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No way a year. GGGB is a shorter and less complex game and it took much longer than that. With how long ORS is shaping up to be and the complexity of it I'm assuming 3-4 years
i don't know is it because of very complex game or other reasons you were mentioning here but eva's updates are coming with more and more time distance between. now this one is coming close to 4 months between. and if continued that way it could be 3-4 years until end as you said.
now is it too much for one game to stretch in such long period? have update 3-4 times in year? i believe it is. with any other dev than eva i would say milking business, but here i believe she extended story too much so that enormous complexity and many paths and subpaths are going to create her even more problems in future. especially she is not type of author that will open one path and then just forget about it.
in my opinion this game should be divided in 2 separate games where you from the beginning decide are you going to play lena or ian. would be easier both to eva and us.
 
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The betting shops are running hot !!! October or November? Please place your bet!

Joking aside...

Don't forget, the more advanced the game and the updates, the more complex and time-consuming the updates will be. After all, we want to continue to have the same good quality as before.
 
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Chapter 9 weekly status report (6)

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I've been trying to write deep and interactive conversations and sex scenes that offer more than a simple yes/no, right/wrong choice, and maybe I'm making things more complicated than they should (what a surprise), especially in how the events are timed and linked together depending on your choices.
These focus points are obviously similar to every other chapter, but I'm looking forward to see if the structure of the events is even more complex in this chapter. Characters like Axel, Holly, Jeremy and Seymour are about to or have just recently become sexual options for the protagonists, and they're different to i.e. Mike and Alison in the sense that they're involved in both Lena's and Ian's side of the story to a much bigger extent. That definitely makes things more complex and the stories even more intertwined.

Taking Axel as an example, and assuming both Lena and Ian could meet him in this chapter (and that Lena and Ian are involved with each other), I'd be curious to see which scene she puts first and how she ties them together. If Axel meets Ian before Lena, he could tell Ian that he's photographing her soon, which he can use to get an upper hand in their "rivalry" over Lena. It will also in turn be coloured by whether Lena has told Ian about it herself. Or, if the scene between Axel and Ian leads to them becoming closer friends, it will obviously affect the implications if the later photoshoot leads to a sex scene between Axel and Lena.

If Lena and Axel's photoshoot happens before Ian and Axel meets, Axel could either have recently been turned down by Lena or have slept with her before the two guys meet. In the first scenario he could reluctantly accept defeat in his attempts to get Lena back (if he respects Ian enough), or he could be even more frustrated and angry at Ian's involvement with her. In the second scenario he could either keep quiet about it or be a smug asshole. Either way: Which scene Eva puts first in the story, will hugely affect how they'll play out.

Maybe Ian and Axel won't even meet in this chapter, and nothing close to this scenario will play out. But I suspect there'll generally be more of this kind of scenes, where the structure is vital to how they impact the overall story. Eva's been doing choices like this in the other chapters as well, it's just difficult to notice when the story flows so smoothly. But in this and the later episodes they'll probably be even more important, so I think it's more than OK that she's taking some extra time making sure everything's structured and tied together in the best possible way.
 

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Now that she updated the status, I bet the some of you will still complain ‘BuT iT’s aLmOst OcToBeR!?’

Looking forward to see how complicated she make the routes and consequences collide.

As for the location, I bet Lena falls prey to Axel at his apartment and Seymour at his work this chapter.
The problem isn't that it's almost october, 1 or 2 week more isn't a drama. The problem is that she said '' I would kick myself in the teeth so hard if I can't get this chapter out before the end of September'' why you have to do this sort of promises? This very common and childish for the creators. Nobody ask you a deadline but if you say that, you have to do that.
 

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There might be a budget concern but I do agree it's getting to the point where Eva will need more people to do various other tasks.
I'm sure there is a budget concern, which is why I'm suggesting profit sharing there. Fresh talent will often work for peanuts on their own in their spare time when getting into an exciting industry new to them, like games. But that's exploitative and promotes burn-out when it's someone else's project. When profit-sharing is offered on top of minimal pay, it's a personal investment above "work for experience" and contributors feel more like a real part of the project, with a solid financial payoff if the project is successful (great motivation to do it well). Biggest hurdle, of course, is finding the right people. But that's always a hurdle. I think Eva's got enough hype and solid past work to attract the right people to her project though.
 

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The problem isn't that it's almost october, 1 or 2 week more isn't a drama. The problem is that she said '' I would kick myself in the teeth so hard if I can't get this chapter out before the end of September'' why you have to do this sort of promises? This very common and childish for the creators. Nobody ask you a deadline but if you say that, you have to do that.
Maybe he / she no longer has teeth, which is why this statement was easy. :LOL:
What I would wish from developers (in general) is that they are simply honest and say they are privately and professionally busy and have no time to develop the game. I would understand that because ultimately developing these "games" is just a hobby.
But it will probably never happen because they know that the number of paying Patreons will drop rapidly.
Ultimately, we have to take it as it comes. Everything is a can, not a must!
 

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The problem isn't that it's almost october, 1 or 2 week more isn't a drama. The problem is that she said '' I would kick myself in the teeth so hard if I can't get this chapter out before the end of September'' why you have to do this sort of promises? This very common and childish for the creators. Nobody ask you a deadline but if you say that, you have to do that.
Yeah. Why you say this Evakiss when now is 9 months from my blonde queen to be fucked harder now alreadys? Very imature of you Evakiss to keeping me from my girlfriend this long. We do not care for qualitys when you promises and now my dating life is suck until you releases. Whereis my Cindys!?!
 
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The problem isn't that it's almost october, 1 or 2 week more isn't a drama. The problem is that she said '' I would kick myself in the teeth so hard if I can't get this chapter out before the end of September'' why you have to do this sort of promises? This very common and childish for the creators. Nobody ask you a deadline but if you say that, you have to do that.
That's not a problem here because so far she hasn't been the usual milker moving deadlines every month.
She was trying to deliver the update in September because she knows she's late with this update.
Nothing wrong with that as long as it doesn't become a habit.
 

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That's not a problem here because so far she hasn't been the usual milker moving deadlines every month.
She was trying to deliver the update in September because she knows she's late with this update.
Nothing wrong with that as long as it doesn't become a habit.
I never said she's a milker, she's a great creator just i don't understand why u have to say things like this and put yourself on pressure. Nobody ask her to deliver before september end, if you want to deliver it but you aren't sure, then try without saying a word. I'ts just unnecessary.
 

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I never said she's a milker, she's a great creator just i don't understand why u have to say things like this and put yourself on pressure. Nobody ask her to deliver before september end, if you want to deliver it but you aren't sure, then try without saying a word. I'ts just unnecessary.
Radio silence would be worse imo.
 

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The problem isn't that it's almost october, 1 or 2 week more isn't a drama. The problem is that she said '' I would kick myself in the teeth so hard if I can't get this chapter out before the end of September'' why you have to do this sort of promises? This very common and childish for the creators. Nobody ask you a deadline but if you say that, you have to do that.
I don’t think she meant it literally? It’s just a saying, like “I’d feel so I bad if I couldn’t do it.” is it not? She did not say it would definitely be released in September. She only said she’d try her best to get it out, which it may or may not be completed by September.

That is not a promise nor a release date, not really, if you understand the language.
 
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Thinking about making a fan mod for ORS to add 2 or 3 extra male love interests for Lena, with an update about a month after each of Eva's chapter release.
Would just be a hobby thing with a couple of hours each week put into it, in between working on my own game (LifePlay is a 3d sandbox so taking the occasional breaks to write a little story and make some 2d art would be a mind refresher in a way)
The art obviously won't be that consistent with original art though.
The thing is, I don't want to overlap with whatever character archetypes Eva is already planning in the base game, so does anyone know if she's still adding more characters or the current cast is final already?
Majority of characters she adds for Lena that aren't already in the game will likely be at Billy's party, modeling shoot, or whatever he's pitching to get the girls naked and lubed. I'm sure there will be some stray characters here and there as well. Hard to say since the game's not halfway done, but likely most major love interests are already introduced.

Missing: Big, fat, nasty, old trucker with a sweaty pit-stained shirt and a filthier mind. Maybe some of his trucker buddies too, if you want to make Lena a truck-stop tart for her discrete nympho route. Plus a way for her to pick up a little extra cash on the side along with a dirty thrill. Dirty older men at an adult theatre & gloryhole are also an option. I don't think Eva will be adding that content for Lena, but you're sure to have some fans.

Throw in a breeding/milking fetish and an unwinnable game of "who's the daddy?" and you'll please another subset. Eva will likely make pregnancy an option, but I doubt she'll go far into the fetish. I'd probably do this separately from the truckstop/adult theatre content, like a strange fascination Lena develops from watching some reality show or a "real-life" observation, then down an internet porn rabbit-hole into a personal ad for some healthy swimmers and a party at a local motel. You'd probably have to coincide it with a point in the game where Lena can actually get pregnant though, due to the necessary graphic changes.
 
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Thinking about making a fan mod for ORS to add 2 or 3 extra male love interests for Lena, with an update about a month after each of Eva's chapter release.
Would just be a hobby thing with a couple of hours each week put into it, in between working on my own game (LifePlay is a 3d sandbox so taking the occasional breaks to write a little story and make some 2d art would be a mind refresher in a way)
The art obviously won't be that consistent with original art though.
The thing is, I don't want to overlap with whatever character archetypes Eva is already planning in the base game, so does anyone know if she's still adding more characters or the current cast is final already? IIRC, the last male love interest that was introduced in GGGB was Ryan and he was introduced less than halfway through the story, right? So we should be at a similar stage for ORS?
Iirc, Eva mentioned that she's already introduced all the main characters (those who have routes), so the characters we have in the game now are likely all we're getting in terms of sex and relationship options.
Any others that appear will likely only be brought in for scenes where a corrupted Lena (or other female character) pleases a bunch of guys at once, and won't have a purpose beyond that. That's my guess anyway.
 

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I'm concern about Eva as well. For me, she is the better writer in this AVNs today and i'm really affraid she could get a writer's block or a burnout forcing herself like this. I prefer she takes easy even if will mean more time for next chapters
I'm afraid there's no taking it easy anymore. Regardless of how long she takes, there will always be a huge web of routes and variables to untangle to plan the next chapter and avoid inconsistencies.
it would be quite hard for her to hire others besides her current team of artists, and testers
Testers are volunteers. We don't get paid extra for our effort.
Dude, you should quit that daytime job and start devoting your whole life to making guides for porn games :whistle:
Are you volunteering to become my sugar-daddy and fund me so I could afford not to work? :D
The thing is, I don't want to overlap with whatever character archetypes Eva is already planning in the base game, so does anyone know if she's still adding more characters or the current cast is final already? IIRC, the last male love interest that was introduced in GGGB was Ryan and he was introduced less than halfway through the story, right? So we should be at a similar stage for ORS?
There's no way to know for sure. I bet not even Eva knows at this point. Sometimes she acts spontaneously. Inspiration might hit her to include another wholesome male character that Lena could date. So far the flaws of everyone except Ian outweigh their positive qualities. Jeremy and Mike wouldn't be so bad if they weren't already taken. Stan is out of Lena's league, and dating isn't a charity. Seymour and Axel are the antagonists that want to exploit Lena or make her submit. I personally wouldn't mind if Lena could date Perry or Wade (after he becomes single), but only if they were less toxic. Having one more single male character who is not an asshole/loser and could really compete with Ian would be good for Lena's side of the story, so I won't hold by breath. However, there is bloat to consider. I don't think there's enough time to introduce and flesh out another main cast member.
 
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