VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.13.3.4] [Eva Kiss]

[ffive]

Is that a pathing glitch, or is that really the intent for the Holly that just fell into two big romances?

Most likely a glitch, yes. It's common for ORS alpha updates to have pathing bugs, that's why they're alpha builds -- intended to weed out such bugs.

 

[Hungover00]

Most likely a glitch, yes. It's common for ORS alpha updates to have pathing bugs, that's why they're alpha builds -- intended to weed out such bugs.

Well, that would be a relief. Throuple is my fav path, so it's the first I return to, but this thread is way too active, and I would like to be a bit surprised by the other paths when I get to them.

 

[Burt]

Wow love this game

 

[noturiah]

I think the "slice of life" bits are what makes the rest of the content stand out in contrast. Just consider how in this update people complain that it's really nothing but a series of disjointed sex scenes lacking anything even resembling a plot between them. You'd think that's exactly what someone playing a porn game could want, yet here we are.

As usual I rely on ffive for the most reasonable take on a new update, and once again he's correct. Something I don't see anyone mentioning (I may have missed it) is that the story itself, especially from Lena's perspective, is very chopped up right now: over chapters 12 & 13 Lena's story of necessity jumped around between 1) going to her parents' because of her mom's illness, then 2) going to the beach, then 3) going out of the country with Seymour [maybe], and now there's this tiny gap of time - fixed time, I should add, because of the scheduling of 2 & 3 above - before Lena 4) going to Billy's with Ivy [maybe]. If your Lena has made choices to do 3 or 4 or both, nothing in this half-week or so is going to have the "slice of life" bits which are crucial to making ORS a cut above other VNs, it's just getting from point A to B and scooping up some quickies along the way.

And about the quickies. Somewhere above LordBradley comments that it seems like this update is continuing a trend growing through chapters 11 and 12 where Ian and Lena's "other options" are coming more to the forefront and the IanxLena story is getting lost. After that someone brought up a comment about "wanting an IanxLena dating simulator" and that got a few replies. I think LordBradley is entirely correct, but I think it's exactly what should be happening with the story right now. Because some people want a fairly idyllic IanxLena playthrough, and those folks either had 1 or 2 short scenes this update, depending on if they went the Trinity route, and that's it. And if that's you, you got what you want and there's not much else to give you.

But if you want LenaxStan (not many of us but there's always Eva's kooky patreons...), or LenaxJeremy, or LenaxTonight'sBoyfriend, you also got some (quick) content you wanted. Same as those who wanted Senior Citizen Sex last update, or even at the beach house with IanxEmma getting serious in a freaky hurry, or the apparently important demographic of 0.05% of players who wanted Louise to flirt with Ian out of nowhere. Over many chapters Eva has laid hints for many sexual options for our two protagonists who are not each other, and sure, some like Cindy and Axel have been well developed, but most of the others haven't, OR are at this point on their own separate lines that have fully split off from the main narrative. For example, I really like what Eva's done with IanxCherry and IanxMinerva, but after the big reveal of Lena's history with Cherry and Axel, the storyline with Cherry has moved on. Same as with Minerva once Ian has changed jobs and offices: whether your Ian is dominating her as a fucktoy or emotionally connecting with her as a sexy but lonely milf, it doesn't matter because Minerva's story has moved on (at least until the book contest).

So I guess those are my two primary takeaways from this update. The nature of the storyline at this exact point in Lena's narrative is really fragmented and we just need to get through it, and the game should be prioritizing non IanxLena content right now so there can be the various sexytimes which have been teased, however rushed they may be. A couple folks have mentioned that Eva's current release process of giving us bites of chapters makes the story feel even more disjointed and that's probably true also. I would guess once we eventually have all of chapter 13 there may be more of a flow to it. It's also not hard for Eva to insert a couple "slice of life" bits in the way she tweaks and polishes chapters after the fact.

Stray observations:
--I'll bet the conversation over on Eva's Discord is just about the exact opposite of ours. "Eva, you're awesome, go Stanny go, I love him so much and he finally scored! Best update ever!" Also it's hilarious to me that during and after the sex, there's nothing from Stan about "offering his sword" and all his weird clingy love talk, he's just completely exhausted.
--No surprise that, with the double whammy of Lena's narrative being disjointed and with Eva's longtime fanbase being built on corruption stories, Holly's out-of-nowhere glory hole scene is the thing almost all of us agree is the highlight. Though I agree 100% with BlandChili that Lena should have been there to see it in person. Anyone else think, when the black cock shows up and Ivy says "you'll need help with that" but we don't see her "help" even though it would be easy for a pro like Ivy to film herself and Holly in a duo tongue-tackle, that Eva is trolling us on F95? First thing I thought of. "Those filthy pirates don't deserve to see Ivy handling dick!"
--How completely like Robert's personality is it to have sex with Lena then suggest a threesome with Holly? Such a stupid tool. (Of course I want to see the threesome.)
--See also: Even after railing Lena a second time, Jeremy tries to convince her to get Ivy to sleep with him.
--I'm so annoyed Eli wasn't among the options for Lena's booty call.
--I'm so pleased there's actual movement - in the dialogue AND game stats! - for LenaxHolly to be in a committed exclusive relationship. Yet another "you may have wanted" moment that sure, was quick, but absolutely needed to happen.

 

[Birdnman993]

Seriously, was it planned for Holly, in love with both Ian and Lena, to after starting off their throuple, go off with Ivy and suck 7+ cocks in a glory hole? Also, at the beginning of the text between Lena and Holly, Lena asks about if Holly is going to see Mark. That doesn't really track either. Is that a pathing glitch, or is that really the intent for the Holly that just fell into two big romances?

I'm not complaining that there is that path for Holly, on other routes, just doesn't make sense for the throuple path, imo. Especially with an Ian and Lena that haven't cheated.

Yep it's really sad, thank goodness I have Holly with Lena exclusively without Ivy taking her away, because if you do the trio in the bathroom the bitch takes Holly to surely suck dick for drugs without inviting Lena, I saw that in another game and with that I said “fuck it, Ivy won't take Holly away from Lena”.

 

[John Doe Jr.]

Damn thought this would be the usual Lena/Ian update but it's just Lena

 

[Xspeedxxx]

Played it 4 years ago, and it had Me have some bad flashbacks about My own life.

when Lena had a call that one of her parents ill again and that game version ended, it hit Me really hard.

Memories of My mother getting ill, need for operation, mistakes of doctors, working on several jobs to pay for hospital, finding out that My "friends" not really friends (when I had really good wage and they asked for money, I gave it without asking to return it, but when I was asking for help they just looked aside), breaking with My girlfriend when she told to stop wasting money on My family, arriving 15 minutes late for work after spending night in hospital and explaining it to boss, hearing that he doesn't gives a fuck if she dies or not and knocking him out with one punch and losing a job.

After it I didn't approached this game, but still rooting for Lena like if she's real person.

Bro I hope everything is better now! We might be a bunch of degenerates but I like to think that we're here for each other.

 

[notstaged]

Something I don't see anyone mentioning (I may have missed it) is that the story itself, especially from Lena's perspective, is very chopped up right now

A number of people voiced their complaints that there's no Lena's POV at the beach event. That plays a major part in disjointing her story. It's not a stretch to regard the twelfth chapter as incomplete without it.

 

[desmosome]

Going along with Seymour disposition high turns into kind of a... I dunno. Seymour doesn't have that corruption aura. He just simping on Lena. I mean, holy shit, it started as findom kind of thing, but turned into some old man looking for true love or some shit. I wonder if there is another path if you play hard to get with Seymour?

I am happy that he is calling for Emma though. That was the most promising arc I can see from him. Corrupting Emma with his money and making her betray her values.

Edit: And frankly, Lena's own monologues during that scene was just too far. If Seymour was the only route, I could understand, but she is thinking that Seymour got her completely "mind, body, and soul" but she still got shit going on with Axel, Jeremy and other dudes. Plus, if you turn him down here, Lena doesn't give a satisfactory reason for why she turned him down. Seymour thinks it might be Ian, and she says that's right, but my Lena is all about cheating on Ian lol. I dunno. There wasn't a good path forward for this scene for me. I think the main problem for my playthrough at least was that there was no middle ground. If you reject him, suddenly, Lena is acting completely different than before and it doesn't quite make sense. If you accept him, that whole scene was kinda cringe and I don't want that dynamic between them lol.

 

[ghost_terror]

I can't wait for Alison to return.

 

[BunnyDevil]

Ngl, this update disappointed me even more than the previous one with Seymour. If there is a one thing that makes sex scenes hot, that is a context. When there was a sex, where and why with that person - that all matters, maybe even more than how good was sex itself.

In this update Lena was like “I wanna have sex now, who should I invite?”. Even the wildest orgy with hottest chicks wouldn’t be tempting with such approach.

 

[zappa2005]

Ngl, this update disappointed me even more than the previous one with Seymour. If there is a one thing that makes sex scenes hot, that is a context. When there was a sex, where and why with that person - that all matters, maybe even more than how good was sex itself.

I initially thought the same now that you mention it, it went too quick - but maybe it is because of the ALPHA status and the rest of the story is filled in later?

Then again, also the text also sounded a bit like a LLM, but maybe thats only me.

 

[NewSeal]

A couple folks have mentioned that Eva's current release process of giving us bites of chapters makes the story feel even more disjointed and that's probably true also. I would guess once we eventually have all of chapter 13 there may be more of a flow to it.

It's what everybody is hoping for, but to address the point you made yourself earlier in your comment, Louise throwing herself at Ian out of nowhere makes zero sense if they didn't have a threesome, and that hasn't yet been explained/fixed and I doubt it will be. And the same goes for some scenes with Minerva, some other side characters and at the beach house in the past few chapters. They either happen out of nowhere or the relationship between one MC and a brand new character is completely rushed. And unlike chapter 13, those chapters are already completed, so when will those scenes and relations be properly explained/fleshed out? When the entire game is completed a few years from now?

 

[sliszt2]

Seriously, was it planned for Holly, in love with both Ian and Lena, to after starting off their throuple, go off with Ivy and suck 7+ cocks in a glory hole?

when lena was watching holly's clips on her phone, she said that"Holly had a strange expression, dazed, with dilated pupils and flushed cheeks, and she looked at the camera while wiping some cum from her lips." "It felt like she was under the influence of something, or at least that's how it seemed to me..."

And consider holly's dark eye circles and her distorted face, apparently she was drugged by Ivy, which, I think, may be why she did that without resistance. She can't even think straight (or worse, she just can't think anymore), at that point.

 

[LaVinotinto]

It's kindda funny to see how Lena's update is a bit disappointing, while our IanCHAD is in for a better pov with his top-voted girls in the polls:

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[Xupuzulla]

Is going to be funny when in the next update even Billy taps that Ivy ass before Ian

 

[The Krogan Dude]

Despite my general dissapointment with the drip feed of updates... I am going to defend EK here... These mini-updates weren't created for general population play. They were created for the patreon fans who 'wanted to be part of the games creation.'

It's totally on EK then. Imagine allowing any degenerate real life Stan to be part of the creative process.

 

[NebulousShooter]

So we have reached rock fucking bottom with EK here haven't we? Just a quick only slut up chapter with no story progression what so ever. Yet another random hookup options for a -COUGH COUGH- BLOATED AS FUCK CAST for Lena, AGAIN. Stan the fat bastard incel gets two scenes with Lena while I'm still 5 years deep in blueballdom waiting for Ian and Ivy to pair up. But given how and utter shit this was??? Yeah, its going to go down hill faster than one night in fucking Bangkok hyped up on ever illict drug possible. There is ZERO chance in salvaging this at this point. Just rename it Good Girl Gone Bad 2: With More Kinks! and call it quits.

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Is going to be funny when in the next update even Billy taps that Ivy ass before Ian

I was not memeing when I said that.

I still think Eva's writing is above most, but even I can't defend the fact that the last 5+ updates have been free falling in quality.
Nothing else to add about the retardation of polling for scenes.

 

[Xupuzulla]

I was not memeing when I said that.
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I still think Eva's writing is above most, but even I can't defend the fact that the last 5+ updates have been free falling in quality.
Nothing else to add about the retardation of polling for scenes.

Ivy and Lena in a photoshoot with Billy and other men,probably a black dude too because we all know patreons love BBC,i honestly cannot wait for all the seething here

 

[Nifferman]

Is going to be funny when in the next update even Billy taps that Ivy ass before Ian

Ian don't need that thot, he has Alison or better Lena(wisdom) and Holly(social)