mommysboiii

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Mmm not sure spiking Hollys drink would count as understanding consent or boundaries.
I heard this often where is it written that she does it? I mean ivy is not a good person and I like evil ivy :devilish: :devilish: but I never read that she spiked holly drink on any route at all

I dont think that this is true mate
 

Barretto24

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One thing I would say Writer's block exists I've been living near that block and faced writer's block dilemma when writing an essay on Adult games benefit's.

Jokes aside, Writer's block exists but not so much. It also depends on writer's thinking, It can be bcz of various thing's such as need to make character in a certain way, representing character's to make them fit in the main story bcz now main story is now progressing towards different direction, now character have to behave in a certain way due to their growth in story as an outcome of choices/routes, introducing new ways to create more engagement/investment/avoid criticism of audience, and lastly overthinking of writer.

I didn't play EK's GGGB so I can't say about her style of writing but from ORS, EK is refining things as going with the story and changing and refining minor things in story as going forward and that's not a bad thing. Writer's usually write like this. AND REMEMBER this story is still in development, meaning changes/refining are mandatory and will occur till the completion of story. It can be viewed by us unnecessary but from writer's POV that might be where he/she doesn't want his/her character's. Also a writer has to do justice to each of it's character according to story and some may be given opportunities/stats that other characters can't get. So there are various ways a story may unfold till it's completion. And we can disagree with it, it's not a big deal.

I write fanfiction and can confirm writers block is real. My latest has been stuck in "development hell" for over a year because I am stuck on how to proceed. ‍♂
 

| Vee |

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"Spiking Holly's drink" is a dumb fan theory, not something that actually happens in the game.
I agree. As much Ivy is portrayed EVILLLL! She doesn't coerce/spike Lena in nightclub IF Lena denies and don't throw some drugs down her throat. Not first time, not second time. Why would she do it with Holly. She is teaching Holly stuff and calls herself Holly's Teacher several times. Holly does what she is comfortable with, can do, and IF Lena is supporting. So, it is absurd to think Ivy will spike Holly's drink. This can/may only be possible if Lena herself is druggie.
 
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ffive

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I heard this often where is it written that she does it? I mean ivy is not a good person and I like evil ivy :devilish: :devilish: but I never read that she spiked holly drink on any route at all

I dont think that this is true mate
Some people just can't stomach the thought Saint Holly would want to suck a guy's dick out of her own volition, after merely getting encouraged to have some fun by her new girlfriends. Even though Holly herself will readily offer to suck off Ian first thing in the morning after they had sex for the first time.
 

Esti

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do any of these make Cherry's actions and personality any less shit?
No, but they raise a question about singling Cherry out. She have done a bad thing, yeah, but so did many others. Why aren't all of them called shit human beings?


While Gillian hurt a person closer to her, the basic mindset behind Cherry's and Gillian's actions is still the same.
...and behind Ian's actions as well. I mean that taking something that you want despite someone else's wishes is the baseline here. But as you yourself have put it, there is a difference. Pretty big one. Causing distress to stranger who is ready and agreed to take part in it is not the same as causing it to unsuspecting stranger. Causing distress to the loved one as a result of your deliberate actions is not the same as causing it to stranger with the same actions.

Have a friend take compromising pictures, mail these. Or just spontaneously fuck in a place where Lena might catch you, it's hardly your fault (at least not any more than Axel's) if she does.
And said boyfriend in question is dumb? Fucking in places where you can be caught is beyond moronic. And compromising pictures are not so compromising if they doesn't depict very specific actions.
 

ffive

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No, but they raise a question about singling Cherry out. She have done a bad thing, yeah, but so did many others. Why aren't all of them called shit human beings?
I think we have a misunderstanding here. I'm not singling Cherry out as the only person who's done bad things. I'm arguing that she shouldn't be singled out as someone whose bad deeds should be dismissed.

This whole discussion spawned from the talk how Cherry is the best possible RO, on account of others being shit. My point is merely that she is no better than these others.

And said boyfriend in question is dumb? Fucking in places where you can be caught is beyond moronic.
It's Axel, which makes the question entirely rhetorical. Dude is dumb to the point he's hitting on a girl in front of a guy who's there specifically to watch for this sort of behavior.
 

dontcarewhateverno

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Some people just can't stomach the thought Saint Holly would want to suck a guy's dick out of her own volition, after merely getting encouraged to have some fun by her new girlfriends. Even though Holly herself will readily offer to suck off Ian first thing in the morning after they had sex for the first time.
Come on now. Holly could NeVeR be encouraged to be a slut. She's too pure hearted. She's just "researching" for her new book. :WeSmart:

(Tbf though, in the Ian situation at least, she'd been pining for Ian from the start and seems very selective at that point. I'd imagine the majority of "good girls" doing the same in that situation. It's not the same as a more corrupted/influenced Holly with Mark in later chapters, which was a lot more casual with no emotional investment).
 
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vvvhhhhnnn

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With Holly so far, I do like her and generally she's well-written but on the Ivy corruption path she is incredibly passive/doll-like. If she's read loads and is intelligent she would be having interesting thoughts about sex now she's getting it, and she basically just says bland things like she's getting more confident (when Ivy's obviously just using her for whatever). I want to hear some of what she thinks about the sex she's having.
I also think when girls who haven't felt attractive suddenly get some attention they can get a bit drunk on that sometimes, so I'd like to see her enjoying getting male attention in the club, and maybe leading guys on because she likes having that power now (texting the guy from work, and Mark), posting thirst-trap selfies on socials and maybe showing loads of curiosity about Lena's past partners and stuff. At the moment she DOES the corrupted things but it doesn't actually seem to have affected her personality at all
 

Grumpy Old Aussie

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With Holly so far, I do like her and generally she's well-written but on the Ivy corruption path she is incredibly passive/doll-like. If she's read loads and is intelligent she would be having interesting thoughts about sex now she's getting it, and she basically just says bland things like she's getting more confident (when Ivy's obviously just using her for whatever). I want to hear some of what she thinks about the sex she's having.
I also think when girls who haven't felt attractive suddenly get some attention they can get a bit drunk on that sometimes, so I'd like to see her enjoying getting male attention in the club, and maybe leading guys on because she likes having that power now (texting the guy from work, and Mark), posting thirst-trap selfies on socials and maybe showing loads of curiosity about Lena's past partners and stuff. At the moment she DOES the corrupted things but it doesn't actually seem to have affected her personality at all
I'm sure Holly has lots of thoughts she doesn't usually offer them up. Her opinions often have to be dragged out of her. I don't care much for the whole Holly corruption thing. I prefer the good girl Holly because she contrasts something different in a story already full of hoes. The more my sons date, the less hope I have they will find a Holly to bring home. The last two Lena type girls they brought home turned out to be... ugh less said the better.
 

Lorenz1

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Looking at the current poll, I expected Holly to almost catch up to Cindy as the fan favorite after all the content Eva Kiss has been shoveling with her in all the various paths, but it hardly made a difference.

Alison, still getting only about 10% of the total votes, remains hilarious, too. With the amount of screen time, a shit-ton of sex scenes, and various outcomes, you would expect she'd be more popular among the fan base despite her character flaws.

Previous polls for reference:



Poll 1 (2020); 1666 total votes

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Poll 2 (2021); 3632 total votes

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AHAHAHAH. No matter what dev tries, no matter how much content she makes or how hard she sticks the unpopular characters in the players faces, they are still unpopular.

What a surprise.

Frankly, I don't remember who the characters outside of top-3 are, and I don't care to.
 

dontcarewhateverno

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I'm sure Holly has lots of thoughts she doesn't usually offer them up. Her opinions often have to be dragged out of her. I don't care much for the whole Holly corruption thing. I prefer the good girl Holly because she contrasts something different in a story already full of hoes. The more my sons date, the less hope I have they will find a Holly to bring home. The last two Lena type girls they brought home turned out to be... ugh less said the better.
Yes. "The Great Thottening" of the mid 00s & the resulting Kardashian wars has left your sons with little hope. :(
 

DSM010

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I liked the hard corruption & drugs in GGGB. I was thinking to also try Red String, but was under the impresssion that this is a more vanilla game than GGGB. Is that true? Or am I misjudging the game? thx
 
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Abazzaba

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I liked the hard corruption & drugs in GGGB. I was thinking to also try Red String, but was under the impresssion that this is a more vanilla game than GGGB. Is that true? Or am I misjudging the game? thx
There are drugs and corruption already, but the story is only roughly just past the halfway mark so far.
It's not going to get as dark as some of the endings in GGGB though.
 

LoneWaker59

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I liked the hard corruption & drugs in GGGB. I was thinking to also try Red String, but was under the impresssion that this is a more vanilla game than GGGB. Is that true? Or am I misjudging the game? thx
Yes, this game doesn't even come close to the levels of insanity we saw in GGGB, there are some moments where you can choose to use drugs but nothing that comes close to how it was in the previous game, this game is more focused on (Eva's fetish in Bully/Cuck) getting over your ex and survive in the broken economy of Baluart.
 

LoneWaker59

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Even if you choose to "keep it casual" with Lena, will Ian break up with Alison/Cherry automatically? can't you have Lena/Alison or Lena/Cherry at the same time?
 

ffive

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Even if you choose to "keep it casual" with Lena, will Ian break up with Alison/Cherry automatically? can't you have Lena/Alison or Lena/Cherry at the same time?
Cherry will withdraw if Ian and Lena are a couple. If Ian is simply hooking up with Lena then he can choose to be with Cherry instead (What if I stopped seeing Lena? requires Charisma of 8+ or a will point to stick) but it's not possible to maintain relationship with both of them, neither of them wants that for obvious reasons.

Ian who didn't have sex with Alison before Ch.11 can accept Alison's invitation and hook up, regardless of whether he's dating Lena or not.
 
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