AndreDA

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The whole "Gillian left me, I can't get over it" storyline would hit a lot harder if she left him for one of his friends, and both of them were present in the story. You could make Gillian appear in every chapter almost like a spectre haunting Ian, and the male friend could be present in the story as a rival (instead of Robert, lol), maybe culminating by being the final opponent in the MMA tournament, or the book competition, or both.
 

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The whole "Gillian left me, I can't get over it" storyline would hit a lot harder if she left him for one of his friends, and both of them were present in the story. You could make Gillian appear in every chapter almost like a spectre haunting Ian, and the male friend could be present in the story as a rival (instead of Robert, lol), maybe culminating by being the final opponent in the MMA tournament, or the book competition, or both.
Feels more high-school than mid 20s type of drama, imo. A few more crossings of paths could have helped though.
 

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Feels more high-school than mid 20s type of drama, imo. A few more crossings of paths could have helped though.
Ian is an intern supported by his parents and is writing some silly fantasy book. Perry and Wade spend their days playing video games and refusing to grow up. Emma is still going through her rebellious phase. Cindy seems like an ice queen bitch straight from a high school drama. Despite all the "look how we've aged" talk during their get togethers in the Fortress, it seems like they barely aged mentally at all. Only Alison seems like an adult.
 

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How do I make this bish happy as Lena? :cautious: I managed to get 5 relationship with her but I need over 5 for the second option to unlock...petulant brat
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Hungover00

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Ian is an intern supported by his parents and is writing some silly fantasy book. Perry and Wade spend their days playing video games and refusing to grow up. Emma is still going through her rebellious phase. Cindy seems like an ice queen bitch straight from a high school drama. Despite all the "look how we've aged" talk during their get togethers in the Fortress, it seems like they barely aged mentally at all. Only Alison seems like an adult.
Ian may be on the cusp of being a brand new hot author, Holly is a published author (an extremely competitive career, and making it professionally as any kind of artist is a huge accomplishment). Perry and Wade are definitely rudderless, but I wouldn't dismiss Emma as being in any kind of 'phase.' She seems like a true believer, an active and beneficial part of the community (with a great ass). Alison is more career oriented and type A, but I don't think she's actually more fully herself than the others, seeing how her personal life is so poorly developed. By those types of measurements, Ivy, Axel, and Jeremy are closest to their 'final' forms.
 

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How do I make this bish happy as Lena? :cautious: I managed to get 5 relationship with her but I need over 5 for the second option to unlock...petulant brat
Refuse to pay the increased rent. Its even easier if you are mean to Stan in general, Louise loves this.
 
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Perry and Wade are definitely rudderless
Wade also had a job until some months (year?) ago, so it's not like he's spent all his time since high school doing nothing. It's only after he lost it that things apparently dissolved, both in his relationship and otherwise. He's probably taken better care of his appearance/fitness too, otherwise Ian wouldn't be so surprised seeing his current form at the beach.
 
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Ivy, Axel, and Jeremy are closest to their 'final' forms.
Ivy and Jeremy will crash and burn like Bad Jess eventually.

Wade also had a job until some months (year?) ago, so it's not like he's spent all his time since high school doing nothing. It's only after he lost it that things apparently dissolved, both in his relationship and otherwise.
Wade is the most insane character in the game actually, how can you have a girlfriend as smoking hot as Cindy and be such a lazy bum is beyond me. I'd understand if he had clinical depression of something, but he seems just fine when hanging out with Perry.
 
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Wade is the most insane character in the game actually, how can you have a girlfriend as smoking hot as Cindy and be such a lazy bum is beyond me. I'd understand if he had clinical depression of something, but he seems just fine when hanging out with Perry.
People have speculated that he might actually be depressed. In fact, i'm not sure but i think Ian can suggest as much to Cindy with high enough Wits? Although maybe i'm remembering it wrong.

As for the insanity of being a lazy bum with hot girlfriend... lot of people stop or at least reduce making effort once they "secure" a partner in relationship. How hot that partner is can make little to no difference. It's the people who don't have smoking hot girlfriends that think they'd never ever start taking things for granted if they had one. :sneaky:
 

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Is there a way to have Jeremy as a candidate for the threesome?
Yes, if Lena has some sexual history with Jeremy he's an option in CH.13. if Ian is on cuck path he'll reluctantly accept this as possibility, otherwise he'll shoot it down.
Python:
                "Jeremy" if lena_jeremy_dating or v8_jeremy_flirt or v7_bbc == "lena":
                    l "How about Jeremy? I think he'd be up for it..."
//...
                    if v12_jeremy_crisis and ian_cuck < 2:
                        i "No way. Not with that guy... I don't like the way you two dealt with things, keeping me in the dark."
                        l "Yeah, I know... I'm sorry about that."
                        if ian_lena > 0:
                            call friend_xp ('ian',-1) from _call_friend_xp_1279
                        i "I'm not comfortable with the situation... Besides, I'm not in good terms with Jeremt right now, so no. You'll have to think of someone else."
                        jump v13mmfchoose1
                    else:
                        $ ian_lena_mmf_guy = "jeremy"
                        i "Jeremy?"
                        l "Yeah. He seems pretty easygoing, and you two get along, right?"
                        if lena_jeremy_dating:
                            if ian_lena_couple_late:
                                i "Well... You've been hooking up with him already..."
                                l "But not anymore. I mean, I'm not gonna fool around with him... Unless you're involved too, of course."
                                i "We could... think about it."
                                l "Great."
                            else:
                                i "Well, you two are already hooking up, right? I guess it makes sense... We could think about it."
                                l "I'm glad you think that way."
                        else:
                            i "I just wasn't expecting you to pick Jeremy. But yeah... I guess we could think about it."
                            l "I'm glad you think that way."
 

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Yes, if Lena has some sexual history with Jeremy he's an option in CH.13. if Ian is on cuck path he'll reluctantly accept this as possibility, otherwise he'll shoot it down.
Python:
                "Jeremy" if lena_jeremy_dating or v8_jeremy_flirt or v7_bbc == "lena":
                    l "How about Jeremy? I think he'd be up for it..."
//...
                    if v12_jeremy_crisis and ian_cuck < 2:
                        i "No way. Not with that guy... I don't like the way you two dealt with things, keeping me in the dark."
                        l "Yeah, I know... I'm sorry about that."
                        if ian_lena > 0:
                            call friend_xp ('ian',-1) from _call_friend_xp_1279
                        i "I'm not comfortable with the situation... Besides, I'm not in good terms with Jeremt right now, so no. You'll have to think of someone else."
                        jump v13mmfchoose1
                    else:
                        $ ian_lena_mmf_guy = "jeremy"
                        i "Jeremy?"
                        l "Yeah. He seems pretty easygoing, and you two get along, right?"
                        if lena_jeremy_dating:
                            if ian_lena_couple_late:
                                i "Well... You've been hooking up with him already..."
                                l "But not anymore. I mean, I'm not gonna fool around with him... Unless you're involved too, of course."
                                i "We could... think about it."
                                l "Great."
                            else:
                                i "Well, you two are already hooking up, right? I guess it makes sense... We could think about it."
                                l "I'm glad you think that way."
                        else:
                            i "I just wasn't expecting you to pick Jeremy. But yeah... I guess we could think about it."
                            l "I'm glad you think that way."
What is the condition for " ian_lena_couple_late " ?
 

tlac

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Also Gillian should have appeared earlier in the story, she should have always been present like Axel for Lena. Mostly because the character model is so attractive that it's a waste not to have a bunch of sex scenes with it. :p
Totally agree. I would so much love to see Gillian in action.
For the rest I like Arthur being part of the show again :cool:
 

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Wade is the most insane character in the game actually, how can you have a girlfriend as smoking hot as Cindy and be such a lazy bum is beyond me. I'd understand if he had clinical depression of something, but he seems just fine when hanging out with Perry.
Wade doesn't have Cindy for long, doesn't he? He loses her in every playthrough, even if Ian tells him to keep his shit together.
Cindy helds on to him on good faith, gives him chances and isn't breaking up because of one single misstep. Even people in abusive relationships that have it significantly worse than Cindy can hold on on their partners. Breaking up and getting a new partner is stressfull and not guaranted (look at Alison), because she is indecisive and wants stability and security. She is only breaking up with Wade as she becomes more and more convinced her new career and friend Axel live up to her standards and seem a safe risk. While I wouldn't say Axel on his own managed to let her breakp up with Wade, he merely sped up the inevitable.

And with Perry, he just relaxes, plays videogames and competes in tournament that are his passion. Even a depressed person barely functioning can be happy in their stressfree comfort zone, even more so if they use it to vent from the stressfull everyday life.
 

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People who are seeing each other, however it starts, still go on dates though. Basically any activity, out and about, with the people in the relationship, can be a date. Even chore dates (shopping/errands) are a bit more than fucking someone at their work, or calling them for a hookup. Ian and Lena walk in the park at least. Go on a mini-beach vacation, hit the club together. No one else even takes her out to a movie or dinner (forgot, rich guy takes her to dinner to grill her about Nitzche), the most cliched of dates. Even Ian seeing Lena at the life drawing class is closer to a date than everyone else, iirc. (haven't played the recent Stan route) I think the point stands that all Lena's male LIs are not treating her well stands.
Axel does take her out to coffee to apologize, but he gives her space after that, since it's framed as the end of their relationship. And it can be, if you/Lena refuse to look at the photos.

Robert takes her out to Shine. He has to leverage saving her job to get her to go out for a drink with him, but by the criteria of 'basically any activity' it counts. He also shows up at her life drawing class. Realistically, Robert might be the closest any of the characters come to being single, available and trying to date her, outside of Ian and Stan, but Lena is the one who only wants him as a fuck piece.

At least lampshade that shit by them not wanting to be caught out, while on a date.
Has critical thinking deteriorated so much that we need the characters to state the obvious for it to be accepted fact/truth? Axel, Jeremy and Mike have no reason to risk taking Lena out on a date, even if they wanted to, so why would they?

Even still, while there are characters who exist purely for sex scenes, they're mostly side characters. When it comes to the main love interests, it's split pretty evenly. Ian, Stan and Robert, who are all single and interested, try to date Lena, and depending on your choices at least either Ian or Stan can be successful. Axel, Mike and Jeremy, who are not single, but still interested, don't go on dates with her, because they have no reason to flaunt the relationship in front of their friends/girlfriends.
 
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Xupuzulla

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The unrealistic part is not Wade dating Cindy(hes supposed the handsome in game,even Ivy says it) the unrealistic part is leaving him for a 1,75 writer who cries about her ex,talk about low standards for your cheating:whistle:
 
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Wade doesn't have Cindy for long, doesn't he? He loses her in every playthrough, even if Ian tells him to keep his shit together.
Cindy helds on to him on good faith, gives him chances and isn't breaking up because of one single misstep. Even people in abusive relationships that have it significantly worse than Cindy can hold on on their partners. Breaking up and getting a new partner is stressfull and not guaranted (look at Alison), because she is indecisive and wants stability and security. She is only breaking up with Wade as she becomes more and more convinced her new career and friend Axel live up to her standards and seem a safe risk. While I wouldn't say Axel on his own managed to let her breakp up with Wade, he merely sped up the inevitable.

And with Perry, he just relaxes, plays videogames and competes in tournament that are his passion. Even a depressed person barely functioning can be happy in their stressfree comfort zone, even more so if they use it to vent from the stressfull everyday life.
Yeah, they don't stick around in any playthrough. If Wade and Cindy have a good relationship flag, then Wade breaks up with her; otherwise, it's Cindy who initiates it.
 
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Hungover00

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Wade also had a job until some months (year?) ago, so it's not like he's spent all his time since high school doing nothing. It's only after he lost it that things apparently dissolved, both in his relationship and otherwise. He's probably taken better care of his appearance/fitness too, otherwise Ian wouldn't be so surprised seeing his current form at the beach.
Absolutely, and if he can find his direction again, I think Wade can bounce back. He just isn't there right now. I assume the breakup will act as a catalyst for him though.
 

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Yes, if Lena has some sexual history with Jeremy he's an option in CH.13. if Ian is on cuck path he'll reluctantly accept this as possibility, otherwise he'll shoot it down.
Python:
                "Jeremy" if lena_jeremy_dating or v8_jeremy_flirt or v7_bbc == "lena":
                    l "How about Jeremy? I think he'd be up for it..."
//...
                    if v12_jeremy_crisis and ian_cuck < 2:
                        i "No way. Not with that guy... I don't like the way you two dealt with things, keeping me in the dark."
                        l "Yeah, I know... I'm sorry about that."
                        if ian_lena > 0:
                            call friend_xp ('ian',-1) from _call_friend_xp_1279
                        i "I'm not comfortable with the situation... Besides, I'm not in good terms with Jeremt right now, so no. You'll have to think of someone else."
                        jump v13mmfchoose1
                    else:
                        $ ian_lena_mmf_guy = "jeremy"
                        i "Jeremy?"
                        l "Yeah. He seems pretty easygoing, and you two get along, right?"
                        if lena_jeremy_dating:
                            if ian_lena_couple_late:
                                i "Well... You've been hooking up with him already..."
                                l "But not anymore. I mean, I'm not gonna fool around with him... Unless you're involved too, of course."
                                i "We could... think about it."
                                l "Great."
                            else:
                                i "Well, you two are already hooking up, right? I guess it makes sense... We could think about it."
                                l "I'm glad you think that way."
                        else:
                            i "I just wasn't expecting you to pick Jeremy. But yeah... I guess we could think about it."
                            l "I'm glad you think that way."
That's a bummer that Ian has to be a cuck for Lena / Ian / Jeremy threesome. I would think that if Ian and Jeremy have a good relationship and have already had their threesome with Allison that Ian would be ok with Jeremy joining him and Lena.
 
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