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You can crank up vanilla up to 11 and play Lena as a complete celibate, too. Or as a born anew lesbian.
Exactly. You can have completely vanilla Lena, so there's no real basis to claim that she's more and/or "too adventurous for Ian". Lena in your playthrough, maybe. But she can be as much vanilla as Ian, it's all up to the player. For that matter, Ian can be a total fuckboy who more than matches "adventurous Lena" and cheats on her left and right.

We also have a confirmation from the story that she used to wear a dog collar and crawl around in Axel apartment on all fours, playing a coffee table for him, willing to go to any length and undertake any "training" to please him. We don't know that much about Cherry though. Maybe this is why he puts on an ice wall performance for her, because she didn't bend enough to his will.
Oh, you think that Axel and Cherry only had missionary sex under sheets and with lights turned off? Is this the vibe you get from her, when Ian can go balls deep in her ass on their first or second hookup and she's more than happy to let him?

Axel doesn't obsess over Cherry the way he does over Lena because she didn't run away from him like Lena did, but was instead hoping to become next Lena. While knowing full well what that entailed.

Our wanna-be dommy boy can't stand getting spurned, it's plainly visible and simple as that.
 

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Exactly. You can have completely vanilla Lena, so there's no real basis to claim that she's more and/or too adventurous for Ian". Lena in your playthrough, maybe. But she can be as much vanilla as Ian, it's all up to the player. For that matter, Ian can be a total fuckboy who more than matches "adventurous Lena" and cheats on her left and right.
I would point out though that more of Ian's relationships has the promise of romance to them. He can be building cute romances with practically all his girls so far, yet Lena is only able to do similar with him or with Holly. In that way Lena comes across as less "vanilla" I guess.
 

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This has been the longest that an update has not dropped on F95 after release. Eva is getting really good at dealing with piracy it seems.
No not ture if you are talking about all games on general I knew games they released here after 2 weeks to month and some until the dev drop copy means months if they wish example (bmo TV, therapy....) and yes this update taking longer than last ones they was nearly instantly
 
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Oh, you think that Axel and Cherry only had missionary sex under sheets and with lights turned off?
Eskimo kisses only! He was probably busy mating press her into abyss, making her frame print into a mattress, but that again, only a guess. That doesn't spurn me that much from a character, I'll be honest, same goes for Lena. I'm much more disgusted by a particular display of "encouraged" Holly, when she blows what's his name balding guy from the office. After that, in the scenario when she approaches Ian at the beach house, I only wanted to stake her, medieval style, right next to the veggie hamburgers or whatever they were cooking there.
 
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Eskimo kisses only! He was probably busy mating press her into abyss, making her frame print into a mattress, but that again, only a guess. That doesn't spurn me that much from a character, I'll be honest, same goes for Lena. I'm much more disgusted by a particular display of "encouraged" Holly, when she blows what's his name balding guy from the office. After that, in the scenario when she approaches Ian at the beach house, I only wanted to stake her, medieval style, right next to the veggie hamburgers or whatever they were cooking there.
Wait you're upset at Holly for doing something that you have to initiate?
 

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Wait you're upset at Holly for doing something that you have to initiate?
That Ivy/Lena corruption of Holly path doesn't exactly comes prepackaged with a detailed description of what's going to happen, yes, one could expect she gets on the pole, Ivy goes full Major Payne on her coochie with her arsenal of toys and Holly opens up about wanting to suck dragons or whatnot, but the first time Ivy sends Lena some pictures of Holly with the Big Tuna guy I was like oh hell no and was set to trying to figure out a way to make her go that way, with the adequately high holly_change variable, but without this particular thing occurring. It's a wild ride, I'll tell you that, so far my conclusion is at the mild variation Tuna still gets to feel her up somewhat, so now in my main save Holly stays home, far away from the sinful ways of the world or anything remotely like that.
 

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That Ivy/Lena corruption of Holly path doesn't exactly comes prepackaged with a detailed description of what's going to happen, yes, one could expect she gets on the pole, Ivy goes full Major Payne on her coochie with her arsenal of toys and Holly opens up about wanting to suck dragons or whatnot, but the first time Ivy sends Lena some pictures of Holly with the Big Tuna guy I was like oh hell no and was set to trying to figure out a way to make her go that way, with the adequately high holly_change variable, but without this particular thing occurring. It's a wild ride, I'll tell you that, so far my conclusion is at the mild variation Tuna still gets to feel her up somewhat, so now in my main save Holly stays home, far away from the sinful ways of the world or anything remotely like that.
Nah let Holly join in pole dancing to increase her confidence. Lena just needs to keep Ivy from having too much influence on her. Ivy has always been very sexual so it was pretty obvious the direction she would try and take Holly to find her confidence. I was shocked tho about how open Holly was to Kiss Ivy when Lena returned from her parents. The only reason I redid the Lena/Holly/Ivy path is because it blocks the Lena/Holly romance.
 
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Meaning, the game might become a GGGB copy. A vanilla game will never be Eva's thing.
Here is the grandious thing: EK specifcally wanted NOT to make another GGGB copy. She wanted to create a new story and likely broaden her field of writing. Which, for the first 6 chapters, was going well, a little bland but had promise.

Then came the reworks. Wade got reworked to having a job to not having one, which made no sense on why that changed happened. Then we got the famously imfamous "Stan Update", that was touted to change and add on to Stans character, only for nothing to be changed at all. Which also came a full rework with the Prologue, which again NO ONE ASKED FOR.

And yet, despite saying and claiming via the FaQs that ORS 'isn't gonna turn into another GGGB', thats exactly what EK has turned this game into, while continually lying about pairings that have yet to given there due. It is truly and utterly astounding how botched this game has been, with continued empty promises, failed delieveries, all for the sake of catering to fetishist money traps.
 
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SerHawkes

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you mean less kinks? GGGB was real wild
Considering were are supposedly 13 chapters into either a 16(if so, fuck this game entirely for how miss managed it has been) to 20 chapter fuck fest of likely more NTR, cucking, Andreas wet dream of Dubai and Tokyo slave route or whatever bullshit, it will be More, not less.
 

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you mean less kinks? GGGB was real wild
I do not agree. It was just sex with very little erotica in my view. I liked it more for the humor; like Ashley showing up for a job interview in a "thug life" outfit and the like.

Here is the grandious thing: EK specifcally wanted NOT to make another GGGB copy. She wanted to create a new story and likely broaden her field of writing. Which, for the first 6 chapters, was going well, a little bland but had promise.

Then came the reworks....
I am a little curious as to what it was like back then. I looked back to when I first started posting and realize that it was during chapter 11 that I first began to play.
Considering were are supposedly 13 chapters into either a 16(if so, fuck this game entirely for how miss managed it has been) to 20 chapter fuck fest of likely more NTR, cucking, Andreas wet dream of Dubai and Tokyo slave route or whatever bullshit, it will be More, not less.
It could be that EK is writing very slowly so as not to spoil an erotic adventure. It is much easier to lazily throw in a shallow sex fest than to slowly tease your way in the mind gaming fashion that the LSD arc demands.

Btw, SerHawkes , while I respect your wanting to see a Tokyo slave route, I do not believe it is in the cards. If Lena does ever leave Dubai, I fear the final destination will unfortunately, be Bangkok.

edit: I would like to point out, for what it is worth, that when I began the game (chapter 11), the genre listed "light BDSM" whereas now it has been changed to "BDSM".
 

SerHawkes

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I am a little curious as to what it was like back then. I looked back to when I first started posting and realize that it was during chapter 11 that I first began to play.

It could be that EK is writing very slowly so as not to spoil an erotic adventure. It is much easier to lazily throw in a shallow sex fest than to slowly tease your way in the mind gaming fashion that the LSD arc demands.

Btw, SerHawkes , while I respect your wanting to see a Tokyo slave route, I do not believe it is in the cards. If Lena does ever leave Dubai, I fear the final destination will unfortunately, be Bangkok.
Not much has changed from back then until now, with the exception to the reworkings of Stan and Wade, and Billy's whitewashing which to this day hasn't been explained. Ever since around Chapter 6 and the start of the reworkings, things have gone from a story that could have had either Lena vs Geymour or give into it, and Ian go either way with his writing or martial arts, and firmly build up the pairs and characters already in the game (which EK had said in a FaQ that she wasn't going to expand on the cast of characters at the time because there were already too many, lo and behold that turned into a lie) through each chapter, has turned into what we currently see now.

To me, and I'm sure others will agree with me here, EK lost her confidence in her own writing. Rather than stick with her story and give a little pandering here and there and let her story be it's main focus, she stopped doing that and has gone full on 'gotta try and make my patron happy with kink shit'. That's my analysis of what this games turned into.

Also, I don't want to see the Tokyo slave route, or anything involved on that route with Geymour. I want my Lena happy with Holly and my Ian with Ivy and 12 kids. Sadly, that part won't happen any time in the next decade.
 

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Also, I don't want to see the Tokyo slave route, or anything involved on that route with Geymour. I want my Lena happy with Holly and my Ian with Ivy and 12 kids. Sadly, that part won't happen any time in the next decade.
I know that; I was having some fun. Excepting the work load, there is no reason we can't both be satisfied via branching routes. I do not play a porn game for romance.
 
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