Nifferman

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Yeah, I don't get Ivy's motive. I remember in middle school, girls were trying to get me to smoke and use profanity and I was like why would I listen to you? I will do whatever I want to do, nobody can tell me what to do. :KEK:
Well not everyone is that level headed. Holly is desperate to fit in, so she is willing to go to extreme length to show her new frds that she has what it takes to be their equal, and ik a decent amount of people who will go to similar length to prove they are "cool".
 

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It's kinda sad too, Ivy's view of releasing Holly's sexuality is to get Holly to perform sex acts on other people. Why not turn Holly into a man eater (figuratively) that tells men and women how to please her (Holly)?
Because Ivy is a horrible person who only cares about her own pleasure,the end of that scene proves it.
 
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In all these talks about Ivy corrupting Holly, people are not talking about Lena's involvement in the whole ordeal. Lena is just as well a culprit in the slootification of our beloved Innocent geek. She can stand by and watch Ivy consume Holly. She can encourage her to pursue Mark. And to top it all off, she could encourage Holly to embrace her inner slut which without doing, Ivy would not be as successful in corrupting Holly to the state she is in now.
 
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In all these talks about Ivy corrupting Holly, people are not talking about Lena's involvement in the whole ordeal. Lena is just as well a culprit in the slootification of our beloved Innocent geek. She can stand by and watch Ivy consume Holly. She can encourage her to pursue Mark. And to top it all off, she could encourage Holly to embrace her inner slut which without doing, Ivy would not be as successful in corrupting Holly to the state she is in now.
Stop blaming other for the viper crimes,that whole drugged scene has only one culprit and her name is Ivy FUCKING Feynman:mad:
 

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It's kinda sad too, Ivy's view of releasing Holly's sexuality is to get Holly to perform sex acts on other people. Why not turn Holly into a man eater (figuratively) that tells men and women how to please her (Holly)?
The threads I follow are quite slow. I think that part of it is that corruption also plays into degradation. Is not about a shy girl being more confident and sexually reliased, is about degrading Holly, have the accomplish writer and romantic girl turned into a hole to be used.
 

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The threads I follow are quite slow. I think that part of it is that corruption also plays into degradation. Is not about a shy girl being more confident and sexually reliased, is about degrading Holly, have the accomplish writer and romantic girl turned into a hole to be used.
That's the crux. Ivy is bringing Holly down to her level, not helping Holly become the unfettered and inspirational version of herself. And I'm not even sure if Ivy knows there's a difference. Ivy has cunning, but no core wisdom or values. Just passing fancies and games to play, and she prefers to use others as pieces first.

(I prefer a sexual awakening over corruption any day)
 

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With how often the touchy issue of cumming inside Alison comes up during her sex scenes, I wonder if one of her endings will be getting her pregnant? Also, her getting knocked up by Jeremy and becoming a single mother if you're not dating her would be hilarious.
 

LHDLLB

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That's the crux. Ivy is bringing Holly down to her level, not helping Holly become the unfettered and inspirational version of herself. And I'm not even sure if Ivy knows there's a difference. Ivy has cunning, but no core wisdom or values. Just passing fancies and games to play, and she prefers to use others as pieces first.

(I prefer a sexual awakening over corruption any day)
It may sound crazy but I don't think she does. I really think that in her mind she is helping Holly, it does not make her right but it does make her a more complex character. Yeah, not a big fan of corruption either, but I can indulge in it sometimes.
 

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(I prefer a sexual awakening over corruption any day)
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With how often the touchy issue of cumming inside Alison comes up during her sex scenes, I wonder if one of her endings will be getting her pregnant? Also, her getting knocked up by Jeremy and becoming a single mother if you're not dating her would be hilarious.
I think she have a breeding kink, but I wouldn't mind her becoming pregnant either with Ian dating her or not. If Allison wants to be a single mom and have the money, she just needs the sperm.
 
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This may be unpopular but I don't like all the GGGB characters showing up in ORS. Jessica was fine, more so in her bad version, because we get to see how the lifestyle ruined her. But then Nat shows up for no reason, and then... well, it's too much.

Also Gillian should have appeared earlier in the story, she should have always been present like Axel for Lena. Mostly because the character model is so attractive that it's a waste not to have a bunch of sex scenes with it. :p
 

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It's more that she's begging you to cum in her during sex, then immediately has a panic attack after you do, because she's not on the pill and hates the morning after pill. So the scenario I was envisioning was an accidental pregnancy from how irresponsible Alison and Ian get in the heat of the moment.
 
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Also Gillian should have appeared earlier in the story, she should have always been present like Axel for Lena. Mostly because the character model is so attractive that it's a waste not to have a bunch of sex scenes with it. :p
Agreed... Axel makes some sort of sense as he turns up and not only fucks like a shire-horse but also acts as a gatekeeper to the modelling profession so you can *see* why Lena would feel tempted to go back to old patterns. It's not just the sex, it's also the money and the security etc

Gillian exerts much less of a psychological pull. Ian literally starts browsing her images in between hook-ups with beautiful women and there's not very much about her so you, as a player, don't really see the strings that bind Ian to her. She's easy to move past whereas Axel is not.

I'm just not sure what purpose Gillian is serving at this point... I assume there were plans to involve her more as a kind of parallel to Axel but Eva moved away from them or couldn't find a way to make them work.
 
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Hungover00

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It's more that she's begging you to cum in her during sex, then immediately has a panic attack after you do, because she's not on the pill and hates the morning after pill. So the scenario I was envisioning was an accidental pregnancy from how irresponsible Alison and Ian get in the heat of the moment.
Horny brain often likes risk taking, and really likes baby making risks. It's the one outside purpose all living things are programmed with, make copies. Humans have managed to take a lot of that control back, to not let that rule them, but evolution created a back door for lust to hack through. I kind of hope Alison comes to terms with both sides of herself, gets an IUD (or something) and leans really hard into the breeding kink. Safe, and sexy!
 

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Agreed... Axel makes some sort of sense as he turns up and not only fucks like a shire-horse but also acts as a gatekeeper to the modelling profession so you can *see* why Lena would feel tempted to go back to old patterns. It's not just the sex, it's also the money and the security etc

Gillian exerts much less of a psychological pull. Ian literally starts browsing her images in between hook-ups with beautiful women and there's not very much about her so you, as a player, don't really see the strings that bind Ian to her. She's easy to move past whereas Axel is not.

I'm just not sure what purpose Gillian is serving at this point... I assume there were plans to involve her more as a kind of parallel to Axel but Eva moved away from them or couldn't find a way to make them work.
Is there any real content for Gillian other than when they bump into each other? I never followed her back, or kept her photos around, that I can recall.
 

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Gillian exerts much less of a psychological pull. Ian literally starts browsing her images in between hook-ups with beautiful women and there's not very much about her so you, as a player, don't really see the strings that bind Ian to her. She's easy to move past whereas Axel is not.
Gillian to Ian is effectively what Lena is to Axel -- she's "the girl who got away" (although unlike Lena/Axel probably not due to Ian's fault). So the player gets the choice to either move on, or keep obsessing over her and wanting her back in his life, even if that's seemingly not what Gillian wants.
 

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Agreed... Axel makes some sort of sense as he turns up and not only fucks like a shire-horse but also acts as a gatekeeper to the modelling profession so you can *see* why Lena would feel tempted to go back to old patterns. It's not just the sex, it's also the money and the security etc

Gillian exerts much less of a psychological pull. Ian literally starts browsing her images in between hook-ups with beautiful women and there's not very much about her so you, as a player, don't really see the strings that bind Ian to her. She's easy to move past whereas Axel is not.

I'm just not sure what purpose Gillian is serving at this point... I assume there were plans to involve her more as a kind of parallel to Axel but Eva moved away from them or couldn't find a way to make them work.
I wonder if Gillian will somehow be tied up with the book contest? A professional and romantic complication, perhaps also a gatekeeper. George Lucas would like it, it rhymes.../s
 
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I wonder if instead of another cheating story would it have been better from a story perspective if the reason for Gil leaving could be because she got cold feet right before their wedding. It would add extra weight to why her leaving hurt Ian so much, his hang-up over moving on and help make it more palatable for the two to get back together.
 

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I wonder if instead of another cheating story would it have been better from a story perspective if the reason for Gil leaving could be because she got cold feet right before their wedding. It would add extra weight to why her leaving hurt Ian so much, his hang-up over moving on and help make it more palatable for the two to get back together.
Not really. Some people need therepy and their whole damn world ends because a gf left or a bf cheated. It's perfectly realistic as it is lol.
 
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