VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.13.2 Beta] [Eva Kiss]

[camube]

I'm getting impression that what people get upset with Alison over is that, if they don't return Alison's affections they expect her to sit in a corner sobbing all alone until they maybe change their mind after they fuck everyone else available to them. But instead she just shrugs it off and goes to have fun with a guy who actually bothers to hit on her and how dares she.

In other words, that it's fine if they "fuck other people" before Alison, but if it's Alison who fucks some other guy before Ian gets to stick it in? Perish the thought and cue complaints about cheating, cucking and whathaveyou.

Just because Alison has feelings for Ian doesn't mean she's not allowed to have some casual sex when she's single and the guy she has crush on turns her down. It doesn't mean she doesn't love him. Merely that she doesn't obsess over it as much as some people claim she does.

yeah I agree with this. Single girl have the rights to have fun, just like single guy.

but there's a certain amount of expectation when you're in a sexual relationship with someone who has confessed they have always had a crush on you. Being denied a date and then fucking that person's best friend less than 24 hours later is absolute ho behavior.

Unless you as a person and how you control Ian as a player also put the same rigid standard onto yourself, a standard where you as a guy don't fool around when given the opportunity to do so if you currently hold a crush for another girl, then your view on Alison would be a double standard.

If you put the same standard onto yourself, then it's fair game.
Alison-type person is just not for you.

Agree there. Plus, like Karate said, you basicly have to be solely interested in her otherwise she chases after Jeremys dick. Sure, there is some leeway if you happen to be sleeping with Lena as long as your upfront about it, but God Forbid you chose one date to spend time with Lena and Holly and it's 'OH, well guess I'll go see Jeremy then'. Like seriously?

Jeremy was hitting on her, not the other way around.
She was just given an opportunity to fool around. She's single, she took it.

She still tries to fuck you even if you show zero interest with her in this update. She lies to you about going to her place to talk about Gillian, only to make a move on Ian who hasn't shown interest. She doesn't love Ian. SHE IS FUCKING OBSESSED and can't take the hint.

If your Ian show 0 interest towards Alison, your Ian automatically reject the invitation to go to her house.
The game doesn't give an opportunity to accept Alison's offer

 

[SerHawkes]

If your Ian show 0 interest towards Alison, your Ian automatically reject the invitation to go to her house.
The game doesn't give an opportunity to accept Alison's offer

Wrong. If your rejected, it doesn't happen. Otherwise, you get the offer to go to her place.

 

[camube]

Wrong. If your rejected, it doesn't happen. Otherwise, you get the offer to go to her place.

rejected by who?

 

[SerHawkes]

rejected by who?

Alison. See, if you go just friends route, she WILL invite you over to her house REGARDLESS.

However, if you showed interest but broke things off, it won't happen. Thats the only means of not getting the offer to go.

 

[camube]

Alison. See, if you go just friends route, she WILL invite you over to her house REGARDLESS.

However, if you showed interest but broke things off, it won't happen. Thats the only means of not getting the offer to go.

oh that's not what I mean.

My 0-interest-towards-Alison Ian is getting the offer to go back to her house, it's just that that Ian would automatically reject the offer and the player doesn't have the agency to accept going to her place.

So in that universe, Alison didn't have the chance to come at Ian at her house, cuz Ian said no before that could happen.

 

[| Vee |]

oh that's not what I mean.

My 0-interest-towards-Alison Ian is getting the offer to go back to her house, it's just that that Ian would automatically reject the offer and the player doesn't have the agency to accept going to her place.

So in that universe, Alison didn't have the chance to come at Ian at her house, cuz Ian said no before that could happen.

THe only check for accepting offer is if IAN and Alison's relationship point are >5 in Agenda
ian_alison>5

EDIT: IF you didn't go on trip and later if Ian rejects her than she wouldn't invite Ian cause after exiting club there is ian_alison_dating check which is set to false if Ian has serious/open relationship with Lena

BUT if you switch from Alison path to Emma path in Club than she invites you. whether Ian has open(not sure about serious) relationship with Lena or not

 

[CoalPhelps]

Yeah me either. It's very clear she loves Ian. When he rejects she moves and fucks Jeremy and when Ian asks she basically tells him this. It's only when Jeremy tells her than Ian LIKES the pics he's been sending that Alison thinks she still has a shot. Hence her going for one more attempt at Ian. But, to my knowledge, she's never treated Ian wrong. She hasn't acted like Robert, Seymour, Axel, or Louise. I also get the feeling 100% that when/if we get the chance to tell Alison we want her to be ours in a relationship she wouldn't be fucking with any other guy unless Ian tells her he wants her to

Well, that's not true, she offers Ian sex regardless of whether or not he gets her pics.

To me, Alison's problem is not that she fucks Jeremy or even Billy, but her Yanderish and self-centered vibe. Her main topic of conversation is problems at work, with her ex, etc. and often she interrupts other characters' stories to talk about herself and even Ian, who likes her, doesn't really want to hear it. And she's constantly trying to ask him about Lena and sarcastically comment on what he has to say. Anyway, she's just not a very nice person, although the sex scenes with her aren't bad, I won't argue.

Anyway, her bimbofication in Ch. 11 seems like a rather odd decision. No, sure, a girl participating in a threesome and trying to induce sex on a guy in a relationship is prone to promiscuity, but that's over the top. This porn trope usually builds on the fact that the BBC inclines the girl to do it, but Jeremy clearly doesn't have that much influence over her that she would start radically changing her appearance for his sake.

 

[noturiah]

Fully expect her to go stabby or burny.

We absolutely need a new VN starring Alison called "Stabby or Burny"

 

[CoalPhelps]

The battle with wade will be on Tekken.

In fact, it would have been a good comedic relief in this whole Cindy situation.

 

[DeemLeem12]

I don't give a fuck if Alison baby traps me. I'll make her pump out 6 more in 2 years.

 

[ChaozEnigma]

When Lena says she needs time to Stan, she mentions hanging out next week. Is it reading into it too much to say that there won't be stan content in full chapter 11? Since this prologue is part of ch 11?

I cant seem to be able to get choose "i need time" for stan, any chance of how to do it?

 

[noturiah]

mmh thats actually pretty interesting. if you think about it, we've had two branching events before, like Holly's book tour and Wade's birthday, but what we haven't had is a double branch for the same event. So both Ian and Lena can go to the Wildcats or to Perry's beach house. This will create 4 possible branches:
-Ian and Lena both go to the beach house, Cindy is at Wildcats along with Ivy. Maybe we see videos and pics of the events.
-Ian goes with Cindy to the Wildcats. On the surface it seems like it'd blow their cover, but Cindy could easily say Ian was at the last photoshoot and trusts him, also Wade and her are taking a break so she doesnt want him following her. Lena goes to the beach house.
-Lena goes to the Wildcats. Spicy Ivy content and spicy Axel content. Maybe thats where we see the fabled Axel Cindy sex scene, but from Lena's perspective. Ian goes to beach house
-Ian and Lena both go to the Wildcats, either because they are dating or Ian is dating Cindy. Content could include a threesome with Ivy and Lena, Cindy and Axel from Ians perspective

These various branching events make sense to me as you've stated them. One reason I also think they might work is, Perry says they could spend "one or two weeks" in August at the beach house (and these two weeks might easily correspond to Chapters 12 & 13) and then the beach house would end, the Wildcats shoot would end, and Eva would be able to bring all the branches back together for the end of August or start of September back in Baluart. Obviously relationships between characters would be different based on what had happened in August, but the default situation for everyone would be back to "normal" life and events (the MMA tourney, Ian's writing contest, Lena working in the cafe, etc.) at the same time.

One thing we do need to keep in mind, though, is that Ian and Lena won't be at the beach house/Wildcats shoot for the entire chapters. When Perry invites Ian, he says "Sure, I guess... I'm working, but I can take a few days off to go on vacation or something." And when Perry invites Lena, she says "I'd like to tag along too, if I can. Things are a bit chaotic right now and I'm not sure how free I'll be next month." So they will both be going back and forth to some extent between Baluart and the beach. This probably frees Eva a bit in terms of getting in additional content depending on play choices (e.g. Minerva for Ian, Mike or Robert for Lena) but also may mean Ian and Lena might be able to partake in both beach options, on different weeks. Which could be fascinating, as it expands opportunities further.

 

[| Vee |]

You have to admit Cindy here is looking irresistible:

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[Dirtytreenaturd]

I cant seem to be able to get choose "i need time" for stan, any chance of how to do it?

It requires stan_change variable to be positive.

... Yes, Stan has _change variable, much like Holly. Who knew

Here's how it's documented:
Python:
default stan_change = 0 # (triggers if v10_stan_concert == True) 2 =Lena appeases Stan / 1=Lena sides with Stan against Louise/ 0= Stan acts like an incel

edit: also keep in mind, this is apparently a work in progress, and there isn't (yet) any actual points in the game where the value of this variable is changed from default. So right now the only way to activate that branch would be manually setting value from the Renpy console.

So change that 0 to a 1 or a 2. To open console you need to press "shift + O".

 

[| Vee |]

These various branching events make sense to me as you've stated them. One reason I also think they might work is, Perry says they could spend "one or two weeks" in August at the beach house (and these two weeks might easily correspond to Chapters 12 & 13) and then the beach house would end, the Wildcats shoot would end, and Eva would be able to bring all the branches back together for the end of August or start of September back in Baluart. Obviously relationships between characters would be different based on what had happened in August, but the default situation for everyone would be back to "normal" life and events (the MMA tourney, Ian's writing contest, Lena working in the cafe, etc.) at the same time.

One thing we do need to keep in mind, though, is that Ian and Lena won't be at the beach house/Wildcats shoot for the entire chapters. When Perry invites Ian, he says "Sure, I guess... I'm working, but I can take a few days off to go on vacation or something." And when Perry invites Lena, she says "I'd like to tag along too, if I can. Things are a bit chaotic right now and I'm not sure how free I'll be next month." So they will both be going back and forth to some extent between Baluart and the beach. This probably frees Eva a bit in terms of getting in additional content depending on play choices (e.g. Minerva for Ian, Mike or Robert for Lena) but also may mean Ian and Lena might be able to partake in both beach options, on different weeks. Which could be fascinating, as it expands opportunities further.

Also if Lena is on Seymour's Path Seymour may forbid her to go out of Belaurt or some other scenario.

 

[Jccurtis]

Can anyone give me the 100% full gallery save please thanks

 

[| Vee |]

Can anyone give me the 100% full gallery save please thanks

FOR THOSE WHO WANT TO UNLOCK GALLERY JUST DO THIS:
Start a new game and select Cheat path than the game will ask you if you want to enable the Gallery and voila. And if you want to lock the Gallery again do same thing and select disable Gallery.

It's available only in Ch11.

 

[John Doe Jr.]

Well, that's not true, she offers Ian sex regardless of whether or not he gets her pics.

To me, Alison's problem is not that she fucks Jeremy or even Billy, but her Yanderish and self-centered vibe. Her main topic of conversation is problems at work, with her ex, etc. and often she interrupts other characters' stories to talk about herself and even Ian, who likes her, doesn't really want to hear it. And she's constantly trying to ask him about Lena and sarcastically comment on what he has to say. Anyway, she's just not a very nice person, although the sex scenes with her aren't bad, I won't argue.

Anyway, her bimbofication in Ch. 11 seems like a rather odd decision. No, sure, a girl participating in a threesome and trying to induce sex on a guy in a relationship is prone to promiscuity, but that's over the top. This porn trope usually builds on the fact that the BBC inclines the girl to do it, but Jeremy clearly doesn't have that much influence over her that she would start radically changing her appearance for his sake.

She's definitely not a perfect person by any means but I don't think that equals to her being a piece of shit or going to murder Ian or something. The bimbofication is all about getting Ian interested. That's the main thing. If you're on her route you can push her in that direction or you can push her in the other direction. Alison, I think due to her repressed desire for Ian and her personal struggles atm, is very malleable. If Ian asks her to do something or she thinks there's even a slight chance of something getting Ian's attention she'll damn near do anything. I don't think that's the classic mindless bimbo slut but tbh even if it was 100% just the bimbo trope I'd still be into it. Just because something is a trope doesn't necessarily mean it's a bad thing. It's still a porn game after all so if it's hot it's hot trope or not

 

[desmosome]

Getting to creampie her in the latest update is gonna be the same scene regardless of which route you took to get to that point. I was just pointing out another path to get there that ffve didn't mention. Basically going on Alison's route, including the trip where she first shows you that low cut dress, but not committing to a love relationship with her there (because that blocks Lena route). After that trip, you can commit to Lena and become a couple. That leads to Ian breaking it off with Alison in chapter 10. Which should satisfy the condition to get her to let him cum inside in chapter 11.

Oops, I might have spread misinformation here. This is, in fact, not possible. I guess I was too blinded by the prospect of Ian getting a new cheating partner on ian_lena_couple route other than Cindy and Minerva. I forgot about the fact that I fudged ian_alison points to 6 to pass that check. At the time, I just figured I could have missed a point or two somewhere.

So taking a deeper look, it seems that when Ian breaks it off with Alison over the phone, it sets their relationship to 3. He can apologize to bring it to 4. There are no more situations with her to raise the relationship score by the time she offers him to come to her place (after the Gillian thing). And the requirement for Ian to accept is 6 or more points.

So Alison's character is still trying her hardest to ensnare Ian, but Ian can't fall for it if he is on Lena route. Bummer.

 

[camube]

So taking a deeper look, it seems that when Ian breaks it off with Alison over the phone, it sets their relationship to 3. He can apologize to bring it to 4. There are no more situations with her to raise the relationship score by the time she offers him to come to her place (after the Gillian thing). And the requirement for Ian to accept is 6 or more points.

So Alison's character is still trying her hardest to ensnare Ian, but Ian can't fall for it if he is on Lena route. Bummer.

yeah this is what i was getting at yes

my Commited Relationship to Lena Ian never able to accept Alison's offer to her house. He rejects automatically.
That playthrough also has that Ian went for Cherry on the first Shine scene, but she slept with Alison too.