kartolas

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i agree, but another reason why Ian's side of the story feels more interesting then Lena's is that a lot of his love interests aren't just random hookups

fucking Cindy and Emma means you're cucking your best friends
for other girls, you have to get them before Jeremy does (and you know he will)

compare this to Robert and Mike... if you ignore them they can just disappear from the story
it feels the best storylines for Lena are only just starting, like Axel, Seymour or her lesbian options
What do you mean by "best storylines"? I don't get it.
 

sbarabaus

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story arcs, love interests, however you want to call them
whatever differs from "a random guy hits on her, they fuck"
 

Hasshasshin

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I think she had a summer break too that's why we getting more time between the updates.. But oh boy we are gonna find out very soon what happens next.. keep on the good work eva
 

Zedire

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TBH I suspect Eva's original rationale for having a male protagonist as well for Our Red String is probably just to broaden the audience and gain more Patreon support that way.
Too many 'ew, I can't play a female protag game, it makes me gay!' people around. Would have been unfair if Eva missed out on potential patrons despite a quality project in every way just because of the female protag tag.
I can't say this isn't the case as only Eva would know the real reason, but I think it's far more likely that Eve made this game with two protagonists because she as a writer was genuinely interested in exploring the concept of having a male and female MC in the same game, rather then doing it because it would potentially widen her audience and get her more money (although that would certainly be a bonus).

It's not a very common thing to find any game where both male and female characters can be played at the same time, which makes the idea fresh and intriguing. It also allows for the exploration of events from two different viewpoints, which is also fun to do as a writer (for example, showing how two people can experience the same moment in completely different ways depending on their personalities and life experiences).

I say this because you can see that Eva is a writer by nature and enjoys creating her story, as evidence by how engaging this game's writing and storyline is. I think it's also clear by how closely she holds her work and insists on keeping creative control by largely working alone (despite what a huge workload that creates), keeping outside influence to an absolute minimum. The more passionate the artist is about their work, the more protective they tend to be over it when faced with the prospect that it could be bastardized in some way if others interfere (and I say that out of personal experience).

I think if Eva cared more about making money than creating her artistic vision, she'd be a lot less pedantic in her methods, and be open to more audience input - almost certainly to the detriment of the game itself (as we've seen in other games before).
Could be. I also suspect that she's splitting her own personal experiences and desires in half to write both characters: Her career and creative aspirations as well as friendships more informing her writing of Ian and her own fetishes, fantasies, stray sexual thoughts and relationship needs more informing the writing of Lena (as well as potential hardships and struggles). Maybe why Lena seems to be more of an empty character in some ways, but with more complex problems than Ian has.
This is a pretty good observation, actually. It would explain why Ian feels more 'real' and dynamic as a character then Lena's somewhat bland, 'too perfect' nature. She's the good, empathetic girl who is absolutely gorgeous, intelligent and creative (basically, she's an unrealistic ideal)... yet she lacks a feeling of true conviction with any of it. Perhaps it's because Lena isn't given a passion or drive for the things she's supposed to be interested in (modelling or making music) like Ian has for his writing career (or Eva with her writing career, where we see the parallels ;)). Whether the player chooses to have Lena follow the modelling career or focus on making music, or a combo of both, there's still never really a feeling of Lena investing herself deeply in either, which contributes to that feeling of a lack of depth and conviction to her personality. As I feel it, anyway.

Of course, Ian isn't perfectly realistic either - he still draws the women like he's some crazy walking pheromone, but somehow I find his personality engaging enough (and him driven enough for what he wants) to feel it believable that quite a few girls would be into him with his well-spoken, empathetic nature. Plus I find him somehow more attractive for the fact that he's not drop-dead gorgeous, and even a bit awkward and shy at the start. Ian may not be perfectly realistic but I genuinely enjoy following his side of the story every chapter, even outside the sex... which I can't always say for Lena, sadly.
 
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lifehacks

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My condolences to everyone who paid at PATREON money for the month of September regarding ORS.
Your last six posts have been about the slow development of this chapter, it comes as no shock to me that you aren't a patron of Eva. How can you be so mad, when you haven't even paid a dime? I wish you would be angry that my new car is delayed going two months now, or that I waited 45 minutes for a pizza yesterday. If you have nothing better to spend your time on.
 

dontcarewhateverno

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Maybe she got sick or a relative got sick or her cat
Or her relative got sick of her cat and so Eva adopted her cat but got sick since she's allergic. So she went to the doctor to get anti-allergy pills but then got sick there and almost died of covid because she stopped for fast food along the way and the girl in the drive-through window was sick. So then she thought "oh, wow. This is a lot to handle and I can't release an update this week because I'm almost dead, though I didn't die, good thing."

Why would you criticize someone on their near-deathbed or want someone to abandon their poor cat to a shelter that might kill them? Good thing Eva's a good person, but if I were you I'd be ashamed of myself. Cat murderers.

This post would be longer, but I'm off to pray to the great spaghetti monster of speculation in the sky. (That's his full name. I won't actually be going up into the sky to pray to him. Don't be silly).

But yeah, a personal thing could've come up too.
 
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dontcarewhateverno

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Your last six posts have been about the slow development of this chapter, it comes as no shock to me that you aren't a patron of Eva. How can you be so mad, when you haven't even paid a dime? I wish you would be angry that my new car is delayed going two months now, or that I waited 45 minutes for a pizza yesterday. If you have nothing better to spend your time on.
If it's any consolation, I'm angry that your new car is delayed going two months now (what's with that!?!) and that you waited 45 minutes for a pizza yesterday (hello gps?!? WTF driver!?!).

I can also see The Rickster's point on being butthurt that the thing he's getting for absolutely free might take a few more weeks because the dev cares about crap like quality and well-constructed story-lines over timely bobs and vagine deliveries. I haven't masturbated since June 6, 2021 and if my testicles burst on Oct 2 in the wait, I consider the fault entirely on Eva. Thanks for the wrecked scrotum, Evakiss. I really appreciate that you care more about game quality than the risk of my incinerated genitals. :mad:
 

FugginDamaged

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It's funny how the last pages of this whole conversation is just some people crying cause they didn't get a free product while people who paid for it are quite happy
right? some people are acting like she stole from them(even if they didn't pay her nothing), when she said very clearly that she was going to try finishing it in September but that was going to take a lot of work and she might not be able to do that. While also asking for an update every single second.
 

RC-1138 Boss

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It's funny how the last pages of this whole conversation is just some people crying cause they didn't get a free product while people who paid for it are quite happy
I repeat what i said before, (pirate) armchair devs are a blight. Always calling everyone else lazy or leechers while never moving their butts to try their hand at gaming development.
 

gazlene

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I'm surprised at the concern trolling. I've only seen that nonsense in politics. but trolls gonna troll, regardless of topic
 
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