VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.13.2 Beta] [Eva Kiss]

[GokutheG]

If you choose the path in which Lena is titillated enough to willingly accept Seymour's proposal, in my view, it is not really antagonistic; rather he is feeding Lena's own desires; desires which scare her. (I curiously did a speed run of Lena truly being forced into it and found the resulting antagonistic dialogue to be very unappealing.)

Seymour is an intriguing character for me. I had Lena go along with the contract because I felt their back and forth was interesting. Like Seymour is so used to things going his way and I had Lena say she was more than a mere object so I'd like to see how that dynamic is developed. I hope the revamp scene didn't change that dynamic.

To me making Seymour outright antagonistic towards Lena was a bad move. Yes Seymour is an evil rich businessman but he should be attacking Lena's morals instead of trying to blackmail her because it makes him look weak and desperate. Imagine if the bad things that happens in the story could be traced back to Seymour. Alison and Wade losing their jobs is because Seymour had some businesses merge and eventho they were good they were expendable. The leap in rent is due to Seymour buying up the properties. Like make one of the places that the characters frequent go under due to new shinier businesses popping up.

While showing that Seymour business practices are hurting those around her he should be trying to lure Lena in with the good life. Like the necklace, is Lena tired of Stan and Louis' constant drama he can offer her a penthouse, support her modeling career and finally offering to help find better doctors for her parents' medical issues. Her family knows that she's been struggling to help them so how is she able to afford the doctor bills. Have them worry about what she has to do to support them.

And this would lead to Lena taking out one of Seymour's biggest obstacle in the city Emma. She's trying to fight back against Seymour's shady practices so if a Lena that's been completely seduced can try to convince her that he's not so bad and try to use the lavish lifestyle to blind her to the real issues that he's causing and having Emma added to her contact could be interesting.

 

[Andrea9999]

Seymour is an intriguing character for me. I had Lena go along with the contract because I felt their back and forth was interesting. Like Seymour is so used to things going his way and I had Lena say she was more than a mere object so I'd like to see how that dynamic is developed. I hope the revamp scene didn't change that dynamic.

To me making Seymour outright antagonistic towards Lena was a bad move. Yes Seymour is an evil rich businessman but he should be attacking Lena's morals instead of trying to blackmail her because it makes him look weak and desperate. ......

While showing that Seymour business practices are hurting those around her he should be trying to lure Lena in with the good life. Like the necklace, ...... support her modeling career and finally offering to help find better doctors for her parents' medical issues. Her family knows that she's been struggling to help them so how is she able to afford the doctor bills. Have them worry about what she has to do to support them.

And this would lead to Lena taking out one of Seymour's biggest obstacle in the city Emma. She's trying to fight back against Seymour's shady practices so if a Lena that's been completely seduced can try to convince her that he's not so bad and try to use the lavish lifestyle to blind her to the real issues that he's causing and having Emma added to her contact could be interesting.

I agree with much of what you say. Except....I only find the possibility of Ian entering the interaction interesting...not the interaction with others. (Or remotely...the possibility of Holly)

" support her modeling career" rather I would say redefine her modeling career to be one of exhibitionism to others...pushing her own limits of inhibition to the wayside...I have to say that I am looking for a much darker erotica here as I have described inmy earliest posts (despite the flak I got from others who, in my view, are looking for a conventional soap opera) .... EK herself has used the adjective "dark" for the Seymour scenario...I think she has my back on this. But...never forget...Seymour will look out for Lena's parents...that has to count for something.

 

[GokutheG]

I agree with much of what you say. Except....I only find the possibility of Ian entering the interaction interesting...not the interaction with others. (Or remotely...the possibility of Holly)

" support her modeling career" rather I would say redefine her modeling career to be one of exhibitionism to others...pushing her own limits of inhibition to the wayside...I have to say that I am looking for a much darker erotica here as I have described inmy earliest posts (despite the flak I got from others who, in my view, are looking for a conventional soap opera) .... EK herself has used the adjective "dark" for the Seymour scenario...I think she has my back on this. But...never forget...Seymour will look out for Lena's parents...that has to count for something.

According to your posts I think your tastes are darker than mine for Lena. I do think that the possibility of Seymour using Lena's beauty to further his business empire can work but I think that would fit best if they have a poor relationship/she was reluctant to sign.

I'm not sure how Ian would fit into Lena's modeling sessions because it's possible for them to be just friends. Are you interested in how awkward they could be around each other?

I wonder if the "dark" tone that was mentioned is more focused on the mental and not the physical. Is Lena vulnerable to people with dominant personalities and if she isn't careful she's at risk of losing herself to their idea of what she should be?

 

[SearingFive]

Seymour can have some diverging paths in how he uses Lena further down the road.

• He can keep her for himself as a sole trophy. {slave(muse)/mind break}
• Show off the trophy to gain leverage over competition in the snob circle. (look but don't touch) (blackmail) (seductress/temptress).
• Share the trophy and gain leverage over competition in the snob circle. (blackmail/high-end escort/yacht party girl)

I don't think so Lena will have a freewill option when she is in too deep with Seymour.

 

[Xupuzulla]

I don't think so Lena will have a freewill option when she is in too deep with Seymour.

And thats why the Seymour and Axel paths work well together,because in both Lena just gives control to others.

 

[Andrea9999]

According to your posts I think your tastes are darker than mine for Lena. I do think that the possibility of Seymour using Lena's beauty to further his business empire can work but I think that would fit best if they have a poor relationship/she was reluctant to sign.

I wonder if the "dark" tone that was mentioned is more focused on the mental and not the physical. Is Lena vulnerable to people with dominant personalities and if she isn't careful she's at risk of losing herself to their idea of what she should be?

Yes...a bit darker than yours. Absolutely mental as opposed to physical.

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And so I want her fundamental master to be her own compulsion to submission which I find erotic. Outright rape to me is a turn off and that would be similar to her being blackmailed. As I mentioned above, I explored that path and discarded it.
Also, I have, Lena's intelligence and charisma maximized to give what I consider to be an erotic contrast between that and her slavish submission.
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I'm not sure how Ian would fit into Lena's modeling sessions because it's possible for them to be just friends. Are you interested in how awkward they could be around each other?
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If they are just friends, then I see no participation with Ian. One of my saves is where Lena is celibate except for a relationship with Holly. In another, I have her in a loving relationship with Ian. In that one, Lena has also given Ian's manuscript to Seymour. Here, Seymour can get leverage on both and after a suitable time of subjecting Lena to more and more erotically demeaning solo exhibitions with numerous spectators and controllers brought in...Ian can be brought into the mix and be forced into subjecting his beloved Lena to depravities that increase in intensity on a very gradual basis...so that Ian's love is very gradually eclipsed by his lust...otherwise...how can his penis be hard?

Seymour can have some diverging paths in how he uses Lena further down the road.

• Share the trophy and gain leverage over competition in the snob circle. (blackmail/high-end escort/yacht party girl)

I don't think so Lena will have a freewill option when she is in too deep with Seymour.

I think this path would be most promising. Picardo; you amaze me. Aything can happen on a yacht. That route can wind up darker than the Dubai arc. And yes...Lena has only one or zero "will" points in my saved games.

And thats why the Seymour and Axel paths work well together,because in both Lena just gives control to others.

While I definitely agree, as I have mentioned before I personally have a turnoff where Axel is concerned. Nevertheless I will, in the future, try to include him with Seymour so as not to appear closed minded to people in this thread. Axel, unlike Ian, will want to subject Lena to the grossest of indignities, immediately throwing Lena off the deep end like....

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I think Seymour would be too soft a controller; we would need to have Agnes in charge.

 

[SearingFive]

Anything can happen on a yacht. That route can wind up darker than the Dubai arc. And yes...Lena has only one or zero "will" points in my saved games.

Yacht scenes are the most degen places a model gets invited to. Fun fact Meghan Markle was a yacht party girl before being picked up by Prince Harry. You can check out Tom Bower's book.
IKR, 'will' points play such a crucial role. With nothing left, it's all downhill for Lena or Ian if he gets dragged into it.

 

[Andrea9999]

Yacht scenes are the most degen places a model gets invited to. Fun fact Meghan Markle was a yacht party girl before being picked up by Prince Harry. You can check out Tom Bower's book.
IKR, 'will' points play such a crucial role. With nothing left, it's all downhill for Lena or Ian if he gets dragged into it.

Once on the yacht...it sounds like anything goes....after all, when things go too far... where can a girl run? They just go too far. If Ian gets involved....an erotic awkwardness will develop between them...they will become

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[SearingFive]

Once on the yacht...it sounds like anything goes....after all, when things go too far... where can a girl run? They just go too far. If Ian gets involved....an erotic awkwardness will develop between them...they will become

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Ash getting killed off in GGGB was pretty dark. I hope Lena doesn't meet the same fate with OD or murder.
Interesting representation of Baphomet.

 

[Andrea9999]

Ash getting killed off in GGGB was pretty dark. I hope Lena doesn't meet the same fate with OD or murder.
Interesting representation of Baphomet.

My first play of GGGB ended that way. Then I did one where Eva saved her. I think an OD or murder would be a let down. I am keeping my Lena with no drugs, no smoking, and one I believe with no alcohol as well.

 

[SearingFive]

My first play of GGGB ended that way. Then I did one where Eva saved her. I think an OD or murder would be a let down. I am keeping my Lena with no drugs, no smoking, and one I believe with no alcohol as well.

Eva helping Ash came out as a surprise for me and I laughed so hard. Yeah, same here for me; no drugs for Lena on any runs.
Didn't make Lena smoke too, but it's so hypocritical of me coz I am a smoker.

 

[Raizel101]

I got you,bro.

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Amazing. lol

 

[Krysis_here]

Amazing. lol

Ivy looks always Amazing with her Fierce Hot, Horny look on her Eyes

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[Samuel Hidayat]

To be fair Ivy is biased against Cindy because she thinks she deserved the spot. Cindy may be a newbie but she must have some Xfactor that the decision makers at Wildcats can see.

I always thought that Axel said the agency was looking for A new model for their new campaign. So if they were looking to hire just one model and it seems that he suggested both and they went with Cindy.

Axel said Wildcats was looking for an elegant and clean model for their new catalogue. Ivy is too slutty and daring for that.

Of course, that came out of Axel's mouth, so don't take it raw.

 

[SearingFive]

Axel said Wildcats was looking for an elegant and clean model for their new catalogue.

Wait, did Axel say that? In which chapter?
Edit - Ok, nvm I found it.

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All I remember is that Agnes and Seymour both complain about Lena's piercing and tell her to remove it before the shoot. So they are against piercing it seems. Also, Seymour bemoaned Lena's tats but eventually came around it and told her it looked distinctive.

RIP sophisticated Ivy

 

[Leongen43]

Axel said Wildcats was looking for an elegant and clean model for their new catalogue. Ivy is too slutty and daring for that.

Of course, that came out of Axel's mouth, so don't take it raw.

You're right, Axel was never going to help Ivy, the promises were false and his only objective was to be back in Lena's life. For Axel she is a cheap prostitute who he would never support to be a model, that's why when Cindy appears she is realized that it was used by Axel, don't you seriously think there are more than enough reasons to kill Axel's shitty Neanderthal if the option presents itself?

 

[Krysis_here]

You're right, Axel was never going to help Ivy, the promises were false and his only objective was to be back in Lena's life. For Axel she is a cheap prostitute who he would never support to be a model, that's why when Cindy appears she is realized that it was used by Axel, don't you seriously think there are more than enough reasons to kill Axel's shitty Neanderthal if the option presents itself?

We can't Kill Axel with Acid though as we know he is Toxic so It might Won't work on him. So What else? Should We Keep Lola girl at work to Scratch his Balls? What will be the Outcome will it turn Axel into Cry baby?

 

[Andrea9999]

I kept all of my Lenas free of tattoos and piercings.

 

[floor1]

¿Cuándo sale la nueva actualización? Quiero hacer un batido de ganso a mano cambiada.

 

[SearingFive]

I kept all of my Lenas free of tattoos and piercings.

I liked the sakura and the crane on her thigh though, looks good on her.

Other tats not so much TBH and no piercing.


Bruh Google translate is drunk asf