VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.13.3.4] [Eva Kiss]

[BlandChili]

I did a mostly-wholesome dommy Lena-Holly path for one of my main routes, where I gave in and had the shower threesome but no other Ivy corruption. Afterwards Holly was shaken but seemed understanding, and Lena felt kinda bad about it. Overall, I don't think it should end the wholesome romance path, but I could be wrong.

I suppose we'll see PG. I just found the dialogue difference noteworthy.

Curiously if you do have Lena and Ivy have sex after the Axel thing, but don't do the shower scene, Holly seems to still be aware that Lena and Ivy fooled around still, as she will mention being not as daring as Ivy after their final sex scene. This is something she doesn't bring up after that scene on playthroughs where no Lena/Ivy stuff happened at all.
I don't recall that detail being brought up earlier on in that playthrough so I am unsure if it's an oversight or if we're meant to assume Ivy just told her.

 

[TheRealJohnCena69]

I admire your passion for Ivy. She is a popular character and here is the 'but', some of us mere mortals can indeed resist nasty manipulative people like Ivy. I'm being polite, I have other names for her. I wouldn't want to be in the same room as someone like her in RL. No time for people like her at all. Lena needs better 'friends,' hence why I like Ian for her, much better friend circle for Lena. Ivy's character is fantastic as a story device though.

Bro why u acting like this real life fr besides im not talking about her personality im talking about her looks. I meant hitting that bih i never implied putting a ring on that hoe lmao is not that deep homie

 

[SerHawkes]

Read through what you wrote. If that's not manipulative behavior, what is? Normal people don't get involved in other people's relationships and try to get them to cheat, even if they don't like the person.

Man, you guys only see shit in black and white. There are no concrete evidence that she is an evil mastermind orchestrating all the drama (yet, but there are some hints/red herrings), but she is obviously a superficial onlyfans thot who is not even close to an "ideal woman you'd bring home to meet your parents." That's fine. Every NPC has character flaws, and she is no exception.

It seems likely that Ivy will be a cheating target for Ian, so let's see what kinda person she is when that happens.

Exactly. Theres no true evidence she masterminding everything. Suggesting, perhaps, holding certain cards to the chest for leverage, naturally.

But we will likely have to see how Eva pulls it all together, whether Ian is a cheating target or not, remains to be seen.

 

[| Vee |]

Manipulating level goes like this:
Seymour>Axel>Ivy/Jeremy/>Lena>others

 

[| Vee |]

What do you guys think about Agnes and Seymour, where the power dynamic leans between those two?

 

[BlandChili]

What do you guys think about Agnes and Seymour, where the power dynamic leans between those two?

Seymour acts very differently to Lena's refusal to work with Axel depending on if Agnes if present or not.

Dunno if Agnes has actual tangible power over him in some form, but it's pretty clear she's his peer given that he acts like a little bitch to impress her.

 

[| Vee |]

Seymour acts very differently to Lena's refusal to work with Axel depending on if Agnes if present or not.

Dunno if Agnes has actual tangible power over him in some form, but it's pretty clear she's his peer given that he acts like a little bitch to impress her.

Is there a path where Agnes is not present?

 

[SerHawkes]

Is there a path where Agnes is not present?

If you don't do the modelling gigs.

 

[BlandChili]

Is there a path where Agnes is not present?

Yeah, I don't know the specific requirements between Seymour and Axel affinity, but if you are somewhat harsh to Axel you get the option to choose not to work with him and Agnes never turns up. If your affinity with Axel is too high, meaning you met him with more positive responses, the option to refuse Axel doesn't come up until Agnes is already in the room and at that point Seymour is more severe with Lena's refusal, seemingly to align himself with Agnes.

 

[| Vee |]

Yeah, I don't know the specific requirements between Seymour and Axel affinity, but if you are somewhat harsh to Axel you get the option to choose not to work with him and Agnes never turns up. If your affinity with Axel is too high, meaning you met him with more positive responses, the option to refuse Axel doesn't come up until Agnes is already in the room and at that point Seymour is more severe with Lena if she refuses working with Axel to align himself with Agnes.

AH yes i remember now.

 

[Defenestrator.for.traitor]

Manipulating level goes like this:
Seymour>Axel>Ivy/Jeremy/>Lena>others

I think you should put manhoe Ian to top of the list. Dude was a serial manipulator if you choose to be. Ian can be a real bastard. Hell, you can force Perry aka your bestfriend who opens his house to you, first to Emma then fuck her and then top of it cuck him on the phone; then let him talk to Cherry then fuck her too. While doing these, you can manipulate Cindy to breakup/cheat your friend. Basically blackmail your boss to have an affair with you. Dating both Cherry and Lena up to a point, btw that was the reason Lena broke up with Axel. Oh and also, while doing all of these you can lead Holly and can interrupt her whenever she is around you talking with someone else. Did I mention turning Alison to a slut 'cause she wants to have something with Ian.

 

[jduk]

I dont agree with this there are many poeple that love innocent holly corruption and would like to
make little holly into a gillian with ivys help

and this scenes with mark,robert ,bouncer and lena and ivy will take her probably on partys with drugs in the future will happen ANYWAY eva will already draw and write this scenes

so it should not be this hard for eva to figure out to make it work because its not much work because this SCENES WILL EXIST ANYWAY

and you can engourage holly as slutty/mean lena and ivy so eva should firgue something out

so i really dont understand the no cheating police in a CORRUPTION GAME on cheracters like cindy,alison and holly because they all will have corruption ROUTES ANYWAY

this scens will exist thats my whole point

I totally agree, i want Holly to cheat on good Ian, because Ivy and Lena convince her it's cool to do so. It was super hot seeing Mark manhandling her on all fours and feeding her cumloads while having it on tape. Poor Ian is about to get cucked hard from Holly,now it's Robert's turn to use her holes. All that of course should be player's choice, choosing if they want Lena to push Holly down the slut path. If players are cool with Ntr in HollyxIan they should have the choice to do it, also if they don't like that, they should have the choice to avoid it from happening. One path with poor skills and nerdy Ian falls for nerdy innocent Holly for a serious monogamous relationship should have both outcomes available. Cuck Ian and Pure Holly too. Open relationship/fwb IanxHolly would benefit too, from slutty Holly routes, opening up opportunities for swinging and MFM threesomes, MFF threesomes, DPs etc. Let's hope Eva delivers.

 

[jduk]

There's a bug where Holly can hook up with Mark while dating Ian. There's also Holly kissing Lena while dating Ian, that ones not a bug.

I hope it's not a bug, we want cheating Holly to fuck around behind Ian's knowledge.

 

[SerHawkes]

Did I mention turning Alison to a slut 'cause she wants to have something with Ian.

No no no... She was already a slut that is already OBSESSED with him. There is a difference.

 

[Grumpy Old Aussie]

Bro why u acting like this real life fr besides im not talking about her personality im talking about her looks. I meant hitting that bih i never implied putting a ring on that hoe lmao is not that deep homie

LMAO touche you are right I guess I was a bit triggered. I have encountered many Ivy types over the years male and female, I just can't stand them. Too old for that shit.

 

[| Vee |]

I think you should put manhoe Ian to top of the list. Dude was a serial manipulator if you choose to be. Ian can be a real bastard. Hell, you can force Perry aka your bestfriend who opens his house to you, first to Emma then fuck her and then top of it cuck him on the phone; then let him talk to Cherry then fuck her too. While doing these, you can manipulate Cindy to breakup/cheat your friend. Basically blackmail your boss to have an affair with you. Dating both Cherry and Lena up to a point, btw that was the reason Lena broke up with Axel. Oh and also, while doing all of these you can lead Holly and can interrupt her whenever she is around you talking with someone else. Did I mention turning Alison to a slut 'cause she wants to have something with Ian.

His level of manipulating is just basic shit and not refined enough (he relies on persuasion and is new to this, not enough experience just goes with the flow). The way manipulation works is that till the end the person being manipulated is either guilty, confused or didn't understand at all or can't do shit. A great manipulator is one when others can't do shit to him even if someone know they are being manipulated. Ian's playing of manipulation is rough and cannot keep his shit hidden.

Axel is a beast when it comes to manipulation (as we see his interactions he IS capable of doing much more.) and Seymour is the master that can easily control that beast (much refined than others).
Ivy is dropping hints and is playing according to what hand is dealt to her and she plays it well. While Jeremy can't control shit but relies on Projection and Generalizations.

 

[camube]

Yes, provided Louise and Lena had threesome with Jeremy before. (a threesome with Mike can also be arranged with the same condition)

Is there a Louise threesome scene when IanxLena is in committed relationship?

What's the requirement for that?
Is it for Louise to break up with Jeremy?

 

[DeemLeem12]

It'll be fire if Eva Kiss decides to troll players and not have a single Ian-Ivy sex scene. Maybe reveal that Ivy is a lesbian all along and she just tolerates men to get what she wants. Maybe Ian can get one pity fuck at the end if he gets cucked by everyone else. It's like a cherry on top of a shit dessert.

 

[SerHawkes]

It'll be fire if Eva Kiss decides to troll players and not have a single Ian-Ivy sex scene. Maybe reveal that Ivy is a lesbian all along and she just tolerates men to get what she wants. Maybe Ian can get one pity fuck at the end if he gets cucked by everyone else. It's like a cherry on top of a shit dessert.

Well considering how shes done a fine fucking job so far...

Also, it ain't cucking if your not involved with anyone.

 

[DeemLeem12]

I will riot if Ian gets to fuck Ivy before Marcel gives Holly a gaping asshole.