CyberL4d

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I love female protagonist games and have played almost every game of this genre on the site and always thought there should be more games of that. But when it comes to this game, I think Ian's possible relationships are very interesting and he is a much more enjoyable character than Lena. Perhaps the fact that the Lena part of the game still has not reached a sufficient level has a big share in this. (yeah I'm talking about the slut route.)

I am surprised that the majority of the vote is on Lena's side, because I'm usually on the side of the popular choice. I hope Eva continues to bring the same quality content to Ian side without taking this vote too seriously. Without Ian, this game wouldn't have been that successful.
 

Grumpy Old Aussie

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I love female protagonist games and have played almost every game of this genre on the site and always thought there should be more games of that. But when it comes to this game, I think Ian's possible relationships are very interesting and he is a much more enjoyable character than Lena. Perhaps the fact that the Lena part of the game still has not reached a sufficient level has a big share in this. (yeah I'm talking about the slut route.)

I am surprised that the majority of the vote is on Lena's side, because I'm usually on the side of the popular choice. I hope Eva continues to bring the same quality content to Ian side without taking this vote too seriously. Without Ian, this game wouldn't have been that successful.
Without Ian's side of the story, I would have lost interest in playing the game to be honest. I have loved exploring his different relationship routes.
With Lena the more I explore her relationship paths the less appealing she is to me as a person. She can sometimes come across as bitchy, no thanks, I don't want to play a character that reminds me of my ex-wife haha. Lena's choice in relationships are walking dildos at best and boring. Seymour's path is somewhat interesting. Without Holly and Ivy, there isn't too much interest In Lena's story for me. I'm sure many will disagree with me and that is fine.
 

MF_DOOM

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Without Ian's side of the story, I would have lost interest in playing the game to be honest. I have loved exploring his different relationship routes.
With Lena the more I explore her relationship paths the less appealing she is to me as a person. She can sometimes come across as bitchy, no thanks, I don't want to play a character that reminds me of my ex-wife haha. Lena's choice in relationships are walking dildos at best and boring. Seymour's path is somewhat interesting. Without Holly and Ivy, there isn't too much interest In Lena's story for me. I'm sure many will disagree with me and that is fine.
I have to agree with this one. Robert is insurable, Mike is meh at best.
Ian got some meh choices too, one is a fat crack head communist and another one is an empty-headed blond.
 
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Official android Ch. 11 Final:

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Keep getting app not installed on this. No idea why, way more than enough space

Edit: and joiplay will not let me install a renpy package at all, the file never show up when I click install package, no apk, no xapk
 
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Grumpy Old Aussie

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I have to agree with this one. Robert is insurable, Mike is meh at best.
Ian got some meh choices too, one is a fat crack head communist and another one is an empty-headed blond.
lol I can't argue with that. I can only add with Cindy there is the Wade factor and how that will go betraying a bro and all. Also Axel is a factor so Cindy's path is interesting, less so Cindy herself. Emma well yeah a nut case but there is the Perry factor, the bro question, they live together, and how that will effect the inner circle of friends, less about Emma but the path is interesting to follow. Those are the least interesting paths for Ian sooo...

Lena's guys might see some interest maybe. Maybe if Gillian is Mike's bf it may get interesting but why would Lena care anyway. a non-event. With Jeremy it could be interesting if Ian had found out before breaking up with Lena but by the end of Ch11, it is probably a non-event as well. Lena's paths just aren't as interesting as Ians for me. However, I haven't quite finished all the paths yet so maybe I missed something exciting still to be discovered.
 

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There wasn't a single new picture in the full version? I unpacked the files and I'm not seeing anything new. Normally they add a scene or two.
 
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JoJoPool

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There wasn't a single new picture in the full version? I unpacked the files and I'm not seeing anything new. Normally they add a scene or two.
Dev mentioned some scenes in ch11 will be 'expanded' in the epilogue.
The way i understand it is :
beta : bug fixes
full : refinement (more dialogue/new little details)
epilogue : chapter ending + new scenes
 

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Keep getting app not installed on this. No idea why, way more than enough space

Edit: and joiplay will not let me install a renpy package at all, the file never show up when I click install package, no apk, no xapk
I installed but had to remove previous APK, it was conflicted. Had to start a game from 0
 

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In fairness, a Lena solo game would also include a npc Ian who would probably be more of a squarely good guy, struggling with his ex-girlfriend cheating on him, and struggling with his artistic pursuits. He'd be a natural foil to Mike, where instead of being the corrupting influence, Lena could be a supportive influence.

I generally think that Lena is more popular though because players like to see her corrupted. Ian's story is very much about bettering himself, but there's no one really trying to bring him down or make him fall. Maybe Axel or Seymour will become that to him, but even then, it's based on their relationship to Lena. If Ian ends up as mediocre as he started, it's due to his own lack of commitment. The closest corruption I can think of is the Cindy path, but no one is really encouraging him to make those choices and Cindy even tries to distance herself from him.

Conversely, Lena actually has forces working against her to try and make her submit to her or influence her. Axel, Seymour, and even Ivy are all trying to push and pull Lena in various directions that many would consider to make her less good as a person. Even if the characters in Ian's story are more interesting, there's very little conflict or drama in that path, outside of the Cindy/Wade situation, the Minerva job situation or what Lena herself introduces to his story. I'm interested by the involvement of Gillian though, because that does seem like it might introduce more conflict and drama for Ian's side of the story.
 

Grumpy Old Aussie

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In fairness, a Lena solo game would also include a npc Ian who would probably be more of a squarely good guy, struggling with his ex-girlfriend cheating on him, and struggling with his artistic pursuits. He'd be a natural foil to Mike, where instead of being the corrupting influence, Lena could be a supportive influence.

I generally think that Lena is more popular though because players like to see her corrupted. Ian's story is very much about bettering himself, but there's no one really trying to bring him down or make him fall. Maybe Axel or Seymour will become that to him, but even then, it's based on their relationship to Lena. If Ian ends up as mediocre as he started, it's due to his own lack of commitment. The closest corruption I can think of is the Cindy path, but no one is really encouraging him to make those choices and Cindy even tries to distance herself from him.

Conversely, Lena actually has forces working against her to try and make her submit to her or influence her. Axel, Seymour, and even Ivy are all trying to push and pull Lena in various directions that many would consider to make her less good as a person. Even if the characters in Ian's story are more interesting, there's very little conflict or drama in that path, outside of the Cindy/Wade situation, the Minerva job situation or what Lena herself introduces to his story. I'm interested by the involvement of Gillian though, because that does seem like it might introduce more conflict and drama for Ian's side of the story.
You raise some good points. When I first played I loved the Ian, Lena and Holly characters and how the Lena and Ian story arc progressed. Since then I have come back to the game and started exploring paths I hadn't explored before like Alison/Ian and slutty Lena path. I found myself less enamoured with Lena after exploring her darker paths. I found her bitchy at times and hypocritical on some of the paths. So I am struggling to stay engaged with her character.

I need to connect with characters to enjoy a story. So a solo Lena story is unlikely to appeal to me much at the moment but there is more story to come so we will see. I wasn't a fan of Ivy before, but she has grown on me as a character so you never know. Lena doesn't have to be perfect but less like my ex-wife would be good haha.
 

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In fairness, a Lena solo game would also include a npc Ian who would probably be more of a squarely good guy, struggling with his ex-girlfriend cheating on him, and struggling with his artistic pursuits. He'd be a natural foil to Mike, where instead of being the corrupting influence, Lena could be a supportive influence.

I generally think that Lena is more popular though because players like to see her corrupted. Ian's story is very much about bettering himself, but there's no one really trying to bring him down or make him fall. Maybe Axel or Seymour will become that to him, but even then, it's based on their relationship to Lena. If Ian ends up as mediocre as he started, it's due to his own lack of commitment. The closest corruption I can think of is the Cindy path, but no one is really encouraging him to make those choices and Cindy even tries to distance herself from him.

Conversely, Lena actually has forces working against her to try and make her submit to her or influence her. Axel, Seymour, and even Ivy are all trying to push and pull Lena in various directions that many would consider to make her less good as a person. Even if the characters in Ian's story are more interesting, there's very little conflict or drama in that path, outside of the Cindy/Wade situation, the Minerva job situation or what Lena herself introduces to his story. I'm interested by the involvement of Gillian though, because that does seem like it might introduce more conflict and drama for Ian's side of the story.
A Lena solo game would be perfect

I agree with you...
LLEENNNNAAAAA story is amazing and where she is present in the Ian it is good to make him a cuckold :cool: (the only popular possible path for Ian)

Ian story is simply boring in fact although it has some seemingly more interesting parts this is a "must" in order to avoid unbalance and absolute boredom, in fact I think Eva is spending a lot of effort to write Ian's part in an interesting way (I think the consistency of IAN story is the main cause of delay and rewriting)

Lena will be more and more popular it is her destiny.
pretty brunettes are definitely less boring than Ian's books
...thinking well Eva wrote the "perfect" job to make Ian popular:p
 

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Dev mentioned some scenes in ch11 will be 'expanded' in the epilogue.
The way i understand it is :
beta : bug fixes
full : refinement (more dialogue/new little details)
epilogue : chapter ending + new scenes
This is a wild definition of "final"
 

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Ending 95% likely; scenes not yet; route shaping up is reflected through dialogue by the End of current version.
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I did this route and ended up having sex with Holly. She and Ian broke up but they have some lingering feelings for each other. Ian and Holly became a couple but also Holly have a crush on Lena as well.

Ian have moments where is thirsty for Lena while he's with Holly and Holly feeling Lena as well.

I also picked the choice of Lena to dance with Ian on Ivy Party which clearly spark up some feelings and then Lena kissing Holly a couple times.

Now on this chapter I have Ian not opening up to Holly after sex Holly confesses that she's also confused on her feelings for someone else as well. It interesting because they feel the same way and they talked about it.

Then Lena got the inner monologue where she have the thought of three of them having feeling for each other.

I have feeling Lena will talk to them about it hopefully next chapter or soon.
 
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