VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.14.1.4 Beta] [Eva Kiss]

[ffive]

Did this always exist or was this recently updated?

Definitely didn't exist always, but it's a neat option to have, and sticking it in the "see the matrix" drug trip is pretty inspired.

 

[fatpussy123]

Definitely didn't exist always, but it's a neat option to have, and sticking it in the "see the matrix" drug trip is pretty inspired.

Also confirms that what Ian sees isn't just a meta joke or a bad trip but a legit higher being, with multiverse powers and all. It was kinda clear already because Ian can see Lena's room even if he's never been there, but now it's double confirmed.

 

[varpep]

I don't even know why you are given a choice in this.

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There is only one valid option and it's the last one.

 

[Turret]

d) She will be disappointed by loser Ian and drops him after a while.

As said, this depends most likely on what a kind of Ian we are playing. If you play him like a loser, then yes, this might happen. But if you play him like a normal upstanding guy it will not happen.
Sometimes I am really amazed and baffled how many players here want to play a loser or douche Ian and the patreon side is even worse!

 

[ffive]

As said, this depends most likely on what a kind of Ian we are playing. If you play him like a loser, then yes, this might happen. But if you play him like a normal upstanding guy it will not happen.
Sometimes I am really amazed and baffled how many players here want to play a loser or douche Ian and the patreon side is even worse!

It kind of depends on what you consider a douche or loser, though. For example, your possibility of c) presumes both Holly and Ian will be happy to "develop Holly's wild side", but it can also mean Holly will want to have sex with other guys, and the player may decide that no, they don't want their Ian to agree to that and that he wants a monogamous relationship the slutty Holly would chafe at.

 

[Turret]

It kind of depends on what you consider a douche or loser, though. For example, your possibility of c) presumes both Holly and Ian will be happy to "develop Holly's wild side", but it can also mean Holly will want to have sex with other guys, and the player may decide that no, they don't want their Ian to agree to that and that he wants a monogamous relationship the slutty Holly would chafe at.

I know what your point here is, but my short, quick list was made with the starting point in mind that Ian and wild Holly are now becoming a couple. It is clear by the way it happens that the main drive for Holly to become a wild, slutty girl was to get more appealing to Ian. Now that she has reached that goal, I doubt her drive towards her slutty side will stay.
Hence my theory A that Holly stops further experimentation on the wild side and reserves her sluttiness for Ian and their bedroom. Having reached a sweet spot both like as it is.
Theory B is that both Ian and wild Holly experiment a bit more, nothing big as said, but still some further development, both being comfortable with the "new" slut level reached. They are a loving dedicated couple.
And Theory C is an Ian who really likes his girlfriends very slutty and open to more things.

You Theory D is not a wrong option per se, but more of a bad end follow up of C where they go too far. And as I wrote in an earlier post, I think we will get some event decisions how far Ian/slutty Holly will go or keep it at this level.

 

[good4451]

Hey guys.Could someone tell me how could I avoid enter Ian cuck route?
I have tried several possibilities,theres still cuck route.Even Ian and Lena Loyal to each other，no open relationship,no threesome,no cheat,no stalkfap,no toy...
I have been I am searching in walkthrough.Is it just because of IAN's chad level?
Then what is the specific meaning or function of chad and posh in the game？
Please,if you friends knew it,just tell me.

 

[Socrambus]

Jokes aside, that means we can do Perry more likeable for Emma, and he's not being whiny and moody cunt 24/7 like he is in all my runs. Don't know how it works, in one of my runs he became more "cool" and danced with Cherry, but in beach house being typical Perry again.

It's bad writing, Perry with Cherry makes no sense at all. Perry is really even worse than Stan, both are socially inept, unattractive and whiny but at least Stan has a decent job, and Stan is supposed to be undergoing a change in his romantic path with Lena (still pretty unrealistic to have any attention from Lena before improving himself, but at least it's something).

 

[ffive]

Hey guys.Could someone tell me how could I avoid enter Ian cuck route?

Don't ask Lena about other guys' dicks.

When she mentions how Ian's dick is one of the best she had, asking "One of the best?" puts you on the cuck route. These options are generally marked with icon.

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

It's bad writing, Perry with Cherry makes no sense at all. Perry is really even worse than Stan, both are socially inept, unattractive and whiny but at least Stan has a decent job, and Stan is supposed to be undergoing a change in his romantic path with Lena (still pretty unrealistic to have any attention from Lena before improving himself, but at least it's something).

As I remember from lore, Perry was more "cool" back days, but he's degradated into this state now, being a disappointment for his family.
I had hope for Perry became normal, but now I can't stand him a bit less than Stan, don't matter how he possibly can change, dude is completely from forced celibacy battalion.

 

[Xupuzulla]

Did this always exist or was this recently updated? I can't find it in the walkthrough, but I accidently discovered you can switch between Good and Bad Jess. I was making a new save and NPC clicking the options in tripping scene because I had clicked them so many times before. Only later did I realize Jess switch from bad to good. At first I thought it was a bug and tried to restart, this is where I found the (new?) option.
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I dont know if i like this,i like you get bad or good Jessica depending of your choices,this feels like a unnecessary cheat code.

 

[amber111]

For me, the cuck Ian ends up having sex with both Lena and Holly, and it is not even addressed in any way that Lena and Ian are having sex for the first time. Is there a bug where there should have been another scene? Or is this just a big inconsistency?

 

[monk_56]

I know what your point here is, but my short, quick list was made with the starting point in mind that Ian and wild Holly are now becoming a couple. It is clear by the way it happens that the main drive for Holly to become a wild, slutty girl was to get more appealing to Ian. Now that she has reached that goal, I doubt her drive towards her slutty side will stay.
Hence my theory A that Holly stops further experimentation on the wild side and reserves her sluttiness for Ian and their bedroom. Having reached a sweet spot both like as it is.
Theory B is that both Ian and wild Holly experiment a bit more, nothing big as said, but still some further development, both being comfortable with the "new" slut level reached. They are a loving dedicated couple.
And Theory C is an Ian who really likes his girlfriends very slutty and open to more things.

You Theory D is not a wrong option per se, but more of a bad end follow up of C where they go too far. And as I wrote in an earlier post, I think we will get some event decisions how far Ian/slutty Holly will go or keep it at this level.

Seems like a reasonable interpretation from what I read in the forum, assuming the gent who said one of the ways it can happen is right off the back of Ian breaking up with Lena b/c she was cheating was accurate.

If your end game for being more-like Lena is to get the guy you want, and suddenly that guy doesn’t want Lena anymore b/c of reasons X, Y, Z. That throws a whole bag full of wrenches into the soundness of the initial logic. A smart character would be swapping to avoiding being like Lena so she could get and keep the guy she wanted. She might still be wild, but it doesn’t seem likely she’d do it behind Ian’s back. Sorry cucks .

 

[ffive]

For me, the cuck Ian ends up having sex with both Lena and Holly, and it is not even addressed in any way that Lena and Ian are having sex for the first time. Is there a bug where there should have been another scene? Or is this just a big inconsistency?

Yes, there's a bug which causes a game to route cuck Ian or Ian who got cheated on into a trinity path for Ian who is in relationship with Holly.

Until it's fixed you can avoid it by aborting the trinity route early, taking the bottom option when Holly mentions to Ian she and Lena have kissed.

 

[manscout]

I dont know if i like this,i like you get bad or good Jessica depending of your choices,this feels like a unnecessary cheat code.

Meh, hiding it in the "buggy" drug trip where the mechanic is more or less spelled out seems fine. It was always an arbitrary change.

It makes early Robert content more accessible since you needed to forfeit that to get good Jess, even though Lena having a casual fling with him early on really shouldn't be a "sets you on a bad path" choice. Also on the flipside it makes a "giga chad Ian gets all the girls for himself" route a bit more viable since you can have a shot at bad Jess without it requiring Lena to sleep with other guys.

I just hope EK doesn't accidentally screw herself up with this change in the future. I don't think there's much in-story connection between Jessica's state and the routes enabled by Lena's early choices (Robert and Mike content), but now she needs to account for a mix of those scenarios that previously didn't exist.

 

[good4451]

Don't ask Lena about other guys' dicks.

When she mentions how Ian's dick is one of the best she had, asking "One of the best?" puts you on the cuck route. These options are generally marked with icon.

I had impression that I chose 'Compliment her',no 'one of the best'.But I still saw the footjob cuck route scene in the last relase 12.3 which Lena talk about a threesome with another guy.
TX still, I plan to try again from an earlier save

 

[ffive]

I had impression that I chose 'Compliment her',no 'one of the best'.But I still saw the footjob cuck route scene in the last relase 12.3 which Lena talk about a threesome with another guy.

The footjob route in 12.3 isn't strictly limited to cuck path. It'll also trigger if you made Lena act dominant in Ch.11 prologue, by selecting option for her to ride Ian's face (and later didn't protest "I don't like it" when she opts to give Ian a footjob)

 

[Socrambus]

As I remember from lore, Perry was more "cool" back days, but he's degradated into this state now, being a disappointment for his family.
I had hope for Perry became normal, but now I can't stand him a bit less than Stan, don't matter how he possibly can change, dude is completely from forced celibacy battalion.

He was younger, thinner and the singer of a rock band. Even still being Perry, that's a significant improvement over his current self. For Perry now stuttering is a blessing in disguise because everytime he opens his mouth without stuttering is to say the most socially inept thing possible. After I played my first run and he told Lena about Ian fucking Cherry/Alison the day before I made sure every other run I played to make Ian fuck Cherry and to tell him that I was going to help with Emma only for Ian inmediately fucking her afterwards.

Also the thing about this parents being dissapointed with him and pressuring him. He doesn't study, he doesn't work, they let him live for free on their property, go on vacation to their summer house and his father even repairs himself his shower when it's not working. Yeah, such monsters, poor Perry having to endure so much pressure.

 

[good4451]

The footjob route in 12.3 isn't strictly limited to cuck path. It'll also trigger if you made Lena act dominant in Ch.11 prologue, by selecting option for her to ride Ian's face (and later didn't protest "I don't like it" when she opts to give Ian a footjob)

I didnt choose "I don't like it" when Lena give Ian a footjob.So that is the reason.
Thank you.

 

[Xupuzulla]

It makes early Robert content more accessible since you needed to forfeit that to get good Jess, even though Lena having a casual fling with him early on really shouldn't be a "sets you on a bad path" choice. Also on the flipside it makes a "giga chad Ian gets all the girls for himself" route a bit more viable since you can have a shot at bad Jess without it requiring Lena to sleep with other guys.

Thats the thing,feels like a way to enable a Ian harem route where Lena is a pure girl....
I dont know i really dont care that much,like you say in the last part of your post through,this opens more paths for Ian,hope EK can handle it.