VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.13.3.4] [Eva Kiss]

[saltynip]

Hmm I think I'll give the beta release a pass and wait for the final version instead. Don't wanna clog up my save slots yet since there might still be some bugs and what not.

My only worry is that I hope I still remember the choices I picked.

Yep, I just might do the same, but I downloaded alpha and beta, want to check the slightly changes among them.
As for the saves, I have created a document just to write down every save's path, with all the important details to keep track of all the choices that will help me go on with it in later gameplay.

 

[jduk]

Playing this one I noticed Billy showing some interest in Holly in the club scene from before, and given what he's like with Jeremy and Alison in this chapter, that definitely implies some future directions. Writing her is going to be lots of work, I would imagine, given she's almost two different people on different paths now. One thing I think could be interesting with Holly is that as she becomes more sexual she could write erotic fiction that other characters could read, and the scenarios could either reflect things other characters have done (maybe raising some suspicions in the reader) or reveal fantasies she or her friends have discussed. Imagine Ian reading her work and realising he's a fantasy for her or an obvious Lena/Cindy-type character in the story

Billy will probably fuck her down the line... Well that's if Holly keeps being influenced by Ivy...

 

[Princess Groundhog]

Billy will probably fuck her down the line... Well that's if Holly keeps being influenced by Ivy...

My hope for this path for Holly is that Ivy keeps being Lena's friend and keeps sharing Holly's photos and videos with her, as they get progressively raunchier, like Jeremy is with Ian. I know that's more of a bro thing to do I guess and in reality a very scummy thing to do without consent, but as part of a cuckolding-type play I think it works for either Ian or Lena.

 

[aifgamer]

My main gripe is still the same. The last few updates have focused a lot on Ian bulding up relationships while Lena was relegated to just corruption routes with two exceptios.

Yeah, 9 chapters in, Ian and Robert are the only guys who have asked Lena out on an actual date. Little-known secret about women -- they like going on dates. Like, a lot.

IMO this has to be an intentional choice, for reasons that may or may not become clear. In GGGB, the MC has male suitors who actually ask her on dates and activities, alongside all the freaky perverts she can get down with. So this omission -- in a female-authored game -- seems purposeful.

I think one way to interpret this is that the story isn't about Lena going down a corruption path. She's already corrupted from her relationship with Axel, and Ian or Holly are her potential paths out of it. EK seems to have cut this, but in the older releases Lena could steal money from the cafe. To me that was a clue that her character was intended to be more ambiguous than initially meets the eye.

The other way you could see it is as a limitation imposed to make the Ian/Lena relationship plausible. Like I said, Robert is the only other character who actually acts like a potential boyfriend. But if you go on a date with him and talk to him, his responses are comically bad. Obviously intentional, to steer you away from a relationship with him. If EK gave him any personality at all, Robert -- or any similar character -- would start to look like a better option than Ian, because he's not trying to bang 5 other girls.

 

[jduk]

Ofc Robert is a bf/ltr choice for Lena... If i remember correct, he actually ask her to be his gf, but Lena didn't really wanted to. Robert is a guy who admires Lena a lot and wants her very much. Yeah he might not be the coolest guy but he is trying. I don't understand why people hate him tbh. He is the average guy out there i think. Has an ok job to make a living, has good overall looks nothing too super but certainly not bad and he is hitting on Lena hard. The 70% of the guys out there are closer to Robert than anyone else. They surely aren't Axel or Seymour types.

 

[BlandChili]

Ofc Robert is a bf/ltr choice for Lena... If i remember correct, he actually ask her to be his gf, but Lena didn't really wanted to. Robert is a guy who admires Lena a lot and wants her very much. Yeah he might not be the coolest guy but he is trying. I don't understand why people hate him tbh. He is the average guy out there i think. Has an ok job to make a living, has good overall looks nothing too super but certainly not bad and he is hitting on Lena hard. The 70% of the guys out there are closer to Robert than anyone else. They surely aren't Axel or Seymour types.

People hate him for various reasons. I dislike him because he tried to use his position as Lena's superior to manipulate her into dating/having sex with him.
Some people dislike him because he's just utterly boring.

 

[Lovely Dani]

Any major changes?

I'm listening.

 

[Lovely Dani]

Yep, I just might do the same, but I downloaded alpha and beta, want to check the slightly changes among them.
As for the saves, I have created a document just to write down every save's path, with all the important details to keep track of all the choices that will help me go on with it in later gameplay.

Pro Player!

 

[manscout]

EK seems to have cut this, but in the older releases Lena could steal money from the cafe. To me that was a clue that her character was intended to be more ambiguous than initially meets the eye.

Still in the game, just can't do it while trying to help save the café.

 

[Reasoon]

While it might be buggy in some playthrough variants, generally the Alison situation is good to handle! I have a playthrough with going for Alison full throttle and no threesome question popped up in Ch.9. In another one, Alison had the first one nighter with Jeremy, but going for Alison after that still led to no threesome question if you are on the Alison love route.

In a playthrough going for the threesome angle, I think it is important how you answer three questions (among other stuff): The one very early in the game, where Jeremy asks if Ian is "exclusive" with Alison, the one if Ian likes/wants the pics Jeremy can send and the one where Jeremy enquires about a possible threesome(which will only pop up depending on choices before). It definitely changes the point gains/losses of the MC answers in Ch.9 to the threesome question, depending on what you did earlier.
There seems to be an impact of how many "Heart" and "Hotness" options you chose as well, but I am not sure what the exact amounts are, but it can blank out love or sex options. And not only with Alison!(And it can even completely stop the threesome question from pop up, even if Alison was with Jeremy several times, if you have lots of Heart actions taken)

Yes, I get what you mean and I also play the full Alison Route so of course all of these three Questions in regards to Jeremy you mentioned I always answer in a way to keep him away from her. Like I said before JeremyxAlison is maybe the only Thing I don't like about this game so I make sure nothing happens!

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[BlandChili]

Yes, I get what you mean and I also play the full Alison Route so of course all of these three Questions in regards to Jeremy you mentioned I always answer in a way to keep him away from her. Like I said before JeremyxAlison is maybe the only Thing I don't like about this game so I make sure nothing happens!

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Isn't this because Ian can commit to Holly in the previous chapter? Does that there still occur with Alison if Ian doesn't commit to a relationship after doing Holly?

 

[RC-1138 Boss]

Yeah, 9 chapters in, Ian and Robert are the only guys who have asked Lena out on an actual date. Little-known secret about women -- they like going on dates. Like, a lot.

IMO this has to be an intentional choice, for reasons that may or may not become clear. In GGGB, the MC has male suitors who actually ask her on dates and activities, alongside all the freaky perverts she can get down with. So this omission -- in a female-authored game -- seems purposeful.

I think one way to interpret this is that the story isn't about Lena going down a corruption path. She's already corrupted from her relationship with Axel, and Ian or Holly are her potential paths out of it. EK seems to have cut this, but in the older releases Lena could steal money from the cafe. To me that was a clue that her character was intended to be more ambiguous than initially meets the eye.

The other way you could see it is as a limitation imposed to make the Ian/Lena relationship plausible. Like I said, Robert is the only other character who actually acts like a potential boyfriend. But if you go on a date with him and talk to him, his responses are comically bad. Obviously intentional, to steer you away from a relationship with him. If EK gave him any personality at all, Robert -- or any similar character -- would start to look like a better option than Ian, because he's not trying to bang 5 other girls.

Robert used to be a even bigger creep before his rework. I do agree that it is a choice that the author started Lena via her corruption routes. Now the bigger question (for me) is if in the future EvaKiss will give the same amount of time to develop some potential love interest routes for Lena as she has been giving to Ian riight now.

 

[Reasoon]

Isn't this because Ian can commit to Holly in the previous chapter? Does that there still occur with Alison if Ian doesn't commit to a relationship after doing Holly?

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[What'sNew]

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Have you tried telling Jeremy to stay away from Alison early in the game? I have not tried this. Does Jeremy still bring up the threesome?

edit: ok I just read your comments above. Apparently you dissuaded Jeremy from fking Alison at every opportunity possible including telling him "Alison is mine".

 

[Reaurt]

Took a quick look at the posted beta by extracting the images with Unren. Besides edits on some of the pics (Lena x Seymour), there aren't any new scenes, as far as I can tell.

 

[What'sNew]

Took a quick look at the posted beta by extracting the images with Unren. Besides edits on some of the pics (Lena x Seymour), there aren't any new scenes, as far as I can tell.

Interesting. Maybe this will be the first update where no new scenes will be added to the beta/final version.

 

[oopsoops]

But "Mark" was showed or is only a name for now ?

Mark was only mentioned by Eva, hasn't shown his face yet.

 

[BlandChili]

An extra option was added to the Seymour scene in the end of the chapter.

 

[CoalPhelps]

Ofc Robert is a bf/ltr choice for Lena... If i remember correct, he actually ask her to be his gf, but Lena didn't really wanted to. Robert is a guy who admires Lena a lot and wants her very much. Yeah he might not be the coolest guy but he is trying. I don't understand why people hate him tbh. He is the average guy out there i think. Has an ok job to make a living, has good overall looks nothing too super but certainly not bad and he is hitting on Lena hard. The 70% of the guys out there are closer to Robert than anyone else. They surely aren't Axel or Seymour types.

He is not just an ordinary guy, he is also a hedonist with no ambitions. Even Perry wants something more and has his hobbies, passions, talents, although he does nothing for this. He is incredibly boring and in many ways unpleasant and tries to use the difficult situation and his position to persuade Lena to finally go somewhere and sleep with him. This is one of the biggest dick moves and negates all of his admiring.

 

[JoJoPool]

Interesting. Maybe this will be the first update where no new scenes will be added to the beta/final version.

If she doesn't add to the MikexLena/RobertxLena scenes in the final i will be disappointed.
They were rushed and lacking (in my opinion), they even share the same art.