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Admittedly I don't know that much about any of the girls outside of general content (since I haven't delved into the lesbian content), but a dominant Holly does sound pretty out of character for her. It doesn't seem like something that would happen until waaaaaay down the track when her experience with sex and her general confidence is way higher, if at all. But then, for those who like Holly's innocent, cute, blush-y personality, do you really want to see her change that much? Cos I can't see her personality remaining in that same vein if she goes all domme. Unless what we see as her personality now becomes a front she puts on later, so people will underestimate her until she pulls out the whip and ball-gag on them. I suppose that could work. lol.
Submissive Holly though, or Harem Holly - that's easy enough to see.
Submissive Holly though, or Harem Holly - that's easy enough to see.
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It is a stretch, but I enjoy stretching sometimes!I think a dom Holly is still a huge stretch at this point (note to self: insert suggestive joke about 'huge stretch' here later). I wouldn't be surprised (or opposed) to see Holly bowing before Ivy and kissing her shoes next chapter.
But I think Lena's natural inclinations towards being a sub plus the indications that Holly might become sexually explorative could rationalise such a path. I think there is something hot in the sexual theme mismatch with the character personality. I think it'd be super hot to teach Holly to dom.
I don't necessarily think her personality needs to change. Lots of people enjoy dom/sub sex in complete privacy without it necessarily invading their domestic life.
Such a path doesn't have to be about total conversion. If Lena enjoys being a sub and she tells this to Holly, I don't think it would be outrageous that she at least consider giving it a try.
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100% and they have a very willing girl to practice on.
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Heh, exactly. Louise needs to be taught not to be jealous too!
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Well, I can only speak of my own experience (and I'm not gonna pretend like I'm the absolute authority on the subject or anything), but having confidence in yourself - both sexually and personally - and having the will to be able to take control of another person during the act is sort of part and parcel with being the dominant in a dom/sub arrangement. At least a serious one; as in, not one in which the sub is telling the dominant how to act, simply because the usual dominant wants to be subbed for a change... which would probably be pretty unsatisfying.
You can't be generally blushy and innocent of personality if you're a genuine dominant - it just doesn't work (unless, as I said earlier, it's an act). I'm not sure the exact time period that this game will take place over since I don't know its length yet, but going from nearly-no experience to be convincing as a dominant, especially if you have no real proclivity towards it in the first place (as it is with Holly), is really pushing the suspension of disbelieve.
That's why I struggle to see Holly truly fitting that role. I mean, I certainly don't begrudge the people who want it (because variety is nice), but in terms of authenticity and staying in character, unless it's really thought through and built well, it can easily feel contrived. Even moreso when Holly falls so effortlessly into the Sub category.
Then again, if I'm not playing it and it's what the people who are playing it want, I suppose it makes no real difference to me (I just find it weird).
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What about Agnes? She seems sorta like the female equivalent of Seymour, and like the Lena storyline's equivalent of Minerva. How do the f/f lovers feel about
Cos she has affection points. It could just be for future work, but something tells me it'll be more.
EDIT: I could see a chad or cheater Ian + Lena + Minerva threesome happening, especially if Ian is dating both and they don't find out about each other until they're too far gone on Ian to want to give him up, and/or too corrupted sexually to have any objection.
EDIT 2: I forgot that Minerva also goes to Ivy's pole dancing classes and Lena knows about her. I suppose in that case anything is possible.
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Seriously doubt it. They only ran into each other once and Lena didn't know who she was.
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Not if that's how it starts out, but getting the experience to play the dominant role convincingly is not the same as changing personality or acquiring new personality traits. Some people can rolaplay convincingly and then it just works, like the good Todd Howard would say.
In my experience it's just an individual question, some people can enjoy role playing and do it well, some don't, but playing the part does not have to mean abandoning your character assuming it's a private matter. Of course if you become a more generally dominant sexual partner that usually implies that the person too has changed, as it's no longe a role being played just with one specific partner. At least that's my theory.
I think that for monogamous relationships the only limits really are sexual openness and intimate comfort.
Like you said yourself, it can be an act. That's how it is in my relationship for example. You wouldn't ever guess that my wife could play the dominant role convincingly if you met her, but she can.
Now, it's rare that she does play the dominant role, as it doesn't come to her naturally, as I imagine the same would be true of Holly, but when we role play certain roles she can fill the part.
Of course our sex life is far from traditional, even by lesbian standards, but then again a game like ORS should allow for such options, within reason of course. I would only want a dom Holly route if Eva think it could be fun and she can make it happen in a convincing manner.
No, you're right, it's not something that can just happen, but the ideal would be that it was a continous process, perhaps not even a succesfull one. Lena could ask the task of Holly and end up having to let it go because Holly can't get into it, that would be a fair development too (although I imagine such a turn of events would piss off those few that do like the idea of dom Holly).
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I think so too. I'd love to see various reactions from Alison depending on Lena's dating life too.
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Are you sure it's a bug or is this happening in the early game?
Stats have a cap equal to the chapter number in the latest chapters I think.
I didn't notice that, but there is a bug. In Chapter 2, when you have to choose between concentrating on the drawing or not, when I choose to concentrate my Wits doesn't go up from 1 to 2, they stay at 1 so I don't improve my relationship with Lena like the guide says.
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Isn't that just because you don't have enough wits xp?
Keep in mind that what you're gaining is not +1 wits, it's +1 wits xp, which you have to accumulate to gain another wits level.
Yes this is one of the Scenarios I'm waiting for the most in this Game espescially when both Alison and Lena are heavily involved with Ian then this should be very intense and as a Alison Fan I think this will be a major Moment for her and her whole Character because then she most likely has to face her Feelings for Ian and the way she will react and act will be very interesting.
Eva is teasing this also very hard through the whole Game with them never be in the same Place after Chapter 1 and Alison always asking and be insecure about the "Model" and I think Lena and Ivy also talk about Alison once when Ian confess to Lena that he is seeing someone else.