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Chapter 11 BETA is out, and Cameo spots open
Chapter 11 Beta is finally out! Thanks to everyone who helped us spot and report the bugs. All major issues should be ironed out now, but some small fixes and implementations will be added in the Full release. I also want to expand a couple scenes slightly, but the chapter is already solid and ready to be played.
This chapter features +100 new, full color illustrations, with many variations and some animations, making up a total of 450 new images. Also, some new sprites and outfits for the cast, as well as a ton of new music: +10 new tracks that add or replace music for the soundtrack of the game, making it more varied. There's also more new features and improvements, check them out !



Also, there's a couple spots open for cameo appearance in the epilogue of Chapter 11 that will be released shortly. Ideally, I'm looking for one male and one female character cameo, but if you're interested contact me via PM (better through Discord). Join the cast of patrons that have their likeness immortalized in-game!
So Gus is just a cameo? I thought he would be in Holly route.
 

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It just that when people take emotionally massive hit they tend to indirectly approach those things. Some people I watched around show this exact behavior referring to the person the one their partner cheated with as "that one" etc. Even Gillian mention him as Her boyfriend and not mentions his name(check how she talks about him).
I know some people will do that, but this is generally a conscious thing. That's why i mentioned the dream sequence -- it's where you'd expect the artificial self-restraints to no longer apply, and if Ian knew the name of the guy, then Gillian in his dream could be expected to say it at least once.

Actual Gillian (not the one in Ian's dream) only mentions her boyfriend once in their entire conversation. And yes, she refers to him as "my boyfriend" but this makes more sense if Ian doesn't know the name of the guy (perhaps because he doesn't want to know) -- because in such case mentioning him by name could just lead to some sort of "eh, who?" or similar unnecessary slowdown.

So... yeah. I'd say both options are possible, but the one where Ian simply doesn't know the guy's identity is simpler, and also explains complete lack of reaction if the guy in question actually is Mike. So personally, i'll roll with it for now.
 

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I know some people will do that, but this is generally a conscious thing. That's why i mentioned the dream sequence -- it's where you'd expect the artificial self-restraints to no longer apply, and if Ian knew the name of the guy, then Gillian in his dream could be expected to say it at least once.

Actual Gillian (not the one in Ian's dream) only mentions her boyfriend once in their entire conversation. And yes, she refers to him as "my boyfriend" but this makes more sense if Ian doesn't know the name of the guy (perhaps because he doesn't want to know) -- because in such case mentioning him by name could just lead to some sort of "eh, who?" or similar unnecessary slowdown.

So... yeah. I'd say both options are possible, but the one where Ian simply doesn't know the guy's identity is simpler, and also explains complete lack of reaction if the guy in question actually is Mike. So personally, i'll roll with it for now.
I agree then it also raise the question who told Ian if Ian didn't catch them or some other scenario. How does Ian know she cheated did she confessed in guilt(could be but highly obnoxious) or someone told Ian.
 

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How does Ian know she cheated did she confessed in guilt(could be but highly obnoxious) or someone told Ian.
If i understand it right, Gillian broke up with Ian telling him that she's been seeing someone else behind his back and wants to be with that new guy. It was after spending some time apart, and while Ian was expecting her to move to Baluart and continue living with him.

Whether her affair started after Ian left for Baluart or was going on earlier, it's currently unclear.
 

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If i understand it right, Gillian broke up with Ian telling him that she's been seeing someone else behind his back and wants to be with that new guy. It was after spending some time apart, and while Ian was expecting her to move to Baluart and continue living with him.
Is that mentioned somewhere?:confused:
 

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Is that mentioned somewhere?:confused:
It's just pieced together from various dialogue bits in the game and Ian's dreams. E.g. in the latest chapter, if Ian deleted Gillian's pictures you have him tell her in his dream:
Python:
        i "I never wanted this. You did this... You left."
The thing about them being separate, i can't remember if it's also mentioned directly, but it's included in the dream in Ch.7:
Python:
    i "Hey, there you are."
    g "You made it."
    i "Was there any doubt?"
    g "I don't know... We haven't seen each other in a while."
    i "Yeah... You should come to Baluart for a visit more often!"
    i "In fact, you'll move back here as soon as you find a job in the city, right?"
 

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It's just pieced together from various dialogue bits in the game and Ian's dreams. E.g. in the latest chapter, if Ian deleted Gillian's pictures you have him tell her in his dream:
Python:
        i "I never wanted this. You did this... You left."
The thing about them being separate, i can't remember if it's also mentioned directly, but it's included in the dream in Ch.7:
Python:
    i "Hey, there you are."
    g "You made it."
    i "Was there any doubt?"
    g "I don't know... We haven't seen each other in a while."
    i "Yeah... You should come to Baluart for a visit more often!"
    i "In fact, you'll move back here as soon as you find a job in the city, right?"
Double face palm ME! How the hell did i forgot this.

 
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If i understand it right, Gillian broke up with Ian telling him that she's been seeing someone else behind his back and wants to be with that new guy. It was after spending some time apart, and while Ian was expecting her to move to Baluart and continue living with him.

Whether her affair started after Ian left for Baluart or was going on earlier, it's currently unclear.
Am I mistaken or Gillian did not want to live Baluart or something like that?
 

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I imagine Clark is shown with Holly in the epilogue together when she isn't paired up with anyone. They don't even need any sex scenes, he's just there to point out that someone would sooner or later make the move on Holly even if Ian and Lena ignore her. It was also done in the GGGB epilogue.
 

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Am I mistaken or Gillian did not want to live Baluart or something like that?
I'd guess she moved back to her hometown after finishing studies at Baluart university with rest of the gang, due to lack of money or some similar concerns. She was supposed to get back after she'd find a job at Baluart, but then either cheating happened, or it was already happening before but got serious to the point she decided she'd rather be with her new guy?
 
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I'd guess she moved back to her hometown after finishing studies at Baluart university with rest of the gang, due to lack of money or some similar concerns. She was supposed to get back after she'd find a job at Baluart, but then either cheating happened, or it was already happening before but got serious to the point she decided she'd rather be with her new guy?
I remember, maybe mistakenly, she did not want to move in Baluart and they had some sort of disagreement because of it. Looks like I need to check for it.
 

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I remember, maybe mistakenly, she did not want to move in Baluart and they had some sort of disagreement because of it. Looks like I need to check for it.
Perhaps it's the other part of the Ch.7 dream mentioned upthread, that you're remembering?
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