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Ian's choice of main characters is interesting...
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Lena's the better MC, Ian has the better supporting cast/LIs. While the reactivity to the two protagonists is impressive and ambitious, I personally hope Eva goes back to a solo MC for her next title.
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exactly. Stan is perfect example of realistic loser who instead of change something in his life, he just wake up every morning and crying/complaining how difficult, unfair and bad life is and do nothing about it. I hate this guy, really. No sane woman will touch something like this, maybe desperate ones will, but hey - it's porn logic/fantasy
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Damn it!! Now Xupuzulla will come out and say that Ian self-inserted himself as the protagonist of his novel.Ian's choice of main characters is interesting...
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So true, really.
As I said, I do not like him as a char at all. The only reason why some might follow this road is if Lena needed some more guys to put her on a platform and worship her... might even be a loser like Stan. But I don't think that any kind of loving relationship could ever convince me either.
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There is porn logic (a MC attracts all female just by existing) and there is no logic (Lena being attracted to Stan)exactly. Stan is perfect example of realistic loser who instead of change something in his life, he just wake up every morning and crying/complaining how difficult, unfair and bad life is and do nothing about it. I hate this guy, really. No sane woman will touch something like this, maybe desperate ones will, but hey - it's porn logic/fantasy
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Here's what I found
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While I largely agree that the scenario of Lena liking Stan is fairly unlikely, there are a couple of possibilities...
Lena interacts with Stan and finds that they share a mutual love of photography (albeit at opposite ends of the lens), option one she gets to know Stan and feels sorry for him (Lena can be very open hearted because she has been badly treated in her past) or while shooting, she gets a thrill from commanding and dominating him. Are either of these scenarios strong foundations for a stable relationship? HELL NO! although I could certainly see Stan making a decent sub if Lena goes all dominatrix on him, and heck it could be satisfying/gratifying for both parties.
Having Stan be a pity relationship is potentially extremely destructive, but with guidance (and a whole lot of work) he could be good for Lena, rather than constantly cheated on by muscle packed pretty boys who do nothing but abuse her.
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That would be like Beauty and the Loser vs Beauty and the Beast(s).
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I'm not a Stan fan, but I am an advocate of the devil, so I will disagree here. This scenario you presented, and so far as been the case if Lena threads the needle well enough, can absolutely be the beginning of a good relationship. There can be a strong foundation of empathy between the two characters, and that level of understanding is how friendships and kinship are born.
It will require a good deal of additional writting from EK to properly complete that arc. And more importantly it will take a good deal of players understanding what is going on to not have it devolve into Stan becoming a simp or incel or otherwise creepy dude. So far in my experiences with Stan, respecting his boundaries as a character, and he will respect Lena's. i.e. don't tease Stan during the photoshoot with him, scold him appropriately about his room and him masturbating to Lena, but don't side with Louise on every little attack on him. Do that and there is seemingly a solid friendship forming between the two characters. The key to Stan, and I know this will sound boring, is a lot of neutrality with your choices.
This is a case where I'm disappointed Louise disappears for awhile, but I suppose it's to better setup Stan and Lena growing their relationship, but I want to see the misunderstanding between her and Stan be mended as well. I don't think they necessarily need to start dating, I don't think that would be healthy for either of them no matter the level of writting. However, the two of them burying the hatchet and learning enough about the other to understand the boundaries they have would make for a wholesome arc on that front of Lena's life.
To be exact, in order for Ian to count as "interested in Holly" all you need to do is to tell her she's "very cute" when she asks about it in Ch.3, and when she brings up her writer trip in Ch.6 pick the option
I'd like to tag along. You don't actually need to go on the writer trip with her, just don't immediately shoot down the possibility.I don't disagree. I met some unbelievably attractive women who have massive self-confidence issues and don't even believe (despite endless reassurance) that they are beautiful.
If Stan remains attentive to Lena's needs, and can avoid Jealousy (you catch a whiff of this when Ian talks to him after Lena's concert), and if he can also avoid panicking every time some gorgeous hunk of man (or woman) flesh, gets a bit tactile with Lena, then they could make an excellent couple.
Stan is like an unopened box of Lego, if you are prepared to spend the time, you can build him up into whatever you want (within what pieces are in the box), and that ultimately could be the best fit for Lena. Alas it is more likely that his insecurity will wreck anything they have unless Lena is an endless well of love, patience and understanding, given that she is an MC, you can always choose to be that way, so if (as a player) you desire that outcome, it is fairly likely, unless Eva decided that she wants to torture Stan Stans.
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Sure. With Jack it requieres high lust, so Lena ideally sleeps around in general or at least before she makes it official with Ian.
With Axel, just follow his path while dating Ian.
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Yes, Axel doesn't change his behaviour towards Cindy if he fucks Lena.
Ian is always wary of Axel, even more so if both of them go for Cindy.
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Pretty much average Eva Patrons and f95 people.exactly. Stan is perfect example of realistic loser who instead of change something in his life, he just wake up every morning and crying/complaining how difficult, unfair and bad life is and do nothing about it. I hate this guy, really. No sane woman will touch something like this, maybe desperate ones will, but hey - it's porn logic/fantasy
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BASED.Ian's choice of main characters is interesting...
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