VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.13.2 Beta] [Eva Kiss]

[ffive]

It's context. When we, the players, first "meet" Allison it's pretty clear SHE likes IAN and wants a relationship with him. Ian isn't pursuing her at all so the pace of the relationship (at least at the start) is kind of on her. The problem I have with Allison (if I'm doing a playthrough where I don't want Ian to be cheated on) is that as soon as Ian doesn't give her attention, she immediately goes and fucks someone else. That isn't love. That's trifflin.

I'm getting impression that what people get upset with Alison over is that, if they don't return Alison's affections they expect her to sit in a corner sobbing all alone until they maybe change their mind after they fuck everyone else available to them. But instead she just shrugs it off and goes to have fun with a guy who actually bothers to hit on her and how dares she.

In other words, that it's fine if they "fuck other people" before Alison, but if it's Alison who fucks some other guy before Ian gets to stick it in? Perish the thought and cue complaints about cheating, cucking and whathaveyou.

Just because Alison has feelings for Ian doesn't mean she's not allowed to have some casual sex when she's single and the guy she has crush on turns her down. It doesn't mean she doesn't love him. Merely that she doesn't obsess over it as much as some people claim she does.

 

[Virux]

Is there Beta version for Mac?

 

[nevt2050ptr]

I'm getting impression that what people get upset with Alison over is that, if they don't return Alison's affections they expect her to sit in a corner sobbing all alone until they maybe change their mind after they fuck everyone else available to them. But instead she just shrugs it off and goes to have fun with a guy who actually bothers to hit on her and how dares she.

In other words, that it's fine if they "fuck other people" before Alison, but if it's Alison who fucks some other guy before Ian gets to stick it in? Perish the thought and cue complaints about cheating, cucking and whathaveyou.

Just because Alison has feelings for Ian doesn't mean she's not allowed to have some casual sex when she's single and the guy she has crush on turns her down. It doesn't mean she doesn't love him. Merely that she doesn't obsess over it as much as some people claim she does.

Women having casual sex when they are single. What is this, some sc-fi setting ?

 

[KarateChop166]

I'm getting impression that what people get upset with Alison over is that, if they don't return Alison's affections they expect her to sit in a corner sobbing all alone until they maybe change their mind after they fuck everyone else available to them. But instead she just shrugs it off and goes to have fun with a guy who actually bothers to hit on her and how dares she.

In other words, that it's fine if they "fuck other people" before Alison, but if it's Alison who fucks some other guy before Ian gets to stick it in? Perish the thought and cue complaints about cheating, cucking and whathaveyou.

Just because Alison has feelings for Ian doesn't mean she's not allowed to have some casual sex when she's single and the guy she has crush on turns her down. It doesn't mean she doesn't love him. Merely that she doesn't obsess over it as much as some people claim she does.

I get what you're saying, and I realize this is a porn game and it's not at all realistic, however I get enjoyment out of these games by trying to make choices I feel I would make in real life given the context of the situation (at least on my first playthrough).

Allison is textbook "If you don't give me what I want I'll find it somewhere else" toxicity, which is far more realistic and common than most of the other tropes in this game. It's interesting to note that you only really see this if you fail (even once) to give her attention. If you cancel all your previous plans and give her the attention she demands, it appears she's really into Ian and they are star-crossed lovers. The minute you do something else, she breaks open her side-dick (your best friend, btw) and you get graced with photos of her tiddy-fucking Jeremy. Like...let's be real here, I know y'all weren't "technically" dating, but there's a certain amount of expectation when you're in a sexual relationship with someone who has confessed they have always had a crush on you. Being denied a date and then fucking that person's best friend less than 24 hours later is absolute ho behavior. I don't hate Allison, but she is definately for the streets. LOL

 

[SerHawkes]

I'm getting impression that what people get upset with Alison over is that, if they don't return Alison's affections they expect her to sit in a corner sobbing all alone until they maybe change their mind after they fuck everyone else available to them. But instead she just shrugs it off and goes to have fun with a guy who actually bothers to hit on her and how dares she.

In other words, that it's fine if they "fuck other people" before Alison, but if it's Alison who fucks some other guy before Ian gets to stick it in? Perish the thought and cue complaints about cheating, cucking and whathaveyou.

Just because Alison has feelings for Ian doesn't mean she's not allowed to have some casual sex when she's single and the guy she has crush on turns her down. It doesn't mean she doesn't love him. Merely that she doesn't obsess over it as much as some people claim she does.

Ian:Alison? I only see her as a friend.
-Alison sleeps with Jeremy-
Alison: I'm holding out hope for the 'One'.
Ian: Still see you as a friend.
-Alison sleeps with Jeremy, Billy-
Alison: Ian, why don't you come over and talk about Gillian?
Ian: Sure.
-Goes to her place, intending to talk about Gillian-
Alison: FUCK ME NOAW IAN!
Ian: What part of friends do you not underfuckingstand?

Hmmm... I wonder why people aren't fans of her... What could possibly be the reasoning there... Must be a great mystery indeed.

 

[ffive]

Ian:Alison? I only see her as a friend.
-Alison sleeps with Jeremy-
Alison: I'm holding out hope for the 'One'.
Ian: Still see you as a friend.
-Alison sleeps with Jeremy, Billy-
Alison: Ian, why don't you come over and talk about Gillian?
Ian: Sure.
-Goes to her place, intending to talk about Gillian-
Alison: FUCK ME NOAW IAN!
Ian: What part of friends do you not underfuckingstand?

Hmmm... I wonder why people aren't fans of her... What could possibly be the reasoning there... Must be a great mystery indeed.

Considering you've decided to devote large part of that breakdown to the fact "Alison sleeps with Jeremy" it seems to basically confirm my impression you've quoted? I.e. that it plays a significant role in that dislike. Otherwise, if it was just about Alison hitting on MC there would be zero reason to bring that aspect up.

 

[Armin_Hy]

Why can't I load my old save?

 

[ffive]

A propos of nothing. Since in the next update we can expect the scooby gang to spend time at Perry's beach house, i wonder if Cindy will also be a part of it, or if her modeling contract will keep her busy the entire time. The former could be pretty neat, if there's ongoing affair with Ian.

(and by neat i mean a great source of petty rivalry and drama)

 

[Gicoo]

Yeah, Alison isn't so much sleeping with Jeremy because she wants some casual sex, but because to make Ian jealous.
Its implemented poorly in the game. She already laps into Jeremies arms if Ian decides to stay with Perry and Cherry even just a moment to break the ice. Constantly nagging how she has fun with Jeremy but really would love to have someone else at her side, HINT HINT, NUDGE NUDGE is exhausting. I also dislike that they don't discuss commitment, considering that Ian can spend a weekend with her and dines at her home. And while her chapter 11 seduction is great for cheating routes, its a bad move on her if Ian is already with Lena or Holly (and she knows this and twists it as "let's fuck BEFORE we enter a relationship with someone else").

 

[SerHawkes]

Yeah, Alison isn't so much sleeping with Jeremy because she wants some casual sex, but because to make Ian jealous.
Its implemented poorly in the game. She already laps into Jeremies arms if Ian decides to stay with Perry and Cherry even just a moment to break the ice. Constantly nagging how she has fun with Jeremy but really would love to have someone else at her side, HINT HINT, NUDGE NUDGE is exhausting. I also dislike that they don't discuss commitment, considering that Ian can spend a weekend with her and dines at her home. And while her chapter 11 seduction is great for cheating routes, its a bad move on her if Ian is already with Lena or Holly (and she knows this and twists it as "let's fuck BEFORE we enter a relationship with someone else").

Agree there. Plus, like Karate said, you basicly have to be solely interested in her otherwise she chases after Jeremys dick. Sure, there is some leeway if you happen to be sleeping with Lena as long as your upfront about it, but God Forbid you chose one date to spend time with Lena and Holly and it's 'OH, well guess I'll go see Jeremy then'. Like seriously?

 

[jollyjoker27]

Considering you've decided to devote large part of that breakdown to the fact "Alison sleeps with Jeremy" it seems to basically confirm my impression you've quoted? I.e. that it plays a significant role in that dislike. Otherwise, if it was just about Alison hitting on MC there would be zero reason to bring that aspect up.

Nah dude... that´s just the reoccuring theme with her, that she herself brings up.

A: Ian do you want me?
I: No
A:Well your loss, I´ll go get with Jeremy then
I: Ok
A: I got with Jeremy because you didn´t want to. Do you want to now?
I: No
A: Are you with Lena? No? Be with me!
I:No
A: I got with Jeremy again because you danced with Emma. Don´t you want me?
I: No
A: I got into a 3some with Jeremy and his friend. Do you want to have a 3some with Jeremy and me?
I: No
A: Look at Cherry and Perry go! Wanna go with me?
I: No

For us who care zero for Allison other than being in the friend group, it get´s annoying after the 2nd time, you know.

 

[ffive]

Yeah, Alison isn't so much sleeping with Jeremy because she wants some casual sex, but because to make Ian jealous.

I have some doubts if that's really the case -- since the whole idea to send pictures of her getting fucked was apparently Jeremy's, and then Alison decided she didn't mind that, after hearing that Ian liked those pictures. So from that she knows Ian isn't jealous and doesn't mind her fucking Jeremy, quite the opposite in fact. This can be also influencing her telling Ian more about the sex with Jeremy: since as far as she knows Ian enjoys listening about it, just like he allegedly enjoyed the pictures.

The whole idea of "she isn't doing it for actual sex, it's just to make me jealous" is very, well, egocentric. As if Alison can't simply like a good dicking even if it comes from someone she doesn't have feelings about, completely aside her crush for Ian.

 

[John Doe Jr.]

But why is it a problem with Alison, but not with say, Ivy? Because it's not like Ivy is a virgin who hasn't gotten laid once in these months the game has been talking place. Similarly other girls in the game are fucking other guys -- Cindy has her boyfriend, Minerva has her husband, Emma has her hookups, Lena can fuck literally half of the town. Somehow it doesn't make these characters less appealing, but Alison? "ohh she's crazy and has Jeremy's cooties, eeew". It's rather silly in its pickiness.

Yeah I'm not seeing where they're getting the "she's gonna stab Ian" from when no evidence at all has ever pointed to that being her personality whereas characters like Axel or Louise have been shown to be more likely to do that. Alison is a bit obsessed, yes, but she's not even as clingy as Louise for example. It's not to the point that would raise red flags or assume you'd be in danger. Like you said, if Alison is all of these bad things for hooking up or whatever then other characters you've mentioned would have to be way worse than she is.

 

[yuvce]

Agree there. Plus, like Karate said, you basicly have to be solely interested in her otherwise she chases after Jeremys dick. Sure, there is some leeway if you happen to be sleeping with Lena as long as your upfront about it, but God Forbid you chose one date to spend time with Lena and Holly and it's 'OH, well guess I'll go see Jeremy then'. Like seriously?

Even at Wade's birthday party in chapter 7, she doesn't even let Ian talk to Perry, Wade, or Emma first. Game just forces the Alison conversation to occur first.

 

[John Doe Jr.]

Well, we know Ivy has also given Jeremy blowjob or handjob depending on the timeline, and she's now apparently considering going further with him, and asking Ian's input on that. You're also fooling yourself she isn't having sex with other people that we don't get to hear about. And she will set the relationship with Ian to neutral if he doesn't hit on her when she's being flirty with him. So, who here really can't handle rejection well? Not just Alison, evidently.

There's also in game dialogue hinting to and not so hinting at Ivy being a bit sly. On the coffee date with Jess she mentions how Ivy reminds her of herself at that age and implies it's dangerous. And we also know about her dealings with Axel to get that modelling job. Even her relationship with Holly is quite manipulative as well as her encouraging Lena to fuck everyone

 

[John Doe Jr.]

Jeremy is a friendly rival and can have sex with Alison, Lena, Emma, and Louise, probably eventually Ivy as well, and will be beaten up at the martial arts tournament.

Will have to consult with Jeremy to find out if the bro code would prohibit Ian from beating him up

 

[SerHawkes]

Will have to consult with Jeremy to find out if the bro code would prohibit Ian from beating him up

I have no brocode with him. He will be beaten.

 

[John Doe Jr.]

There's also Mike Gillian's boyfriend that Ian might want to beat up at some point.

Incidentally, going by the comments in the script, apparently Eva is considering turning the poledancing in Ch.11 (and maybe later in the game, i'd guess -- there's possibility Lena's work at the club goes places) into a minigame.

edit: oh, and then there's also Wade who's likely to find out about Cindy/Ian and unwilling to take that without a literal fight.

Having Lena work as a stripper would be fun. Wonder if Seymour would interfere with that though. You just know the fallout between Wade/Cindy is going to fuck up the entire friend circle. I wouldn't be surprised if Perry kicks Ian out

 

[SerHawkes]

Having Lena work as a stripper would be fun. Wonder if Seymour would interfere with that though. You just know the fallout between Wade/Cindy is going to fuck up the entire friend circle. I wouldn't be surprised if Perry kicks Ian out

Shes not working as a stripper, yet people. Bartending from what Ivy said if memory serves.

 

[fatpussy123]

A propos of nothing. Since in the next update we can expect the scooby gang to spend time at Perry's beach house, i wonder if Cindy will also be a part of it, or if her modeling contract will keep her busy the entire time. The former could be pretty neat, if there's ongoing affair with Ian.

(and by neat i mean a great source of petty rivalry and drama)

mmh thats actually pretty interesting. if you think about it, we've had two branching events before, like Holly's book tour and Wade's birthday, but what we haven't had is a double branch for the same event. So both Ian and Lena can go to the Wildcats or to Perry's beach house. This will create 4 possible branches:
-Ian and Lena both go to the beach house, Cindy is at Wildcats along with Ivy. Maybe we see videos and pics of the events.
-Ian goes with Cindy to the Wildcats. On the surface it seems like it'd blow their cover, but Cindy could easily say Ian was at the last photoshoot and trusts him, also Wade and her are taking a break so she doesnt want him following her. Lena goes to the beach house.
-Lena goes to the Wildcats. Spicy Ivy content and spicy Axel content. Maybe thats where we see the fabled Axel Cindy sex scene, but from Lena's perspective. Ian goes to beach house
-Ian and Lena both go to the Wildcats, either because they are dating or Ian is dating Cindy. Content could include a threesome with Ivy and Lena, Cindy and Axel from Ians perspective