VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.13.3.4] [Eva Kiss]

[jduk]

have you ever considerd seeing a shrink?

Have you?

 

[Tallyhoe]

The difference is that even though Ian's content isn't really your particular interest, you still enjoy his content, or at least can recognize why it exists and that other players might have a different appreciation. The other poster's Tallyhoe was referring to were complaining about longer updates not being to their liking because they have to wait to get a fraction of the content others enjoy, while having no interest in one MC who is half of the point of the game.

We all go into this game knowing what we're getting with half Ian, half Lena - it never makes a secret of this format. If someone decides they don't like that, then that doesn't point to a fault in the game, but a fault in their unrealistic expectations and unwillingness to acknowledge what was in front of them from the start.

And then they further misunderstand by expecting the game to have the same turnaround time update-to-update despite the fact that the content increases as the routes get introduced, fleshed out and become more complex.

Some people's complaints are hilarious considering they're getting something they admittedly like (amid what they don't like) for free. I'd understand it to some degree if their favorite relationship was being unreasonably neglected in favor of all the others, but as Eva is giving attention to all of the relationships as the need arises, what are they expecting?

Also, speaking of, I don't usually like using this phrase, but I feel it's pretty apt to say it to those people now: 'Adjust your expectations.' Seriously. You're never going to know how much work goes into making a game like this unless you've had some personal experience with it, so try to appreciate what you're getting, even if circumstances around it aren't perfectly to your liking.

Exactly. It's like reading AsoIaF and ask why there're multiple POVs and demand GRRM writes only Dany or Jon chapter.

 

[Teize]

have you ever considerd seeing a shrink?

C'mon dude, we're all degenerates of some kind on a forum like this. Let's not say shit like this, obviously jduk is on the extreme end and I personally don't really want the same content they do but I really don't think a lewd pirate forum is the place to be judgemental, lol.

 

[Canto Forte]

This VN has protagonists, they are 2, they get most of the content.
Whenever you, as a gamer, wish to play this game for the sake of exploring the
exploits of any of the NPCs that are not the protagonists, you will have ta release control.
Only MCs get choices and only MCs have their perspective somewhat explained.

Any other NPC you so wish to see more of is on you, it means you are not playing a game,
but you just wanna read the novel about whatever perspective any of the MCs you play as
has of that NPC .. a very narrow outside perspective. That is on you. Happy gaming.

While I understand some of you only like one of the MCs, I don't know how you can view or describe this game with only one of them.

It's the game WITH 2 MCs. Not by choice but by design. It's the core of the game that you get to live both of their lives at the same time, and sometimes view the other from the different perspectives. Their paths may or may not intertwine or overlap with each other.

You can either take it or leave it. If you've been playing as only one of the MCs and skip the other, you already missed 50% of the intended overall game content. So if you intentionally miss half the content, I don't think you should cry why so little content.

The difference is that even though Ian's content isn't really your particular interest, you still enjoy his content, or at least can recognize why it exists and that other players might have a different appreciation. The other poster's Tallyhoe was referring to were complaining about longer updates not being to their liking because they have to wait to get a fraction of the content others enjoy, while having no interest in one MC who is half of the point of the game.

We all go into this game knowing what we're getting with half Ian, half Lena - it never makes a secret of this format. If someone decides they don't like that, then that doesn't point to a fault in the game, but a fault in their unrealistic expectations and unwillingness to acknowledge what was in front of them from the start.

And then they further misunderstand by expecting the game to have the same turnaround time update-to-update despite the fact that the content increases as the routes get introduced, fleshed out and become more complex.

Some people's complaints are hilarious considering they're getting something they admittedly like (amid what they don't like) for free. I'd understand it to some degree if their favorite relationship was being unreasonably neglected in favor of all the others, but as Eva is giving attention to all of the relationships as the need arises, what are they expecting?

Also, speaking of, I don't usually like using this phrase, but I feel it's pretty apt to say it to those people now: 'Adjust your expectations.' Seriously. You're never going to know how much work goes into making a game like this unless you've had some personal experience with it, so try to appreciate what you're getting, even if circumstances around it aren't perfectly to your liking.

I don't necessarily worry about the duration of updates myself and I'm happy to wait as the quality and quantity of each update is proven time and again but I do fear that Eva herself might feel pressured to truncate or abandon paths if it becomes apparent that that she won't reach the end until like 2025 or something.

 

[scor099]

I can understand that you don't like a scene involving a specific NPC I for example and I'm sure a lot of you don't like Robert's scenes and that's understandable because you still have at least 7 scenes with other characters, but if you don't like one of the two MCS that's on you because from day one you knew what you were getting into and by doing so you cut half the content plus other NPCS you don't like so of course you will only get one or two scenes, I'm not invested in Lena's story as I am on Ian's but I still like Lena and I can't wait to see her get gangbanged.

 

[scor099]

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C'mon dude, we're all degenerates of some kind on a forum like this. Let's not say shit like this, obviously jduk is on the extreme end and I personally don't really want the same content they do but I really don't think a lewd pirate forum is the place to be judgemental, lol.

I'm obviously joking, I actually like his comments and ideas because they're so fucking crazy.

 

[Teize]

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I'm obviously joking, I actually like his comments and ideas because they're so fucking crazy.

Yikes. My apologies then, dude.

 

[scor099]

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Yikes. My apologies then, dude.

no problem.

 

[Lovely Dani]

Dear friends of ORS, since I don't want to start again the game, some guy with a kind heart could post a saving file from the beginning of the weekend of Ian and Holly, please? I owe him/her a sexual favor ;-)

 

[John Doe Jr.]

nah, i'm pretty sure Lena won't be occupied by her mom for the whole update. it's probably gonna go like: mom had an accident so the family needs more money from lena. mom is gonna use that to hold onto Lena, wanting her to stay with them so she can finally play her good mother role again, totally not considering what Lena wants at all, like usual.
so you can probably choose between saying that you need to think of something, if you want to mediate, or storm of because she is holding you emotionally hostage. either way this makes Lena more desperate and gives way for more shady businesses. about time Ward shows up again.

Really love this set up. Really would set the tone to get into other aspects of the game. I would think a low willpower and low wits Lena would so some....questionable things for that money to help out her family. As a bit of a side note since I've seen some talk about mind breaking cumdumps, I think people are comparing Ward to Arthur from GGGB a bit too much. I don't think Ward, personality wise, is anything like Arthur nor would he do the things Arthur did and especially not the way Arthur achieved it. Ward is far more subtle, more calculating, and normal compared to Arthur. I think Ward and Lena will get kinky for sure but not in the way it was presented with Arthur and Ashley and will be more nuanced.

 

[Deleted member 40068]

I do wish we could see the game from Jeremy's POV during his scenes

 

[BlandChili]

Why? The same scenes would occur.

 

[Rickster82]

@ BlandChili

I really want to know how your "character card" would be.

I would guess

W: 7 C: 6 A: 4 & L: 6

 

[BlandChili]

Nah man, I'd have a little infinity symbol next to each category, except for athletics where there'd be a Batman emblem.

 

[WatsonJohn]

Would Ian's ex Gillian really not have a substantial role? Because having her as a character would add so much to the story (and fckedupness) which I think people will really love. But maybe that's just my messed up head talking.

 

[Zedire]

Would Ian's ex Gillian really not have a substantial role? Because having her as a character would add so much to the story (and fckedupness) which I think people will really love. But maybe that's just my messed up head talking.

As far as I recall, Eva has no plans to bring Gillian into the story as a character. I think she sees that chapter of Ian's life as behind him, and staying that way. But I think the real reason is because it would just end up being too much work, because Gillian would probably have to have - as you said - a substantial role if she was going to appear at all. A 'cameo'/brief appearance would feel pretty unsatisfying.
Gillian content would be interesting though, that's for sure! I imagine she could potentially stir up all sorts of trouble in Ian's new relationship(s), make him second-guess if he's truly over her, be a good test of his resolve, or a chance for him to take some sort of revenge if he's feeling petty.
EDIT: In fact, a Gillian route could be a great idea for a DLC, to release some time after the game is done. It would probably be fairly popular if Eva ever did decide to do that.

 

[Ninja of Death]

He could tell Jeremy and Perry - and the nerdy roommate of Lena - that she's fair game. Gangbang by all 3 at once?

 

[jduk]

A nice addition would be a short flashback to Gillian cheating on Ian and how he found out... And with that thought, he will become cuck, or become better version of himself and never allow that again or something else... I have in mind, Ian finding out Lena, Holly, Alison or whoever has a relationship with, cheating on him and having this flashback...

 

[Ninja of Death]

I don't like Ian cuck. Rather see Gillian a total whore after.

 

[dontcarewhateverno]

I think these are the most likely and the ones I would most like to see. Blackmail, assault, drugging etc doesn't really jibe with the tone of the game (so far).

Based on the simp/thot dynamic in the second Stan/Lena photoshoot, I could see it going in a more paypig/fin-dom direction. Unsure how it's developed last chapter since that shoot. I noped the hell out, reloaded and solo'd her SF instead since I disliked Lena's thoughts and that theme in particular. But I can see ol Stan paying Lena's rent for a once-a-month solo-show treat where he gets to fiddle with himself while filming. Potentially a gloved three-tug handjob for Christmas while Lena works a crossword puzzle with her free hand.

I'm obviously joking, I actually like his comments and ideas because they're so fucking crazy.

Jduk's like my 3rd or 4th favorite character in ORS if you consider the forum canon. He's even got catch-phrases. [Jduk]: 'And then fuck her-'[Studio audience joins in]:"inn her liittle aaasshollle". *Crowd cheers and applauds*

Twomeier's a good side-character.