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Or Lena/Holly
The real challenge with this aspect, like Zedire mentioned, is that the dual protag concept makes many more possible combinations.
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The real challenge with this aspect, like Zedire mentioned, is that the dual protag concept makes many more possible combinations.
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Alright, My first post ever on this site. I`m usually just a spectator and I don`t normally get involved enough to comment on something.
But this game, I`ll admit; after playing GGGB, it is quite a different beast.
I "sped" through it, it was great, I was involved. I steered Ian with my morals but also mindful of the context he lived in. And a context that my mind could connect to.
I played him insecure with Lena, after all, he`s kind of a pushover, still reeling from Gillian. I didn`t pursue her on as him, as I felt he`d not have enough selfconfidence and that the situations really didn`t favour it naturally: first time to take Lena`s path is after seeing her naked unexpectedly, doesn`t feel right if you don`t want to come off as a creep or just interested in her body. Second chance is right after, thanks to Perry. It is now more private but still not right; she`s been nice to you and the situation doesn`t favour a heart to heart, then again, you`ve just seen her naked. It doesn`t feel right to pursue right now.
There`s a third time to get on track but what`s the context? Time has passed since you saw her naked, you`ve interacted with her some more, you`re interested but do not have that security; that drive to take the lead. And as Ian, you MUST take the lead in this game. So, everything is aligned now to seem like you do like Her whole, not just her body... everything but Ian`s security and drive to take the lead... then Jeremy, "the player" comes in and he talks some sense into Ian, that he has to act now, she`s slipping away, last chance. So now, not only is the timing less akward, but a friend is giving him some drive of his own to help him. Just what Ian needed to take the iniat- It`s gray
The option is gray
...
WHY? WHY is the option grey?
If you`ve played Ian as someone that is awkward and an introvert, and also someone that doesn`t want just some fling, this is the perfect time to choose to pursue Lena. It is in character to do so, but the game believes the cards are now down and I`ve already chosen, the option to choose right there but grey. I was in denial, there had to be another chance, after all, the game is about choices and where they take you, but choice is not just a matter of what you decide but when. So there had to be another oportunity, right?
So I activated the skip dialogue command and now truly sped through the content, there had to be another chance, I didn`t involve Ian or Lena in any other relation, preparing for the time the option for Ian and Lena to start a relation. And then the Holy Grail of opportunities came. Lena meets Cherry and Drama ensues, Lena walks away, and Ian leaves his friends to find out what happened. Lena opens up: A heart to heart, a broken one to another one, unknowingly. A heart to have they never had before, never allowed themselves before. Lena had just explained what had broken her, it was the same Ian had gone through and he had unknowingly played the part in her being like this with Cherry around, he just didn`t know.
He`d be devasted too in Lena`s shoes, he had lived through the same after all. So he`d try to support her, walk her home, he`d leave his friends, he cared for them, yes, but this was more important. Lena had already rejected offers to be walked home, so here she could too again and try to drive off Ian, either way, Ian would talk what happened with Gillian, be it on the way home or still outside the store, either way, Lena would now understand Ian just as now Ian understood Lena. Lena could still reject Ian`s offer to be walked home but she would understan now. They could remain friends as before but now something else could be born.
But nothing, just a goodbye from Ian and returning to his friends, here truly and decisevly the game lost me, it was definitely a good game sure, something greater than what had come before, sure.
But then I tried again, this time being more active and going for Lena Head on. Seeing what I had lost with being passive originally, And... They fucked and sent nudes before ever truly talking about their feelings, several weeks of that and the most I got was a "Maybe we should talk between us soon about where we stand truly" What? No, just no.
Sure heart broken people go for flings, be it just after breakup or a year after or whenever, it happens all the time. But if I am both steering them towards taking this as anything but a fling, why do they treat it as such and not have a heart to heart as I believe they`d want to and need to to feel safer with the other.
As I said, the game had lost me on my original walkthrough, and it seemed a second one didn`t help. So now I`m here, writing how a magnificent project didn`t quite meet my expectations.
So now I`ll add something more to this. I believe that the male protagonist and his personality was a wrong pick for the game, let me explain further. While the prospect of a broken heart being reignited is always something can relate to, almost universally, I find the game struggles to keep tied Ian`s context with the choices it presents. From going from dumped to player it is a huge jump, and to me it fills like a male fantasy outright, not because it can`t happen, but that due to the way Ian has lived up to now and how short the game`s time frame is, justifyng Ian trying and managing to bang every chick that ever appeared on screen is jarring... at least to me.
So, what I believe would have been better is a Male protagonist that was a player in his teens, but that due to life he had the last years to truly devote himself to surviving as he no longer had the support of his parents to be the player he was in his teens. But now he was not just barely surviving, he now had some breathing room. He had grown since he was a teen, but did that mean he wanted to play the field like he had before, just now harder with more experience, or take another path? Either way, his past could very well haunt him whatever he chose.
I find this character still interesting if somewhat less so than Ian, but you could go crazier and still feel like a natural development from what was there at the start.
Anyways, this is only a comment from a single person, I don`t intend to offend with it but instead to hear others.
Alright, My first post ever on this site. I`m usually just a spectator and I don`t normally get involved enough to comment on something.
But this game, I`ll admit; after playing GGGB, it is quite a different beast.
I "sped" through it, it was great, I was involved. I steered Ian with my morals but also mindful of the context he lived in. And a context that my mind could connect to.
I played him insecure with Lena, after all, he`s kind of a pushover, still reeling from Gillian. I didn`t pursue her on as him, as I felt he`d not have enough selfconfidence and that the situations really didn`t favour it naturally: first time to take Lena`s path is after seeing her naked unexpectedly, doesn`t feel right if you don`t want to come off as a creep or just interested in her body. Second chance is right after, thanks to Perry. It is now more private but still not right; she`s been nice to you and the situation doesn`t favour a heart to heart, then again, you`ve just seen her naked. It doesn`t feel right to pursue right now.
There`s a third time to get on track but what`s the context? Time has passed since you saw her naked, you`ve interacted with her some more, you`re interested but do not have that security; that drive to take the lead. And as Ian, you MUST take the lead in this game. So, everything is aligned now to seem like you do like Her whole, not just her body... everything but Ian`s security and drive to take the lead... then Jeremy, "the player" comes in and he talks some sense into Ian, that he has to act now, she`s slipping away, last chance. So now, not only is the timing less akward, but a friend is giving him some drive of his own to help him. Just what Ian needed to take the iniat- It`s gray
The option is gray
...
WHY? WHY is the option grey?
If you`ve played Ian as someone that is awkward and an introvert, and also someone that doesn`t want just some fling, this is the perfect time to choose to pursue Lena. It is in character to do so, but the game believes the cards are now down and I`ve already chosen, the option to choose right there but grey. I was in denial, there had to be another chance, after all, the game is about choices and where they take you, but choice is not just a matter of what you decide but when. So there had to be another oportunity, right?
So I activated the skip dialogue command and now truly sped through the content, there had to be another chance, I didn`t involve Ian or Lena in any other relation, preparing for the time the option for Ian and Lena to start a relation. And then the Holy Grail of opportunities came. Lena meets Cherry and Drama ensues, Lena walks away, and Ian leaves his friends to find out what happened. Lena opens up: A heart to heart, a broken one to another one, unknowingly. A heart to have they never had before, never allowed themselves before. Lena had just explained what had broken her, it was the same Ian had gone through and he had unknowingly played the part in her being like this with Cherry around, he just didn`t know.
He`d be devasted too in Lena`s shoes, he had lived through the same after all. So he`d try to support her, walk her home, he`d leave his friends, he cared for them, yes, but this was more important. Lena had already rejected offers to be walked home, so here she could too again and try to drive off Ian, either way, Ian would talk what happened with Gillian, be it on the way home or still outside the store, either way, Lena would now understand Ian just as now Ian understood Lena. Lena could still reject Ian`s offer to be walked home but she would understan now. They could remain friends as before but now something else could be born.
But nothing, just a goodbye from Ian and returning to his friends, here truly and decisevly the game lost me, it was definitely a good game sure, something greater than what had come before, sure.
But then I tried again, this time being more active and going for Lena Head on. Seeing what I had lost with being passive originally, And... They fucked and sent nudes before ever truly talking about their feelings, several weeks of that and the most I got was a "Maybe we should talk between us soon about where we stand truly" What? No, just no.
Sure heart broken people go for flings, be it just after breakup or a year after or whenever, it happens all the time. But if I am both steering them towards taking this as anything but a fling, why do they treat it as such and not have a heart to heart as I believe they`d want to and need to to feel safer with the other.
As I said, the game had lost me on my original walkthrough, and it seemed a second one didn`t help. So now I`m here, writing how a magnificent project didn`t quite meet my expectations.
So now I`ll add something more to this. I believe that the male protagonist and his personality was a wrong pick for the game, let me explain further. While the prospect of a broken heart being reignited is always something can relate to, almost universally, I find the game struggles to keep tied Ian`s context with the choices it presents. From going from dumped to player it is a huge jump, and to me it fills like a male fantasy outright, not because it can`t happen, but that due to the way Ian has lived up to now and how short the game`s time frame is, justifyng Ian trying and managing to bang every chick that ever appeared on screen is jarring... at least to me.
So, what I believe would have been better is a Male protagonist that was a player in his teens, but that due to life he had the last years to truly devote himself to surviving as he no longer had the support of his parents to be the player he was in his teens. But now he was not just barely surviving, he now had some breathing room. He had grown since he was a teen, but did that mean he wanted to play the field like he had before, just now harder with more experience, or take another path? Either way, his past could very well haunt him whatever he chose.
I find this character still interesting if somewhat less so than Ian, but you could go crazier and still feel like a natural development from what was there at the start.
Anyways, this is only a comment from a single person, I don`t intend to offend with it but instead to hear others.
Yeah it's not the classy thing for Lena to do (or Ian with Minerva (best girl btw
)), but in those cases at least the player characters have no moral obligations to Mike's GF or Minervas Husband, so there's no betrayal of trust.That's not to say that my slight bad feeling stops me from exploring those routes
I find it funny that Ian, Lena are both open to cheating after being dumped by their exes.Yeah it's not the classy thing for Lena to do (or Ian with Minerva (best girl btw
That's not to say that my slight bad feeling stops me from exploring those routes
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Well, considering there is a distinct choice between having sex with Cindy, getting seen, etc - the sexual route - and kissing her and just leaving it there - the romance route - I'm guessing there would be two possible ways it could go.
The sexual route is the one where you know what you're doing is hella wrong but don't really care and do it anyway because you want to. It shouldn't be surprising if Ian loses Wade's friendship on this path (probably also Perry's, and quite possibly becomes ostracized from his friend's group) considering how little he cared about Wade as a friend to do it in the first place. That seems pretty fair to me. Perhaps depending on how Ian goes about it and the exact depth of Cindy's connection to Ian when Wade finds out could be the difference between whether Cindy continues to see Ian or whether she breaks it off completely because she can't handle the guilt.
On the romance side, if Ian stopped after kissing her in that alley, they could both chalk the kiss up as a 'mistake' or 'one-off' despite the fact that they both wanted it, like each other, and would love to do it again. The tension grows between them, but they take no action on it until Cindy and Wade naturally break up, after which Ian and Cindy get together. Now, Wade and Perry would probably still have a pretty bad reaction to this, but at least this way Ian isn't blatantly working against Wade while he's still with Cindy, so he'd probably get over it in time (though it would probably take most of the rest of the game).
EDIT: This is also taking into account that the player has sabotaged Wade and Cindy's relationship score at every turn so they've very little reason to stay together by the time Cindy and Ian have their moment. I'm not sure what happens if Cindy and Wade's relationship stat is still 'okay' (not great, but okay) - whether it will be enough for Cindy to stay with Wade or not. I've never tried it myself.
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I'm kinda interested in the MMA Ian route ngl, if you can build up Ian to be a nicer version of Jack from GGGB that'd be baller.
In the last chapter, Cindy posts a happy selfie with wade. I guess Ian isher dildo.
Not yet. Personally I can't wait for it.
I think Eva has an opportunity here for some really hot dialogue. Since Alison can seem a bit prudish compared to the rest of Ian's gang (when they were talking about Perry's porn addiction for instance), it would be interesting to see how Ian convinces Alison to do a threesome together with Jeremy.
I feel Eva's greatest strength is the buildup to the sex scenes rather than the actual sex. Her dialogue often sets the scene up really well. I hope this doesn't disappoint.
I feel like Alison would comply only in the Ian chad route, ie where Jeremy succeds to sleep with her. Otherwise, she only cares about Ian.
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Hoping for some Lena & Ed/Seymour action in the next couple of updates
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I'm interested in that route as well. My main playthrough is focused on getting away from Jeremy, because I see a direct correlation between Jeremy from ORS and Jack from GGGB. I despised Jack from the start of GGGB and it's kind of the same for Jeremy. Even though he seems to be a bit more "bro" status for Ian... He still rubs me the wrong way.
Further touching on the MMA route, I think it would be awesome if during the MMA tournament, Ian and Jeremy face off and we have a chance to beat the shit outta him.
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Err... I think you sorta misunderstood what Cindy was doing there.
After Cindy and Ian had their moment -- either a kiss or sex -- Cindy freaked out, which would be a pretty natural response to that 'spur of the moment' acting on her feelings. She tried to backtrack and attempt to 'fix' her relationship with Wade by going off on a romantic weekend. Seeing as Ian followed her social media, she knew he would see it when she posted that selfie, and did it to give the impression that what had happened between Ian and her meant nothing (to him) and that she and Wade were going great (to the rest of her friends who knew about her fight with Wade at the club).
It was a desperate act, and even Perry caught on to it, saying something like 'doesn't it seem like their relationship is a bit beyond fixing?', or something to that effect.
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Thanks for your input. It does put a different perspective. But why do you think Cindy changed her outfit?
Most of us do on a daily basis..
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IMO, Jack isn't really like Jeremy at all, besides them both being chads. It also depends on how you play Ash's relationship with Jack, like if you go for a romance or sexual relationship only. Yes, Jack starts off being your standard chad and quite a bit of an asshole, but if you actually romance him you find out there's a lot more going on with him below the surface. He's actually not bad in that route.
Jeremy, however, at least as he is so far, is purely into women for the sex. He's shown virtually no personality other then that so far, and what small morals he preaches about 'not stealing a brother's girl' are sorta questionable considering he does kinda hint at wanting to go for Allison even when Ian has clearly talked about how he likes her and they've started seeing each other (and his relationship points with Ian go down if Ian says that he likes her, rather then just wanting to fuck her).
Gotta say, I've loved the MMA aspect of this game from the start, and love the street fights - I would love a lot more of those beyond the tournament, although that would probably get pretty dicey with the law. Hmm.. maybe Seymour will use Ian for shakedowns on people that owe him, in future?
But yeah, I'm excited about more MMA content, and being able to kick Jeremy's ass if he tries hitting on one of your girls would be fun. I mean, it will probably happen anyway, if Lena keeps dating Ian and Jeremy at the same time.
My guess is that Cindy's new outfit is for a photoshoot with Axel, and possibly to tempt/tease Ian at the same time (seeing as the scene has to be from the POV of either Ian or Lena, and though it could be Lena doing some sort of modelling with Axel as her photographer, I still think it's more likely to be Ian). Cindy will probably see it as a bonus to keep Ian's attention focused on her during the photoshoot since she's still interested in him, even though she's gonna pretend she's not for a bit.
If it weren't for the white stockings, I'd have said it was her new everyday outfit, but it's too sensual for that.
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I know it's the shitty thing to do but my MC went balls deep in Cindy during the alley scene. Cindy is my main LI and as I said before, as shitty as it is, I'm willing to do whatever I have to do to get her.
My Lena PT is a lesbian one. So she's not interested in any guys except for friendship.
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Agreed, there is no similarity in my opinion. Jeremys character is more like Kevin from GGGB. I think EvaKiss said as much herself. Jeremy and Jack are at two entirely different paths in life. Jack was a rich playboy, I think he was a reality-tv small time celeb if I remember correctly. He had to have a lot of money considering that he drives a Bugatti Veyron, and hes out there buying night clubs/gyms like an entrepreneur.
Jeremy is a working-class bartender, who aspire to become an MMA fighter, not really a luxurious profession unless you reach the top of the top organizations (Or you get to fight Jake Paul). I'm not quite sure where Eva wants to go with the character, right now he does not have much of a personality, the little we know comes from the bio in the menu.
Like Kevin, Jeremy he is your typical fuckboy, which is why he ends up in that messy situation with Louise. Jack on the other hand is always very clear, that he wants no relationship and that he only wants fun. Ashley has to pursue Jack to "tame the beast" so to speak. The only similarity I can find, is that they both like to share photos of their conquests.
- Dec 15, 2020
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Well, they're also both buff dudes in tight shirts frequenting the gym setting in-game!
Is that a personality trait?