My problem with Allison is that she is so desperate for Ian's attention that she's ready to do almost anything, it's almost an obsession. And continuing to having sex with her while not committing to anything (while she obviously wants a commitment from Ian) is a little exploitative and I try to avoid doing things like that in my plathrough
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Who else has a mistake after Ian smokes at Perry's?
Ignoring Alison's feelings for Ian, her not hooking up with Jeremy any further if Ian starts sleeping with her does make one suspect that he's the hidden "god" of the group (along with her comment about what she learnt from her conversations with Gillian), whereas Jeremy might really just be average in comparison lol.Maybe Jeremy is actually average as a sexual partner? I wouldn't put past his mindset to act like he is a "god" in bed in front of his friends when he is actually nowhere near it.
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If you're referring to the error screen, that is an intentional part of the game. Keep choosing options and you will eventually get through it.
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If it's because Jeremy banged her I revolt
Damn that would be so wrong, yet… so right (with the correct choices).If it's because Jeremy banged her I revolt
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That definitely would make things interesting lol.If it's because Jeremy banged her I revolt
Given how connected things have been so far, I wouldn't be surprised if whatever Seymour/Axel have going was involved in some way.
Yeah that's definitely true and I think her Obsession with Ian is also kind of a way of covering her true Feelings for him but still be as close to him as possible at least that's what I think. But of course if you don't play full Alison in your Playthrough it really get's annoying and that's why I understand that many who play the game don't like her at all.
As I said before for me she is just a very realistic Character with flaws and hidden Feelings for Ian which she certainly can't express right now and that explains more why she is acting like this in the Game until now. For me it's very exciting to see how this goes on and I can't wait for the Moment when her Mask breaks and she HAS to act on her Feelings. That's why I like IanxAlison so much.
I think you are really exposing the truth of Jeremy right now!
But for Alison I also think she stopped their thing because she got Ian in this scenario and this is what she was after from the beginning so she doesn't need Jeremy anymore (that's at least how I see it)Imagine if this really happened. This would only be acceptable if there will be an Option to beat the shit out of Jeremy with Ian later in the Story because this is something I wanna do already because of the Alison StoryIf it's because Jeremy banged her I revolt
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It would also make Jeremy more of an obvious hypocrite, given his supposed bro-code while still submitting to Lena if she insists.Imagine if this really happened. This would only be acceptable if there will be an Option to beat the shit out of Jeremy with Ian later in the Story because this is something I wanna do already because of the Alison Story
I think the idea behind Jeremy's character is that he's trying to be a playa while he doesn't really have the composure to be a very impressive individual.
- His hookup with Alison happens only if Ian shows no interest.
- Ivy doesn't seem that impressed by him either, I get the sense from her that it's more of a game to her. Whatever happens between him and Ivy also only happens because of Ivy's initiative.
- Even his material with Emma in ch. 8 is prompted by Ian.
- Louise, the insecure submissive goth girl, is his only claim to alpha prowess, a person that quite literally throws herself at Lena when the thing between them breaks apart.
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That would also explain how he only gets clingy Louise all over him. Ivy is the one who plays him around until she notice he is a cheater.
Jeremy is a consolation prize for Allison. As soon as Ian shows he is available she goes straight for him.I think you are really exposing the truth of Jeremy right now!
Nice post (with a lot of replies so I'll cherry pick a few things)
). I do find the dual protagonist thing being the main driver for this, which helps explain their points of view on each other, especially when you focus on wits. At the same time I can understand because you control both, it can seem like... "onani-ecchi". But hey, I'm a sucker for dual protagonists with an intertwining plotline.
Picking the committed route however, the narrative in my mind comes across more as two people trying to stay true to themselves while struggling against temptation (Ian) or constant attention and attempted manipulation (Lena).
After the birthday disaster, it does take a willpoint to stop yourself from doing anything to her, and based on the aftermath in chapter 8, you have definitely doomed their relationship by stopping yourself. This might culiminate in their break-up allowing Ian to enter? It almost seems like if you did kiss or sleep with her, all the tension has been "relieved" and now Wade and Cindy repair their relationship out of her guilt of what happened.
This does seem to be one of the most popular pairings (or groupings) based on what I am reading. Given that it's been mentioned that there are going to be 20+ chapters and we're still in the early stages, one possible entry-point might be similar to Lena x Axel x Cherry in Lena's past? Maybe Ian x Lena have to be fully committed and fully trust each other, yet want to spice things up. On the other hand, Holly has to be "changed" enough to accept being brought into a threesome.
Lol honestly reading the posts on this forum make me feel like the rare exception who has a strong preference for this pairing. ORS is one of the few games where my preferred route is full commitment instead of playing the field. I find their chemistry electrifying and explains their induced attraction to each other (please pardon this awful dad joke
). I do find the dual protagonist thing being the main driver for this, which helps explain their points of view on each other, especially when you focus on wits. At the same time I can understand because you control both, it can seem like... "onani-ecchi". But hey, I'm a sucker for dual protagonists with an intertwining plotline.Picking the committed route however, the narrative in my mind comes across more as two people trying to stay true to themselves while struggling against temptation (Ian) or constant attention and attempted manipulation (Lena).
I kind of agree with BlandChili's view that there's a strong chemistry between the two, though I consider it the second strongest as Cindy comes across to me as being attracted to Ian because of his continued passion for life whereas she's someone who's trying to find that passion (and Wade is someone who has lost his, or never had it). That said, I don't really view it as the "corruptive" path, and I have my suspicions about the path.
After the birthday disaster, it does take a willpoint to stop yourself from doing anything to her, and based on the aftermath in chapter 8, you have definitely doomed their relationship by stopping yourself. This might culiminate in their break-up allowing Ian to enter? It almost seems like if you did kiss or sleep with her, all the tension has been "relieved" and now Wade and Cindy repair their relationship out of her guilt of what happened.
I do like Alison as a character, since her 'thing' to me is more someone who has had a thing for Ian for the longest time but does not know how to express it to him. Her relationship with Milo starts after Ian is already in a committed relationship with Gillian, and she dumps her boyfriend after Ian is no longer in a relationship. Though there's actually a continuity problem since an earlier chapter says her boyfriend breaks up with her and a later one states that she dumps him. However, if you do pursue her path, it almost seems like she's self-sabotaging by constantly emphasising that she's not looking for anything long term.
It was actually a pretty enjoyable read! It also unfortunately resulted in a wall of text reply from me so my apologies as well.
You certainly aren’t the only Ian/Lena advocate here, trust me.Nice post (with a lot of replies so I'll cherry pick a few things)
This does seem to be one of the most popular pairings (or groupings) based on what I am reading. Given that it's been mentioned that there are going to be 20+ chapters and we're still in the early stages, one possible entry-point might be similar to Lena x Axel x Cherry in Lena's past? Maybe Ian x Lena have to be fully committed and fully trust each other, yet want to spice things up. On the other hand, Holly has to be "changed" enough to accept being brought into a threesome.
Lol honestly reading the posts on this forum make me feel like the rare exception who has a strong preference for this pairing. ORS is one of the few games where my preferred route is full commitment instead of playing the field. I find their chemistry electrifying and explains their induced attraction to each other (please pardon this awful dad joke
Picking the committed route however, the narrative in my mind comes across more as two people trying to stay true to themselves while struggling against temptation (Ian) or constant attention and attempted manipulation (Lena).
I kind of agree with BlandChili's view that there's a strong chemistry between the two, though I consider it the second strongest as Cindy comes across to me as being attracted to Ian because of his continued passion for life whereas she's someone who's trying to find that passion (and Wade is someone who has lost his, or never had it). That said, I don't really view it as the "corruptive" path, and I have my suspicions about the path.
After the birthday disaster, it does take a willpoint to stop yourself from doing anything to her, and based on the aftermath in chapter 8, you have definitely doomed their relationship by stopping yourself. This might culiminate in their break-up allowing Ian to enter? It almost seems like if you did kiss or sleep with her, all the tension has been "relieved" and now Wade and Cindy repair their relationship out of her guilt of what happened.
I do like Alison as a character, since her 'thing' to me is more someone who has had a thing for Ian for the longest time but does not know how to express it to him. Her relationship with Milo starts after Ian is already in a committed relationship with Gillian, and she dumps her boyfriend after Ian is no longer in a relationship. Though there's actually a continuity problem since an earlier chapter says her boyfriend breaks up with her and a later one states that she dumps him. However, if you do pursue her path, it almost seems like she's self-sabotaging by constantly emphasising that she's not looking for anything long term.
It was actually a pretty enjoyable read! It also unfortunately resulted in a wall of text reply from me so my apologies as well.
I mean his code is that he gives it to girls that want it because they will end up cheating anyways, he backs up ian when he sees him with cindy after all.
I think him not getting with those girls unless prompted by the player is just so that the player can avoid seeing cuck content, the only one he pursues regardless is alison because that one is the only one that makes sense that he would be rejected because she really likes ian.
I mean he would have got some from alison had ian not prevented it, he would have got some from ivy had he not been caught. The only exception is emma but that's just the games way of letting the player choose whether they want to share emma rather than forcing it upon them. I think it's fairly well played off with jeremy not pursuing her because he just chooses not to due to having enough girls and only getting with her if ian says he should because she's a freak, if ian says that line what happens? he immediately gets some from her and ian is shocked at how fast.
So I wouldn't say he's supposed to be a failed playa it's just the games way of letting you choose to not see or hear about this npc fucking all the girls you are trying to get with. I really wouldn't be surprised if jeremy can fuck holly/jess by the time the game is done.
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Well, his code is really the idea that any girl not formally taken is fair game, he gets prissy if Ian insists that he has an interest in being the only one pursuing Alison and he approves if Ian regards her as open for play. Not that there is anything wrong with that itself, but it is a code that he is somewhat bendy with so far. We'll see how he keeps to it going forward. His real sin in my eyes is his disregard towards Louise, but this is obviously something Lena too can exhibit.
Could be, Eva wasn't really that afraid of cuck material in GGGB, but I suppose it might be different with Ian being a male main character? I don't really know how cuckolding content is experienced from a male perspective.
Eh, if Lena wanted Jeremy to get with Em regardless of the player's wishes I think she'd have done it. Emma rather plays into Ian's voyeur route.
I just got the impression that Emma wasn't his type. Emma has alternative opinions and isn't afraid to speak up, so I can see a guy like Jeremy who wants the vanilla player experience being put off slightly by her.
Possibly, it seems at least that Eva is sort of having an "open" story with him where he can play into various routes depending on the player's choice. If Cindy breaks up with Wade and Ian doesn't play for keeps, there'll probably be a side-route there too.
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It is. If Lena is dating Ian she won't go for Holly. It makes sense if you look at Lena's reaction to IanxHolly. There she is angry because she now stands between Ian and Holly. Here she would be put Holly at the same spot (who at this point still doesn't know about IanxLena). Holly would feel she was stealing Ian away from Lena.
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I mainly want this route because I like the IanxLena relationship a lot, but personally don't want to see Holly end up super corrupted or with someone bad.
I have a strong preference for the IanxLena relationship as well. The way the story is written obviously pushes their relationship as the "canon" choice, which can understandably make people think its the boring route. However, it being the default path does give it a ton of content and it's really well written imo, so it feels rewarding. I think another reason people find it boring is that a lot of the fetish/kink content is contained to other routes, so they would rather pursue those which makes sense.Lol honestly reading the posts on this forum make me feel like the rare exception who has a strong preference for this pairing. ORS is one of the few games where my preferred route is full commitment instead of playing the field. I find their chemistry electrifying and explains their induced attraction to each other (please pardon this awful dad joke
Picking the committed route however, the narrative in my mind comes across more as two people trying to stay true to themselves while struggling against temptation (Ian) or constant attention and attempted manipulation (Lena).
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My opposition is not so much boredom as much as I dislike the narrative insistence on their pairing, like I mentioned, I actually think they make a fine enough couple. I think the concept of their pairing having such a central integration in the story runs counter to the point of what a visual novel should really be.
Ash/Eric in GGGB had its merits as well but wasn't pushed nearly to the same degree as Ian/Lena, some people found their pairing boring too. Ian and Lena's relationship is practically the only topic anyone talks about for the first 5~ish chapters, except for when Ivy and Louise are at each other's throats. Even in ch. 8 Emma will still go "Yo Lenz, Ian is totally, like, into you omagawd," which isn't necessarily an issue in of itself, but then Lena goes on to emphasise that "nothing will probably happen" which is an infuriating disclaimer which implies this metaphysical state of their pairing being something given, when you try to play a route where it's not even in question.
The later chapters have become better at this so I hope it's an issue Eva is aware of.
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Agreed that Lena's reaction to IanxHolly makes sense and thus having the LenaxHolly scene blocked as a result is perfectly in line with that. The sticking point for me is that if IanxHolly never happens, the game still prevents LenaxHolly if IanxLena are dating. I think the explanation that Holly doesn't want to come between them works really well, but that isn't referenced at all in the dialog leading up to that moment and the choice to initiate the scene is just blocked. If the game allowed you to attempt the LenaxHolly scene and Holly stopped it for that reason than I think everything would make a lot more sense.