VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.13.2 Beta] [Eva Kiss]

[Doppelgang]

There's a tendency among fans of the game to be very generous in reasoning away disjointed writing. The plot turns of a selfish, inconsistent or irrational Lena are totally fine. But they have to be justified smoothly enough in the text to not set off other readers' bullshit meters. I think the back-and-forth disagreements here are merely evidence the text wasn't handled smoothly enough in those situations, as these were also, of course, lock-outs and plot-turns of convenience based on development time limitations along with certain later plot-points and pairings Eva wanted to push.

Writing smoothly for such a magnitude of multi-paths, especially within such limitations, is assuredly tough though.

I think the main issue with the relationship talk when Lena’s slept with Jeremy, as well as Lena’s reaction to Ian+Holly, is that one of the protagonist sees a previous event in a different light than the player. Which is an issue when you’re having two protagonists and they’re interacting, because you can’t use other characters’ reasoning to apply limitations to our choices.

I agree that the writing in those scenes is a bit disjointed, but if Lena was an NPC, I think most would have accepted her reasoning without thinking that much about it. (Maybe that point is more valid with her reaction to Ian+Holly, as her reaction during the relationship talk depends on choices we’ve made ourselves.)

Having said that, Eva made the choice to have two protagonists with all the challenges it involves, and when you’re in the middle of the game, it’s the gaming experience and not the intricate writing challenges you care about. I’m not that bothered about those scenes myself, as I think they’re among a relatively small amount of flaws up until this point, but I can surely understand why it bugs some players.

 

[JoeSte91]

It's a Patreon funded porn game not Finnegans Wake, I'm not looking for perfect writing.

And now, to announce my next game, Finnegan's Wank

 

[Maevos]

I noticed a grey haired older lady (the one with the jacket draped over her shoulders) in the tier lists that you guys posted. Who is she? I don't remember ever encountering her in my playthrough of the game.

 

[fatpussy123]

I noticed a grey haired older lady (the one with the jacket draped over her shoulders) in the tier lists that you guys posted. Who is she? I don't remember ever encountering her in my playthrough of the game.

Agnes, a rich old socialite that makes minimal appearances in the Seymour route. Notably when Lena and Axel posed for Seymour.

 

[Maevos]

Agnes, a rich old socialite that makes minimal appearances in the Seymour route. Notably when Lena and Axel posed for Seymour.

Ah, that makes sense. I avoid the old bastard so that's why I've never met her. Would have loved to get me some Agnes though.

Thanks for the info buddy.

 

[Gicoo]

Ah, that makes sense. I avoid the old bastard so that's why I've never met her. Would have loved to get me some Agnes though.

Thanks for the info buddy.

Agnes depens more so on Axels route than Seymours. If you avoid Seymour, Lena has a shoot with Danny and they meet Agnes and Axel to trigger the temptation scene with the latter.

 

[SerHawkes]

If and when Ian and/or Lena need a new job down the line, best to ask this question...

Spoiler: Perfectly Reasonable Question

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[JoeSte91]

I need to get off the internet. I read that and all I saw was 'blow job interview'.

 

[Gold613]

I think Eva just had something different in mind for Lena, Jeremy and Ian which makes the relationship between her and Ian get in the way. Maybe even saying "it's getting in the way" isn't a correct thing to say; more like it's just not the direction Eva wants to take.

I am all for it if there are different plans for one of the 2 main characters, however 1 is getting a constant short end of the stick when it involves the both of them, in my personal opinion. So for example what I said about the Holly situation for the both of em. The Jeremy situation is a bit different but however what I am trying to say in this respect is that the Jeremy thing makes not so much sense, but if she had other plans then by all means, however in this case make it so that Ian get's his fair share, for example Ivy and Louise, make em both available for him.

I don't think it is all that weird -- it's common for people to treat people with different degree of respect, and to care about some more than others, depending on personal preferences. Lena is on record as a big fan of Holly even before they meet and get to know each other. In contrast she doesn't hold that high opinion of Louise (not surprising when you can see every day the way Louise can act) and even less about Mike's girlfriend she doesn't know anything about (other than said gf has allegedly smaller bust) So, caring about Holly's feelings more than she cares about Louise's or Mike's girlfriend's, it's easy enough to explain.

A lot of this is true, When it involves people you know nothing about or having no attachment too, there is no loyalty or care. However if it is someone you know or are invested in then emotions do act and enter the stage.

 

[| Vee |]

I am just waiting for 3 Scenes to happen
1) Ian fucking Axel's sister (if he has any)
2) Give viagra to Stan and tie him to a chair then fuck in front of him.
3) Ian dominating Ivy's scene (I doubt if Ivy would let him do that, but from the gym scene it might just happen)

A guy can dream

 

[Ceesko]

The last entry Eva claimed only one scene left to render and some "art touching" before compiling the chapter into Alpha build. That 3 weeks ago. Almost a month to finish a single scene?

 

[Asmodean2]

Her last Update was 4 days ago. She finished writing and is now playtesting and finishing the art.
So by the looks an end of June release is realistic.

 

[bitofaperv]

I am just waiting for 3 Scenes to happen
1) Ian fucking Axel's sister (if he has any)

A guy can dream

NGL, I hate Axel. I hate the type he represents.

The wish fulfillment side of me would fucking love this option. The unstable fuck who can't deal with not getting something he wants, and never takes no for an answer... This is the kind of character that needs to have his legs kicked out from under him. Hopefully it will happen by Lena allowing Ian to openly antagonise Axel with their relationship at a later stage.

Failing that, fucking his hypothetical sister and sending him the pictures would be extremely satisfying.

It's definitely an "average joe" empowerment fantasy though, and the game has a really strong feminine touch (for the better, in my opinion), so I won't hold my breath for anything like this to happen.

 

[Flowing Thought]

I hope there is a chance for Lena to get back with Axel. Her being submissive to him is really hot. Then post it to Stalkfap.

 

[Jacey.ci]

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Seems about right

 

[jaylop09]

I hope there is a chance for Lena to get back with Axel. Her being submissive to him is really hot. Then post it to Stalkfap.

As much as I also hate Axel (I even think he´s not attractive, he looks way too cartoonish), his scene with Lena is probably the hottest one so far

 

[LongoMcFap]

How about a rope?

A strap-on in his ass?

Lena and Louise can build their own Eiffel tower.

A bullet in the head from a cop who stopped him from committing a mass shooting?

Oh my poor, poor duderinos, our man, the Stan, Stan the man, Stan the Stallion will fuck the hottest chick in the game, which is Lena, to countless multiple orgasms and you can't do anything about this, except shedding gallons of tears! And spilling body fluids is what the winner team will do too ...

 

[DeemLeem12]

It's a Patreon funded porn game not Finnegans Wake, I'm not looking for perfect writing.

Finnegan's wake isn't that good. It tries so hard but its execution just doesn't hit the mark.

 

[bitofaperv]

I hope there is a chance for Lena to get back with Axel. Her being submissive to him is really hot. Then post it to Stalkfap.

I'd rather she was just allowed to be more submissive to Ian or Mike. I really don't like the Axel submission, because there's an element of manipulation and emotional abuse to it all.

Ian gets dom points for two potential actions in sex scenes with Lena, so hopefully that shows this is going to be a thing.

But yeah, Lena and Axel's dom scene is the hottest in the game so far by a fucking mile.

 

[ArcherHades46]

Be patient, most likely we are expecting the alpha version this week, if Eva's colorists are not surprised by our expectation. Good luck to everyone and keep your hands on the table until there is an update)