VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.13.3.4] [Eva Kiss]

[BlandChili]

Not that it matters to the discussion or at all but EK did explain in a Patreon Q&A a couple years ago why she turned Billy white. The reasoning however was really poor. If memory serves it was something along the lines of "there's already a black character in the game" or that she didn't want it to be too similar to GGGB with the playboy black dude and his friend spitroasting white girls. Her answer was posted on this thread at the time but I can't find it. As for the change itself, hey at least it didn't take like 6 months to basically only change a character's appearance amirite Stan

It happened right after Alison could get into a threesome with him and Jeremy and the collective fandom started frothing at the mouth over it (for various reasons). So that tracks.

 

[NewSeal]

It happened right after Alison could get into a threesome with him and Jeremy and the collective fandom started frothing at the mouth over it (for various reasons). So that tracks.

Yeah I remember Alison's threesome with Jeremy at first being with black Billy, before his rework. Didn't think that many people cared though, as his personality was unchanged and he's a minor side character so does it really matter if the dude is black or white lol

 

[BlandChili]

Yeah I remember Alison's threesome with Jeremy at first being with black Billy, before his rework. Didn't think that many people cared though, as his personality was unchanged and he's a minor side character so does it really matter if the dude is black or white lol

A large segment of Eva's patreon supporters are into the BBC kink so yeah it did matter in the sense of the optics Eva wanted to avoid, whatever her reason for that is. Just look at the last character poll where a dude like Marcel, a character without a real personality or presence in the story, got into the top half of most liked male characters. And that's with the bland and sexually unimpressive Jeremy in first place too.

I don't doubt Eva will fulfill the kink but it's pretty clear she didn't want Billy's race to stand as an implication that the kink would happen through him.

 

[DS1Q]

And that's with the bland and sexually unimpressive Jeremy in first place too.

The funny thing is that Jeremy is likeable enough bro/friend character and he works well as that character. So he is fun presence on other routes specially if you want him to succeed with Ivy.

Feels like Marcel on the other hand only exists for the kink, it was kind of interesting for him to be into Holly but then the first scene is with him and Lena so it just became tired and boring.

 

[BlandChili]

The funny thing is that Jeremy is likeable bro/friend character and he works really well as that character.
So he is fun presence on other routes specially if you want him to succeed with Ivy.

Fair enough, maybe my perspective is different as a woman, I don't really find him that interesting as a friend to Ian either, but that might be impacted by how he treats Louise early on. That of course is seen through Lena's pov so not relevant for Ian to the same degree.

Feels like Marcel on the other hand only exists for the kink, it was kind of interesting for him to be into Holly but then the first scene is with him and Lena so it just became tired and boring.

Yeah it also felt a bit forced how it just popped up randomly. I'm not too offended by him as a casual sexual option, but that's mostly because I have so many objections to Lena's other male options.

 

[DS1Q]

Fair enough, maybe my perspective is different as a woman, I don't really find him that interesting as a friend to Ian either, but that might be impacted by how he treats Louise early on. That of course is seen through Lena's pov so not relevant for Ian to the same degree.

Yeah, I was mostly talking about Ian's perspective. He is a piece of shit on Lena's perspective that's absolutely true.

Yeah it also felt a bit forced how it just popped up randomly. I'm not too offended by him as a casual sexual option, but that's mostly because I have so many objections to Lena's other male options.

Its just absurd how terrible most of Lena's choices are when the best people are Ian if you decide to play him as a decent person and maybe Stan who is one moment away from becoming complete incel.

 

[BlandChili]

I think I'd be more impressed with Jeremy if he actually stuck to his guns and refused to get with Lena when he knows she's with Ian. That'd close off a cheating option to other people who enjoys that content, but I think it'd have done somewhat of a service to Jeremy's character if he could actually stay true to his professed boundary of not messing with his bros romantic interests.

 

[SearingFive]

I think I'd be more impressed with Jeremy if he actually stuck to his guns and refused to get with Lena when he knows she's with Ian. That'd close off a cheating option to other people who enjoys that content, but I think it'd have done somewhat of a service to Jeremy's character if he could actually stay true to his professed boundary of not messing with his bros romantic interests.

If Lena doesn't have bbc or big dick kink, during spin the bottle game if you continue till pulling the pants down for Jeremy. He will automatically stop Lena from pulling his pants down if she's dating Ian.

 

[BlandChili]

If Lena doesn't have bbc or big dick kink, during spin the bottle game if you continue till pulling the pants down for Jeremy. He will automatically stop Lena from pulling his pants down if she's dating Ian.

It's still a conditional state that he will break with the right conditions, which makes it meaningless to me.

 

[SearingFive]

It's still a conditional state that he will break with the right conditions, which makes it meaningless to me.

Same goes for Lena too, she's the one who's willing to do it. It's a lust option.

 

[BlandChili]

Same goes for Lena too, she's the one who's willing to do it. It's a lust option.

Of course, but we're talking about Jeremy as Ian's friend here. Of course there are conditions in which Lena could have sex with him. If he couldn't be swayed however, assuming Lena and Ian are romantically involved, that'd really sell him to me as an actual friend, since he would stay true to the one and only moral stance he claims in the whole game.

 

[SerHawkes]

...if you want him to succeed with Ivy.

Why though...

 

[Nifferman]

No one really cares about Seymour it seems. Cuz this is the first time it's been delayed this much to get leaked

 

[Christ P Bacon]

who is this seymour dude you guys are talking about

 

[DS1Q]

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Why though...

I mean I like to play a character role and that's how i approach the game. If it makes sense for Ian to be a certain way with how I played him in a particular save file, I would help Jeremy out.

 

[SerHawkes]

who is this seymour dude you guys are talking about

His name is Geymour, borderline egocunt douche attempt character ment to "corrupt" Lena by baring her from work and such. Problem is though, despite EKs blantant love for the guy and how she has tried to hype him up, he is one of the most uninteresting characters in the game.

 

[SerHawkes]

I mean I like to play a character role and that's how i approach the game. If it makes sense for Ian to be a certain way with how I played him in a particular save file, I would help Jeremy out.

To each there own I guess...

 

[desmosome]

Of course, but we're talking about Jeremy as Ian's friend here. Of course there are conditions in which Lena could have sex with him. If he couldn't be swayed however, assuming Lena and Ian are romantically involved, that'd really sell him to me as an actual friend, since he would stay true to the one and only moral stance he claims in the whole game.

Then the people who want that fucked up cheating situation will be left out. Jeremy's sins are a direct result of the player overriding his tendency to try and be a bro. So he can be a bro if the player plays reasonably on Lena's side. It's kind of fucked up to blame the mother fucker after playing Lena as a BBC loving cheating slut lol. The game denying the player that possibility at that point would be like blue balling the player, so Jeremy's bro code has to suffer.

 

[SerHawkes]

No one really cares about Seymour it seems. Cuz this is the first time it's been delayed this much to get leaked

Either... It's THAT BAD of a release/that short of one OR no one wants to shill 20-35 bucks for an Alpha that has only Geymour involved. I'll go out on a limb and say both.

 

[SearingFive]

Then the people who want that fucked up cheating situation will be left out. Jeremy's sins are a direct result of the player overriding his tendency to try and be a bro. So he can be a bro if the player plays reasonably on Lena's side. It's kind of fucked up to blame the mother fucker after playing Lena as a BBC loving cheating slut lol. The game denying the player that possibility at that point would be like blue balling the player, so Jeremy's bro code has to suffer.

Exactly, it's all about the player inputs. Make Lena a slut she will be treated like a slut.