johnsman

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I don't think cheating is needed to have the MMF talk, just did a sexless Ian/Loyal Lena path and it still happens. Or is it some kind of bug?
 

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I don't think cheating is needed to have the MMF talk, just did a sexless Ian/Loyal Lena path and it still happens. Or is it some kind of bug?
If it's sexless Ian and Lena path you should by default have cuck = 3, maybe 2, and if cuck variable is greater than 1 in this update Lena will make moves on Wade to tease Ian.
 

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lucadiadis

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Yes, that's correct. If the trinity isn't shut down at this point and Lena hasn't cheated, then the talk about MMF gets skipped. I guess you could consider it as Lena having no real interest in MMF if she has a thing for Holly and only has sex with Ian.
Thought as much. EK keeps on disappointing me every step of the way. My temptation to patreon her has now completely vanished.
 
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Socrambus

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this is not a bug per se, but more of logic issue: a number of decisions regarding relationships in the current update (agreeing to the Holly trinity, forgiving Lena for her cheating, etc) are gated by if gillian_stop which doesn't make sense when the game didn't require it until now where forming relationships, and Ian doesn't even mention Gillian anywhere during these decision points (or elsewhere for this matter) as a factor influencing/blocking his decisions. At the very least it makes this condition very unintuitive.

The logic feels especially weird in scenario where Ian cannot choose to forgive Lena who is still hang up on Axel, even though he is in the same exact situation (being hang up on his own ex) which should, if anything, make it easier to understand/forgive than the opposite of completely blocking it.
I disagree with your logic:
  1. IIRC in all cases of lena_axel_desire being True Lena has fucked Axel except if she just dreamt of sucking his cock and afterwards spent some will points to not act on it (I think that's possible). So in most cases, they are not in the same situation at all with Ian just being hung up on his ex figuratively and Lena being hung up on his ex's cock literally. Maybe there should be some difference on the code to account for Lena just having a dream, although I don't know how Jeremy could know this unless he can read minds and it's doubtful that he can't even read at all.

  2. Let's say that Lena just had a dream and is in the same situation as Ian with Gillian. She still is on the same situation only theoretically, in practice Lena's ex actively wants to fuck her and Ian's ex seems to be totally over him. So very different situation.

  3. And even ignoring my other two points. It might make sense to forgive someone for not being over her ex when you are not over yours, but does it make sense to continue such a relationship where both of you are in that situation?. It's consistent with not being able to enter in a non casual relationship with Holly if you are not over Gillian.

Dang, slutty Holly is so brazen, you gotta love it.

Ian: breaks up with Lena
Lena: cries about it in Holly's/Emma's room
Holly: IT'S A FREE ESTATE *sneaks into Ian's room*

:whistle::coffee:
Hottest scene of the update along with the threesome and punishing cheating Lena.
 

Socrambus

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He is not tlaking about self logic...but script code logic which, can't be disagreed with (unless error in the code as he pointed out). ;)
But that's what he is doing, disagreeing with code logic because he thinks it's not consistent with real life logic or previous character/game logic. Which is totally cool, I just disagree with him.
 
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So in most cases, they are not in the same situation at all with Ian just being hung up on his ex figuratively and Lena being hung up on his ex's cock literally.
I think it depends on how you look at it -- imo the root issue is the same (being hung up on the ex) while the difference between affair and lack thereof comes mostly from not being provided with the same opportunity of the ex hounding the protagonist and wanting to get them back. It's an open question whether Ian would resist Gillian's attempts to get him back should she extend such effort, and at the very least he should be able to empathize with difficulty of such choice, even more so if he's already cheated on Lena with other people.

It might make sense to forgive someone for not being over her ex when you are not over yours, but does it make sense to continue such a relationship where both of you are in that situation?. It's consistent with not being able to enter in a non casual relationship with Holly if you are not over Gillian.
Well, the thing is perhaps this question should be left as actual question/decision for the player and not the game arbitrarily deciding it for them? Not being able to commit to Holly based on feelings for Gillian also feel to me like eleventh hour ass pull for this matter, considering lack of such qualms throughout the game when it was a question of entering non-casual relationship with Lena or other girls who aren't Holly.
 

elysium1988

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Can someone please share the save exactly before the break up or open relationship decision with Lena. I just can't seem to get it on any of my playthroughs. Thanks
 
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ffive

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Can someone please share the break up or open relationship save with Lena. I just can't seem to get it on any of my playthroughs. Thanks
I've posted a "punish Lena scene" save a bit earlier. This is on path where Ian and Lena establish full open relationship.
 

elysium1988

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I've posted a "punish Lena scene" save a bit earlier. This is on path where Ian and Lena establish full open relationship.
I did check that but it's saved just before the 'punish scene'. I mean the save exactly before we can choose to break up or open relationship decision. I want to break up with Lena and get the corrupt Holly scene at the end but I am not getting the option to break up.
 

ffive

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I did check that but it's saved just before the 'punish scene'. I mean the save exactly before we can choose to break up or open relationship decision. I want to break up with Lena and get the corrupt Holly scene at the end but I am not getting the option to break up.
Ahh. Unfortunately, i don't have the slutty Holly in my playthrough so can't help here. My post-breakup Ian gets to sleep all alone while Perry is banging Emma next door. :cautious:
 
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Edvin

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Does anyone know what the conditions are for the latest chapter to tell Lena "I don't mind" and allow her to have sex with Holly while she's dating Ian?

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Socrambus

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I think it depends on how you look at it -- imo the root issue is the same (being hung up on the ex) while the difference between affair and lack thereof comes mostly from not being provided with the same opportunity of the ex hounding the protagonist and wanting to get them back. It's an open question whether Ian would resist Gillian's attempts to get him back should she extend such effort, and at the very least he should be able to empathize with difficulty of such choice, even more so if he's already cheated on Lena with other people.
That's the thing, you just said it's an open question whether Ian would resist Gillian, but it's not an open question in most cases for Lena and that makes it not the exact same situation. But I get your point, I just think it's more a point for a theoretical/hypothetical discussion than for a "real" one. Look, let's say that I have a crush on Scarlett Johansson and my girlfriend has a crush on Henry Cavill. Now, my girlfriend goes out one night with her friends, luckily (for her) encounters Henry Cavill in some pub and fucks him. Do you think I would be more inclined to give her a pass because of my crush on Scarlett Johansson and whether or not I would fuck Scarlett given the ocassion?, hell no :p.

And what you say about Ian possibly cheating on Lena with other people, yes, he and Lena can both be hypocrites. That's already been established multiple times during the game and unfortunately it has been more than established IRL too. People can behave in ways that they would not accept if directed to them, that's life.

Well, the thing is perhaps this question should be left as actual question/decision for the player and not the game arbitrarily deciding it for them? Not being able to commit to Holly based on feelings for Gillian also feel to me like eleventh hour ass pull for this matter, considering lack of such qualms throughout the game when it was a question of entering non-casual relationship with Lena or other girls who aren't Holly.
You have a point on inconsistency but I would argue for the opposite way. Ian should not be able to enter in any serious loving relationship if he's not over his ex. But that's just my opinion, it would probably be best to allow for player's choice to appease different opinions on the matter. But I guess it would also mean more variations than we already have and make writing to account for all of them even more complex than it already is.
 
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