BlandChili
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Indeed I did, but she's been predicted for so long now that I almost fear Eva has forgotten. With the admission during the beach trip perhaps there will be something soon..
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Real porn/realistic AI isn't allowed on Patreon. Eva knows this, so that's why her tracing is cartoonish.
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Takkatakka
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Pretty sure, that would get you legally in hot water. Yes, I know...a lot of games kinda get away with it, but most of them are smaller HTML games. It would have her stand on shaky legal ground at the least. Also of course the photos wouldn't be homogenized in any way. It is one thing to trace the lines from a photo and put it in an different background and potentially put other faces into it. But just taking a photo with a set background/setting and persons on it, would actually make things more difficult and less immersive in some ways.
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If EK just take irl pornpics, then her two games would have become another visual novel, ones of thousands. The drawn style of gggb and ors is ones of the main distinguishing features that distinguish EK games from other visual novels and not only visual.
It's unlikely that her games would have become so popular without her artstyle. There's nothing special about plot their in her games. imho
I'm not talking about the legal aspect of it, just found the breathless "look what the ai can do" rather silly given it's effectively just undoing what EK has done to original material. (and with a certain dose of uncanny valley thrown in) :v
Well, fairly sure photos of the same actress would be quite homogenized appearance-wise given it's, you know, actually the same person. Backgrounds are another story obv, but they're replaced anyway.
I would also attribute it to her art style. In GGGB it was also traced but more details were kept. Now in ORS the characters skins are much smoother and there is infinitely more attention to lighting. Eva Kiss' current art style is a big positive for the game and imo makes it look better than AI, real porn, or 3D games.
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I 100% agree with you on this. The first thing that drew me to this game was the art style. I'm not really into the 3DCG renders and I don't like the exaggerated proportions that other games employ to their characters. I can understand a stylistic approach but most of the time the exaggerated proportions are done in bad taste. So when I saw this games art, I was instantly intrigued.
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Congratulations, it's shit.
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What she or anyone else is doing is mainly a stop-gap though. It allows you to create, what you want on the cheap, without needing to pay real actors and actresses. I'll see what people will prefer if they can choose between games that are very similar content wise but one looks actually real and the other uses 2D or 3D arts like ORS or the Daz games we have now.
It really isn't as easy as that, since you rarely have just one person on every single render. Maybe you could use some photo of them as the paper doll, but for every scene you would need to use the same actors and actresses for the same character or it would be weird. So you would now need someone that could be "Ian" and someone that could be "Lena" and they not only need to have enough scenes with each other but also with other people that could than be the other characters who also need to have interaction with each other...
You also need to find fitting photos or you have to write your story around the photos that you can get, reducing your freedom for the writing process. With AI you could have the same looking characters do whatever you want in whatever environment you choose without any potential legal repercussions and they would all look like real people in real environments. We'll see if almost every game will at one point go that path or if more "artsy" approaches by people that are actually able to do them will remain.
BlandChili
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New progress update posted. Can't read it all, but the preview line mentions Ian can text with some people in the ch. 12 epilogue now.
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Arata20
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Maybe texts with Cindy where Ian confronts her about the pics with Axel?
BlandChili
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It isn't the Cindy bj pics that were added to the game is it? Those had the phone interface as a frame.
I like the game in general.
The art is quite good. The story is interesting. Perry is annoying as fuck. Honestly, guys like that just cause problems and I would never have them as a roommate and would pretty much avoid them in life. He doesn't know when to keep his mouth shut or maybe he thinks by opening his mouth he can break up your relation and get with Lena. No matter the excuse having people like that around is a no go in life.
Playing the two perspectives is ok. But in truth it causes more problems than it makes good.
Male MC. You know how Lena was hurt. So you can effectively play him two ways a scum bag who will do exactly what the last BF she had did and end up risking the relationship. That or you play the good BF. I guess you could try and make it a fairly open relationship but there isn't a clear set rout on that path because even if you choose the experiment path over the love path you are still hit with the question from her about cheating with Cindy.
While that is going on you also play Lena. Who you can play as the GF or effectively a slut of varying degrees. She can cheat but then she gets upset that the Male MC hooks up with Cindy.
Those two paths can conflict with each other. You can make the Male MC a devoted BF and Lena the Slut from hell GF who cheats every which way or another. You could also make the BF the cheater and Lena the good girl. But doing so these stories start having issues. Yep, I played it more than once checking out as many routes as I could Which means I have a hell of a lot of saves.
To some extent I would rather see the two views played separately.
I think Lena story would work as a great corruption story or fight against corruption. It would be fun to play a story where you have to do your best to find the route to survive without compromising yourself. But that would also allow a full corruption route system to be played as well. It could be done with effectively ZERO grinding.
I think the Male MC story line would be better also separated in some respects.
As for the story line with the two of them together.
A cooperative story line where they work together to survive and figure out to what degree they will and won't compromise obviously that being the players choice would be good.
A Story where the Male tries to corrupt Lena. Is another good option in.
The male mc being the antagonist of the female would be a good storyline
Another would be Lena just tries to get away with whatever she can behind the MC males back without him knowing.
You could also do it so Lena throws it in his face and come up with a reason he can't just leave.
You could also do the last one where she has acted that way for a long time and he turns it around on her.
But as of right now there is two much noise in the story. It detracts from the two of them having a connection.
Which with all the possible ways the story can go creates weak points in the story.
I'm not saying it can't be fixed but it would require writing thousands of scenes and a but load of dialog for those scenes.
It is effectively like you created 8000 stories and wrote about 20% of the required story and expect it to hold together as it is.
The other option is start moving some of the other content into side paths to be explored but in a way they don't directly link into the story or interfere.
The art is quite good. The story is interesting. Perry is annoying as fuck. Honestly, guys like that just cause problems and I would never have them as a roommate and would pretty much avoid them in life. He doesn't know when to keep his mouth shut or maybe he thinks by opening his mouth he can break up your relation and get with Lena. No matter the excuse having people like that around is a no go in life.
Playing the two perspectives is ok. But in truth it causes more problems than it makes good.
Male MC. You know how Lena was hurt. So you can effectively play him two ways a scum bag who will do exactly what the last BF she had did and end up risking the relationship. That or you play the good BF. I guess you could try and make it a fairly open relationship but there isn't a clear set rout on that path because even if you choose the experiment path over the love path you are still hit with the question from her about cheating with Cindy.
While that is going on you also play Lena. Who you can play as the GF or effectively a slut of varying degrees. She can cheat but then she gets upset that the Male MC hooks up with Cindy.
Those two paths can conflict with each other. You can make the Male MC a devoted BF and Lena the Slut from hell GF who cheats every which way or another. You could also make the BF the cheater and Lena the good girl. But doing so these stories start having issues. Yep, I played it more than once checking out as many routes as I could Which means I have a hell of a lot of saves.
To some extent I would rather see the two views played separately.
I think Lena story would work as a great corruption story or fight against corruption. It would be fun to play a story where you have to do your best to find the route to survive without compromising yourself. But that would also allow a full corruption route system to be played as well. It could be done with effectively ZERO grinding.
I think the Male MC story line would be better also separated in some respects.
As for the story line with the two of them together.
A cooperative story line where they work together to survive and figure out to what degree they will and won't compromise obviously that being the players choice would be good.
A Story where the Male tries to corrupt Lena. Is another good option in.
The male mc being the antagonist of the female would be a good storyline
Another would be Lena just tries to get away with whatever she can behind the MC males back without him knowing.
You could also do it so Lena throws it in his face and come up with a reason he can't just leave.
You could also do the last one where she has acted that way for a long time and he turns it around on her.
But as of right now there is two much noise in the story. It detracts from the two of them having a connection.
Which with all the possible ways the story can go creates weak points in the story.
I'm not saying it can't be fixed but it would require writing thousands of scenes and a but load of dialog for those scenes.
It is effectively like you created 8000 stories and wrote about 20% of the required story and expect it to hold together as it is.
The other option is start moving some of the other content into side paths to be explored but in a way they don't directly link into the story or interfere.
Doubt it. I can't see EK justifying Cindy sending those to Ian at this stage in the story on such short notice.
It means while I agreed with you in the first paragraph, the second one you totally lost me.I had to google this meme and i still didn't understand anything.