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Those celibate dudes do not stand a chance. Lena would suck them dryyyyyy.Lena needs a young priest and an old priest.
Those celibate dudes do not stand a chance. Lena would suck them dryyyyyy.Lena needs a young priest and an old priest.
You are absolutely right. This is why Lola is best girl and it is okay for her to be in a relationship with me.You guysss, looks doesn't matter it's the inner beauty that matters and Holly is showing it to us.![]()
I dunno, Lola seems to be uptight "no fun allowed" type.This is why Lola is best girl
...which one?I love leading the neckbeard on.
No, Lola is the "You're not worthy of my fun" type.I dunno, Lola seems to be uptight "no fun allowed" type.![]()
It's not just my opinion. Regardless of the mechanics of the game, Eva's dialogue doesn't back up what you say. Ivy's belief of Lena's real position with Axel, contradicts what your claiming. That's not what I believe, it's what the Dev is saying herself. That is the real starting position, and it demonstrates that Lena begins in an ambivalent position as regards her true relationship with Axel. She believes that she hates Axel, because he's hurt her badly, and she's very angry with him. But the truth is, she hasn't yet made up her mind whether she hates him, and only the player's subsequent choices can determine this. Because why else, would Eva include that scene in Chapter 1, where Ivy casts doubt on Lena's real feelings about Axel, by claiming that she still hasn't moved on?I'm talking about Lena's position encoded by mechanics of the game. If you're going to just disregard it and assign your own preference to her with nothing but "she believes this but she's wrong and she actually has no stance whatsoever" then this is pointless debate.
Also, "she believes this is her position" as implication that's not the actual case is pretty much sophistry -- the belief is what determines one's position. If i believe Robert is a piece of shit worthy of nothing but scorn then that is my position on Robert and not "something i think but i actually don't".
No, in reality Lena does have position which the player can influence and overturn with their choices. Just like Holly has her own initial mindset which can be influenced and changed.
Note that it would be just as easy for the game to start with Lena's desire for Axel to be active, and only to be deactivated if she chooses to destroy his pictures (or retained if she doesn't) The outcome would be the same as far as Lena/Axel is concerned, and it'd be a better match for this idea that Lena is supposedly conflicted about Axel. So the fact this is not the case and Lena starts without such urge likely reflects what is her initial, actual stance on this matter.
Just because Ivy says that doesn't mean this is objective truth -- Ivy has shown herself to be manipulative, and there's speculations she's actively working to get Lena back with Axel, either because she believes this is actually good for Lena, or due to more nefarious/selfish motives.
What version of the game are you playing and on which platform?Hi, anyone with this holly error in later chapters? From what ive seen it happens when she changes her hair only.
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No, it is. Your whole argument that Ivy's words are objective truth and position of the author as opposed to opinion of a character in the story is just that, your opinion. I mean, what are you basing it on?It's not just my opinion. (...)
Because that's what Ivy thinks. Or because it's what Ivy wants Lena to think. Characters in the story express their beliefs on subjects, but these views can be mistaken. Or do you believe that Axel is nothing but a nice guy and also a product of Nazi engineering, because that's what Lena's mother and Perry say about him, respectively? After all, we can use your own logic here -- if these aren't also truths then why were their opinions included in the story, too? Right?Because why else, would Eva include that scene in Chapter 1, where Ivy casts doubt on Lena's real feelings about Axel, by claiming that she still hasn't moved on?
This is evidently false. In a scenario where Lena develops her desire for Axel and then confesses to Ivy she's conflicted about her cheating on Ian with him, Ivy encourages her it's perfectly fine to just fuck them both, as opposed to trying to put a stop to it.Even when Lena has sex with him, and admits that she still has a strong attraction to him, Ivy doesn't encourage her at all.
I think that Lena's feelings on Axel are more complex than just an on/off thing. We could say that she's still affected by her relationship with him, that much I think is canon. It's up to the player to choose how that effect manifests in Lena behaviour. It's kind of the same as Ian with Gillian, but Lena's story is better developed so far IMO.No, it is. Your whole argument that Ivy's words are objective truth and position of the author as opposed to opinion of a character in the story is just that, your opinion. I mean, what are you basing it on?
Because that's what Ivy thinks. Or because it's what Ivy wants Lena to think. Characters in the story express their beliefs on subjects, but these views can be mistaken. Or do you believe that Axel is nothing but a nice guy and also a product of Nazi engineering, because that's what Lena's mother and Perry say about him, respectively? After all, we can use your own logic here -- if these aren't also truths then why were their opinions included in the story, too? Right?
This is evidently false. In a scenario where Lena develops her desire for Axel and then confesses to Ivy she's conflicted about her cheating on Ian with him, Ivy encourages her it's perfectly fine to just fuck them both, as opposed to trying to put a stop to it.
Well obviously she's still being affected when her ex-boyfriend is hounding her down and trying to force himself back in her life despite repeatedly being told not to. But it doesn't mean "she just thinks she hates him but no, she actually isn't". And the possibility of Lena eventually changing her stance if you batter her enough against her will doesn't mean there wasn't a period where she genuinely just hated the motherfucker and wanted him out of her life forever.I think that Lena's feelings on Axel are more complex than just an on/off thing. We could say that she's still affected by her relationship with him, that much I think is canon.
An out of context question, as Ian can we beat the shit out of Axel in the tournament?? If yes then i'll be really happyWell obviously she's still being affected when her ex-boyfriend is hounding her down and trying to force himself back in her life despite repeatedly being told not to. But it doesn't mean "she just thinks she hates him but no, she actually isn't". And the possibility of Lena eventually changing her stance if you batter her enough against her will doesn't mean there wasn't a period where she genuinely just hated the motherfucker and wanted him out of her life forever.