RC-1138 Boss

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She was one of my fave characters until that.

It just seems she's walking the drugged out cumdumpster line and after a strong start it just feels like a weak way to go.

Then again i've not been impressed much by this as a whole. Lesbian routes are shit, Lena as a whole is the weakest part of the story. Ian's side has far better character interactions and LI's.

I guess after GGGB I was expecting something awesome and this has just been so very "meh".
I am still hoping chapter 8 will actually advance Lena's story other than the corruption route. If not then i guess i will only focus on Ian. His relationship possibilities with Allison, Cindy and even Minerva are great.
 

Avaron1974

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I am still hoping chapter 8 will actually advance Lena's story other than the corruption route. If not then i guess i will only focus on Ian. His relationship possibilities with Allison, Cindy and even Minerva are great.
That's it.

Ian has some great love interests while Lena's are either absolute pricks or an attempt at a Louise route that she completely dismisses as just friends fooling around.

Such a massive letdown.

I enjoy Ian's route and it weirds me out to say that. A lesbian that doesn't like the female MC and prefers the male ... it's like opposites world here.
 

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I am still hoping chapter 8 will actually advance Lena's story other than the corruption route. If not then i guess i will only focus on Ian. His relationship possibilities with Allison, Cindy and even Minerva are great.
I have to admit that I will be severely disappointed if Lena/Holly doesn't gain any traction in this chapter.

It just feels like the time should be now, Lena's been able to desire her in secret for a while and we're finally past the "first act climax" of the Ian/Holly path. I don't expect direct declaration of undying lover or even elaborate sex scenes, but it would go a long way for me to finally initiate something more serious between Holly and Lena now.
The pace of their path makes me unsure how far it'd go in the initial stage, but the first step has to come at some point and by now we're practically over a third of the way through the assumed chapter amount.

Unrelatedly I am also hopeful for something with Lena/Emma which I'd hope to be more "middle of the road" to the sweet innocense of Holly and the utter submission of Louise, something sexually open, fun and challenging. :giggle:
 

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That's it.

Ian has some great love interests while Lena's are either absolute pricks or an attempt at a Louise route that she completely dismisses as just friends fooling around.

Such a massive letdown.

I enjoy Ian's route and it weirds me out to say that. A lesbian that doesn't like the female MC and prefers the male ... it's like opposites world here.
Eva had that issue with GGGB. 2/3rds of the love interests werent all that great... Especially all the guys. All of them. I am assuming the guys are either cucks (Dave and your BF at the start) or knuckledraggers (Gym bro and Tyrone) again.

I honestly tried to get with the trans woman. I wasnt interested in any of the others tbh.

Kinda worried to see Eva rehashing characters for this, but in a twist... Hopefully it updates, it improves. Still, this is quality you dont get from many other games...
 
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Eva had that issue with GGGB. 2/3rds of the love interests werent all that great... Especially all the guys. All of them. I am assuming the guys are either cucks (Dave and your BF at the start) or knuckledraggers (Gym bro and Tyrone) again.

I honestly tried to get with the trans woman. I wasnt interested in any of the others tbh.

Kinda worried to see Eva rehashing characters for this, but in a twist... Hopefully it updates, it improves. Still, this is quality you dont get from many other games...
Thing there is I didn't do any of the guy routes in GGGB. I didn't need to because the lesbian routes were both great and so was the trans route.

I had to do them here because the lesbian route is awful and I needed to see if anything else was any good on Lena's side.

It feels like she was tacked on to set things up for Ian's side.
 

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Oh sure, you may be right here, but I didn't care for either Eric or Dave. It's more plausible by staying mostly single until maybe something later in the game.
Yeah. Just doesn't hit that slutty gf/wife niche. All I'm asking for is a nympho with a heart of gold... or at least a gold-plated bronze option with a few cubic zirconia around the rim.
 

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Thing there is I didn't do any of the guy routes in GGGB. I didn't need to because the lesbian routes were both great and so was the trans route.

I had to do them here because the lesbian route is awful and I needed to see if anything else was any good on Lena's side.

It feels like she was tacked on to set things up for Ian's side.
Thats sad...
 

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I usually play female protag games to have sex with all the dudes I can, so I don't care for the lesbian routes.

But Evakiss surely have plans for Lena in that direction. A lot of people only think Louise is the only one, but it has been hinted that both Ivy and Holly can be on that route. The game is not finish yet, maybe down the line it will be more explored. It's too early to be disappointed on a game that isn't finish yet; wait till it ends, and if there's still a lack of lesbian content, then be disappointed as much as you can.
 

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Anyone else find it difficult to get will points with Ian?
I've gotten a few with Lena but I think I'm at 0 by chapter 6 with Ian. I must not be playing to his personality very well I guess.
 

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Anyone else find it difficult to get will points with Ian?
I've gotten a few with Lena but I think I'm at 0 by chapter 6 with Ian. I must not be playing to his personality very well I guess.
From what I remember, you just need to find the best combinations in order to write your novel. The genre, the characters, the plot and so on... I don't recall any other way to get will points with Ian.
 

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But then that shady guy - i can't tell from where my money comes from but trust me - appears and she decides to jump head first into his super vague "job proposal".
I thought the same thing when I first saw that scene. Then someone told me it was because they were under the influence of drugs at that time so maybe that could be it. Still, like you said, Ivy was acting a bit out of character there imo.

I get that it's natural to agree to a meetup with Billy to see what his proposals are. What I don't get is why even do drugs on the day of the meeting which might influence your own judgement. Seems counterintuitive to me, assuming that the drug was even capable of doing that to her.

Lena's skepticism, on the other hand, made a lot more sense to me.
 
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Anyone else find it difficult to get will points with Ian?
I've gotten a few with Lena but I think I'm at 0 by chapter 6 with Ian. I must not be playing to his personality very well I guess.
In contrary, I find it much easier to get will points with ian. I think mine is at 4, while lena is at 2.
 

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Anyone else find it difficult to get will points with Ian?
I've gotten a few with Lena but I think I'm at 0 by chapter 6 with Ian. I must not be playing to his personality very well I guess.
It's your choices. Look through the guide on page one of this thread to get all of them, but here's a few. Can't remember all.
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I just dislike the narrative setup that they are somehow more destined to be a pair than any other pairing options. I feel like the pitch of the red string tying those two together runs somewhat counterintuitively to what the point is of telling that story in a a choice-based game.
Ok. The following idea would NOT work in a sex-based game. But wouldn't it be interesting if they ended up together in the end in some profound way no matter what choices you make, but in very different circumstances, both good and bad, depending on those choices: Happy trad couple. Strung-out junkies. Murder/suicide. Mortal enemies. Heartless Manager/ Exploited Porn Star. Drunk Driver/Road Kill. Henpecked Husband/Rotten Wife. End could be heaven, hell or somewhere in between.

It would be the M Night Shayamalan of porn games, the name serving as an "I see dead people" foreshadow. But the destiny is there.

Yeah. I know there's no way in hell that will happen and it would piss everyone off royally but me. Just occurred to me cool possibilities for a twist that would tie in the game concept from a narrative standpoint. Maybe for another project.
 
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Ok. The following idea would NOT work in a sex-based game. But wouldn't it be interesting if they ended up together in the end in some profound way no matter what choices you make, but in very different circumstances, both good and bad, depending on those choices: Happy trad couple. Strung-out junkies. Murder/suicide. Mortal enemies. Heartless Manager/ Exploited Porn Star. Drunk Driver/Road Kill. Henpecked Husband/Rotten Wife. End could be heaven, hell or somewhere in between.

It would be the M Night Shayamalan of porn games, the name serving as an "I see dead people" foreshadow. But the destiny is there.

Yeah. I know there's no way in hell that will happen and it would piss everyone off royally but me. Just occurred to me cool possibilities for a twist that would tie in the game concept from a narrative standpoint. Maybe for another project.
It's not the sex that makes the concept itself unworkable though, it's the emphasis on player-choice influencing the story of the game. It's one of Eva's central selling points.

Sure, that story could probably work fine in a non-game format, but in that case it wouldn't really include the player-choice aspect which is what people are here for. The only way I could really see the concept working would be with a groundhogday-esque setup as a TV-series, with a time pocket that repeats itself, and no matter what Lena does she always ends up marrying Ian. Then she'd inch closer to a solution each episode while slowly falling in love with him for realz.
That would change the tone of the whole thing though! :LOL:
 
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It's not the sex that makes the concept itself unworkable though, it's the emphasis on player-choice influencing the story of the game. It's one of Eva's central selling points.

Sure, that story could probably work fine in a non-game format, but in that case it wouldn't really include the player-choice aspect which is what people are here for. The only way I could really see the concept working would be with a groundhogday-esque setup as a TV-series, with a time pocket that repeats itself, and no matter what Lena does she always ends up marrying Ian. Then she'd inch closer to a solution each episode while slowly falling in love with him for realz.
That would change the tone of the whole thing though! :LOL:
I don't know. I think it could work as an interactive choice-based fiction with strong themes running through it. More of a dark art game. Part of the structure would even leave a path open where they've never formally met, yet their interwoven existences have a profound effect on each other's fates regardless. A little like a cross between Run Lola Run and Alejandro Inarritu's Babel, but in game form, with a surreal Requiem For A Dream/Donnie Darko tone. (To clarify, of course, I'm not talking about ORS anymore. Just a game using an interconnection concept).

Your groundhog-day-esque idea could definitely work too, but with a very different tone and feel.
 
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