VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.13.2 Beta] [Eva Kiss]

[Zedire]

Looks like the classic "Armani" guy outfit for me. Black shirt, black pants, and some nice black shoes. I seem to remember this was Jacks (GGGB) "night out" style as well. Not too formal, and not too casual. I guess Eva is a fan, and so am I.

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See, that actually looks stylish and sleek, but in Ian's pic it just doesn't have the same vibe(for me). Maybe it's his derpy hair that throws it off for me, or maybe it's the lack of detail around the collar of his drawing (or more precisely, the fit) compared to the pic you posted, that really just makes it look like a very average button-up shirt and kind of drab and boring for a 'special' look on him.

[..]Whatever expectations I had, were shattered instantly once I got to actually read the dialogue and progress through the story. Never before have I seen literature used in such a way for an AVN. It should be a crime how this AVN is not more popular

I agree wholeheartedly with everything you said, except I wasn't under the impression that this game is underrated or not that popular? It's pretty big as far as indie avn's go, as far as I'm aware. Also, Eva makes a killing off of it. lol.

How to get Emma's scene in ch.8, I already use the walkthrough and replay a new game a few times, but nothing happen.

Well, it's sorta hard to say where you've gone wrong if you've followed the walkthrough and aren't giving very much detail about what you've actually done (or not done).
Have you in any way promoted Perry to Emma, left them alone when there was a choice, or encouraged him to come with you when meeting Emma? If you want your Ian to have Emma for himself, you probably don't want to play into Perry's plans, and don't invite him to come with you to a place where Emma is. You can still ask Emma those questions in the club though, seeing as as far as she knows you may as well be asking cos you're interested. Make sure you go for her in the club, not Allison.
Remember, play Ian with the idea of having Emma for yourself, not helping Perry (even if you talk to him like you plan to help him).

 

[Dilshad Klein]

I think I recognise this image....

 

[mommysboiii]

This is by far one of the best AVN's I have ever played. I can't believe it took me so long to find this. The story is so fluid and relatable that I can't even begin to imagine how long it must have taken to write out everything for each path. The way it gets you invested is also very commendable. I'm seriously considering joining the patreon for this, because this is the third time an AVN on this site has affected me to such a degree. Besides a few grammar issues here and there(which I'm in no position to call out... seeing as I'm still learning English), the writing was flawless. The amount of characters and potential LI's is amazing. You're basically shaping your own story this way, and that's something I'm not used to seeing in AVN's. It's not even shaping on a small scale, your choices can vastly affect the story in its entirety. Almost every choice is connected. Whatever amount of attention this AVN has now, it's not enough. Honestly was not expecting this AVN to be that good when I'd downloaded. Whatever expectations I had, were shattered instantly once I got to actually read the dialogue and progress through the story. Never before have I seen literature used in such a way for an AVN. It should be a crime how this AVN is not more popular

This is exactly the reason why i think this visual novel needs more attention. This game actally deservs to be called visual novel with both Ian and Lena you can play them as you want you can be a asshole womanizer, a loser ,you can be a likable person you can actually roleplay and hell I think you can go even trozgh this game without dating anything.

Ian should become more muscular

as long as this is optional (maybe high athelic skill) I am for this, would fit some routes but not all routes that I played.

 

[mannice431]

When's the next update? Another 2 months perhaps?

 

[portrapoodle]

When's the next update? Another 2 months perhaps?

took 3 months for each of the last two updates, and it's been 6 weeks since the alpha. I'd assume another 4-6 weeks.

 

[mannice431]

took 3 months for each of the last two updates, and it's been 6 weeks since the alpha. I'd assume another 4-6 weeks.

The latest update also had new scenes altogether (that took some time to put together), so maybe it'll take longer.

 

[Jade Whitehorn]

I think I recognise this image....

Sydney Cole

 

[Fortuna ღ]

I am curious as to whether or not Gillian will ever make an appearance in this AVN. I'd love to see how she's been since the breakup between Ian and herself. Ian is a handsome guy, and Lena is even more beautiful than her(Gillian). I am definitely curious as to what her reaction will be to see that not only has her ex moved on, but upgraded from her and won the breakup. I'm also curious whether or not Ian will have a confrontation with Axel. I personally have experienced ex-boyfriends like him and they do not give up that easily. I'd definitely like to see his reaction to Lena being with Ian, if any.

I'm also intrigued as to how the Cherry situation will unfold. In my playthrough, Ian and Lena are on their way to a relationship and Cherry had just gotten exposed by Lena to Ian. I wonder how that will affect her coming into the friend group. Usually, people like her get ostracized, but she has not been with the friend group long enough for them to really care about what she did to Lena. Vice versa for Lena. This would have been the first time Lena would have went to Ian's place to hang out with him and his friends as opposed to sleeping with him. I'm not sure if I'm overthinking anything, but it may be possible that due to Cherry being ostracized from the group due to her issue with Lena, that Allison may indeed have an issue with that. Just a thought.

Been quite a while since an AVN had my mind racing like this lol

Edit: By the way Ian acted when he learned of Axel being Lena's ex-boyfriend in this latest update, I can see that a confrontation with Axel may very well be in the future. I can imagine Lena posting a photo of them somewhere down the line after becoming a couple, and Axel showing up to reclaim Lena. Men like him almost always do something along those lines. I think it's inevitable at this point for Ian and Axel to have a confrontation

 

[mannice431]

I was wondering: Are there any games on here that have characters like Alison in them? (Clingy, bossy, we all know how she is.)

 

[Reasoon]

I still believe that in many of the possible Scenarios of this Game Ian's Group of Friends will not survive until the end...there are so many Routes that can cause Conflict and destroy this Group in a Second if everything comes out. It will be really interesting to see how Eva handles this if she goes there and if there will be new Groups with other Characters and Ian/Lena depending on how you play them.

 

[Zedire]

I still believe that in many of the possible Scenarios of this Game Ian's Group of Friends will not survive until the end...there are so many Routes that can cause Conflict and destroy this Group in a Second if everything comes out. It will be really interesting to see how Eva handles this if she goes there and if there will be new Groups with other Characters and Ian/Lena depending on how you play them.

I think it would fit if chad Ian can become friends with Axel, bring Jeremy along, maybe even bring Mike into the fold, and that becomes his new friends group... but it could be very difficult to execute in a player-friendly way, as well as a writer-friendly way for Eva. If being friends with any or all of these characters is based off of friendship points (denoting who is your friend, and therefore in your new group, and who is not), it would be a massive amount of work to create alternative text or even situations for every variation of your group of three (if one or two of them aren't in the group, say).

At the same time, if they become Ian's new friend group by 'default' when he reaches a certain level of chad, and therefore you're no longer friends with Perry and Wade, it feels like it's going against player agency (not to mention rendering Ian's relationship score with them completely pointless, so I don't think they'll do this one.)

And if they just bring in two new characters for Ian to be friends with, that's gonna feel so tacked on and poorly done. I can't even imagine that.

But I think we all agree that mega chad Ian probably wouldn't stay friends with Perry and Wade due to how extremely different their tastes and lifestyles are. It would just seem weird.

Maybe chad Ian just becomes a lone wolf if/when he leaves Perry and Wade? Sort of like how Ashley got her own apartment in GGGB. At least that would take away the work, and not shoehorn the players into any weird friendships.

 

[dontcarewhateverno]

And surprisingly nobody has realized Ivy is Kendra Sunderland!

For real? Looked her up immediately and the girl that shows up is IMO hotter and less skanky-looking (even if it's all hardcore porn shots) than Ivy. Could be I'm running across photos from earlier in her career though where sex to her isn't quite like punching in the time clock yet.

 

[lcvargas]

I think it would fit if chad Ian can become friends with Axel, bring Jeremy along, maybe even bring Mike into the fold, and that becomes his new friends group... but it could be very difficult to execute in a player-friendly way, as well as a writer-friendly way for Eva. If being friends with any or all of these characters is based off of friendship points (denoting who is your friend, and therefore in your new group, and who is not), it would be a massive amount of work to create alternative text or even situations for every variation of your group of three (if one or two of them aren't in the group, say).

At the same time, if they become Ian's new friend group by 'default' when he reaches a certain level of chad, and therefore you're no longer friends with Perry and Wade, it feels like it's going against player agency (not to mention rendering Ian's relationship score with them completely pointless, so I don't think they'll do this one.)

And if they just bring in two new characters for Ian to be friends with, that's gonna feel so tacked on and poorly done. I can't even imagine that.

But I think we all agree that mega chad Ian probably wouldn't stay friends with Perry and Wade due to how extremely different their tastes and lifestyles are. It would just seem weird.

Maybe chad Ian just becomes a lone wolf if/when he leaves Perry and Wade? Sort of like how Ashley got her own apartment in GGGB. At least that would take away the work, and not shoehorn the players into any weird friendships.

I think Wade will have a redemption story. Before he becomes who he is right now (I mean being with Cindy and neglecting his physique), he was kinda a "chad." Might be on the route where Ian or Axel took Cindy away from him.

As per Perry, he will stay as Perry. He might have a different attitude if you push him towards Cherry.

Ian is already friends with Jeremy, and Axel is not adverse to becoming buddies with him. Jeremy is friends with Mike, so he might just pill him in in the new Chad group if Ian ever becomes a chad. I honestly want to have a chad Ian even if there's no chad group.

 

[dundun]

I am curious as to whether or not Gillian will ever make an appearance in this AVN. I'd love to see how she's been since the breakup between Ian and herself. Ian is a handsome guy, and Lena is even more beautiful than her(Gillian). I am definitely curious as to what her reaction will be to see that not only has her ex moved on, but upgraded from her and won the breakup. I'm also curious whether or not Ian will have a confrontation with Axel. I personally have experienced ex-boyfriends like him and they do not give up that easily. I'd definitely like to see his reaction to Lena being with Ian, if any.

I'm also intrigued as to how the Cherry situation will unfold. In my playthrough, Ian and Lena are on their way to a relationship and Cherry had just gotten exposed by Lena to Ian. I wonder how that will affect her coming into the friend group. Usually, people like her get ostracized, but she has not been with the friend group long enough for them to really care about what she did to Lena. Vice versa for Lena. This would have been the first time Lena would have went to Ian's place to hang out with him and his friends as opposed to sleeping with him. I'm not sure if I'm overthinking anything, but it may be possible that due to Cherry being ostracized from the group due to her issue with Lena, that Allison may indeed have an issue with that. Just a thought.

Been quite a while since an AVN had my mind racing like this lol

Edit: By the way Ian acted when he learned of Axel being Lena's ex-boyfriend in this latest update, I can see that a confrontation with Axel may very well be in the future. I can imagine Lena posting a photo of them somewhere down the line after becoming a couple, and Axel showing up to reclaim Lena. Men like him almost always do something along those lines. I think it's inevitable at this point for Ian and Axel to have a confrontation

Ian doesn't really care about Gillian any more. Compare it to Lena who regularly thinks about Axel, Ian haven't thought about Gillian since the beginning of the game, instead he had have sex with 7 women. So it is pretty save to say he is over her. So there would be no real drama.
When you go for Alison after you took Cherry home Cherry will back off as she doesn't want any more drama. So I guess it will be the same for Lena. Even more so, as the reason she is so skittish is Lena in the first place.

I still believe that in many of the possible Scenarios of this Game Ian's Group of Friends will not survive until the end...there are so many Routes that can cause Conflict and destroy this Group in a Second if everything comes out. It will be really interesting to see how Eva handles this if she goes there and if there will be new Groups with other Characters and Ian/Lena depending on how you play them.

They are called mayor characters for a reason, they won't go away. So somehow they will stay connected throughout the game.

 

[Ethan987]

I think I recognise this image....

Who is This Bro

 

[Reasoon]

They are called mayor characters for a reason, they won't go away. So somehow they will stay connected throughout the game.

Yes, don't get me wrong because I don't mean that they go away or vanish from the Story but rather that the Dynamic with them has to change at certain Scenarios with Ian/Cindy or Ian/Emma. I just can't see these Routes going forward without conflict espescially with Wade and Perry. This could also be the case for Lena/Jeremy if Ian falls for her.

 

[dundun]

Yes, don't get me wrong because I don't mean that they go away or vanish from the Story but rather that the Dynamic with them has to change at certain Scenarios with Ian/Cindy or Ian/Emma. I just can't see these Routes going forward without conflict espescially with Wade and Perry. This could also be the case for Lena/Jeremy if Ian falls for her.

I agree. But if Wade, Perry, Jeremy don't go away they have to stay in either Lena's or Ian's circle. Or both. I can't see Perry or Wade in Lena's circle so they have to stay in Ian's. My point is that I can't see new circles forming. There may be someone switching circles (Axel hanging out with Ian or Jeremy with Lena) but neither can really abandon all their friends. Well, at least not until towards the end of the story.
Also, as I already wrote 13 months ago, I still have no idea what will happen with Wade. As apparently had EvaKiss, she completely changed his back story after all. So yeah, I keep wondering how he will stay relevant to the story if you go for Cindy, and also if you don't.

 

[Rickster82]

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It was hard coming up with a Charisma outfit for Ian. I had some ideas but they could also fit the Wits and Lust category, and I wanted each to have a distinct flair.
I finally decided on making a reworked version of Ian's open blue shirt outfit, making it more sleek and "urban" and adding some cool details, like the necklace and the chain. If the Wits outfit was something close to what a young Seymour could wear, this goes more in the Jeremy direction.
Another thing you might've noticed is the color palette, very similar to the Wits outfit. I decided to use the same color palette for all four new designs, tying them together. This is something I wish I had done more with Lena's four outfits, and I might go back and rework them a bit (especially the athletics outfit, I'm not too happy with that one).
Do you think Ian looks cool in these clothes?

 

[BlandChili]

What a dull outfit. Barely an upgrade to one of the ones he already has.

 

[SpikeZg]

yeah, wits outfit is the best so far, two more to go...