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I don't think it's FFM specifically, more like threesome in general. Whether it would be FFM or MMF depends on which fetish Lena prefers I guess.
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I would like to tell you that you should try out "Wifey´s Dilemma revisited"(is on site). You have several routes you can go in it. From full romance to "Stag" sharing, voyeuristic, but still loving sharing, voyeuristic sharing trending towards cuckolding, cuckolding, but still in a relationship, hard cuckolding and finally NTR, both "soft" and hard possible. It depends on your decisions, the traits/achivements you take/gain, the traits your wife gains which path you end on.
It is still early in development, but shows really good potential.
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If a degenerate like Arthur gets to have a happy ending in GGGB, then I'm pretty sure that any main character in ORS will get to have one. It's how Eva rolls. The variety of choices is what makes her games shine.
Breaking up Cindy and Wade is a 'bad' choice if Ian is a well-adjusted adult, a loyal friend, or a soy boy like Perry. I play him as a nasty, physical beast, an unapologetic high-functioning psychopath who doesn't give a fuck about bums like Wade and Perry. From his point of view, a loser like Wade should be thankful Ian only kicked his fat ass out of his girlfriend's bed and hasn't low-kicked him out of existence yet.
In fact, my canon Ian isn't even that interested in Cindy after having slept with her since she's low-hanging fruit, and he's aiming much higher. He wants to demolish Ivy's emotional barriers with his slightly above-average cock, make her fall in love with him, and crash at her pimped-out pad, sticking his beak in that stalkfap/hush-hush escort money. Or even better -- pressure Minerva into divorcing her cucked husband and giving up custody of her son so Ian can move in with her and drive around in the black SUV.
Knowing Eva's previous work, I'll be disappointed if by the end of the game, Ian doesn't have the option to make his Pulitzer acceptance speech high on coke.
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This didn't start from Lena's side, back in a previous chapter during Ivy's party the guys were sharing their sexual fantasy and Ian said sex with two girls. In the prologue Lena reminds him of that and says let's do it provided you chose to experiment together during the relationship decision in ch9
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So Lena can still give MFF a try even though, let's say, she prefers MMF?
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She did it before with Axel and Sherry and Jeremy and Louise too if you went that route so why not ? If she loves Ian enough to do it for him
Will try Blurred Lines out too. Thanks!TRUEEEEEEE I tired if for 2 min too KEKW eva games qualitie is sadly very rare and thats why I hope eva will never switch to the harem side and stays a corruption writter her storytelling and corruption scenarios (for example alison,jeremy ian treesome if ian underperforms) are the hottest things ever from visuals to the explosive writting she is way ahead of everyone else its insane
sadly evakiss is very special and unique dev
the only games that come to my mind are ofc our red string,Blurred lines is new and has potential keep an eye on that one,long story short,seeds of chaos(very good corruption but clicking is annoying and its fantasy if you like that but the wife is 11/10) and than their are some other amazing ntr games but not many good ones
Don't want a huge back-and-forth, so just replying to this portion. Of course it's more plausible and natural. A lot more. Couples into that kink/lifestyle are real and in long-term permanent relationships with each other, whether living together or married. With few if any exceptions, those long-term partners still have sex with each other and have some sort of mutual respect and bond, usually just playing out a kink or fantasy together for spice. Without that sort of connection and genuine need for each other beyond a kink, the relationship would fall apart very quickly. The whole cruel-mistress wife/never-inside husband or findom/paypig thing is the stuff of S&M fantasies alone, or some simp paying some camwhore online for private humiliation sessions. A couple could play-act it occasionally, but few if any would/could carry that sort of thing permanently in a real long-term relationship. Everything else is the stuff of exaggerated, poorly written erotica.
You're basically just speaking with authority on something you have no familiarity with, assuming your gut feeling is as good as any.
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In playing Ian I found myself gravitating towards Lena, Cindy and Minerva more by accident than design. Ivy and Louise just didn't do anything for me in fact I found both of them irritating but to each their own I guess. I closed off the Holly path by picking Cindy i guess.
No, they dont need to be in an open relationship, it works in a comitted relationship too.
We're perhaps thinking about two different things. Based on your description, it sounded to me you're talking about an arrangement where one person sleeps around as they please and occasionally "teases" the other about being a little, worthless cuck, but both sides still remaining loving and respectful for each other.
"Playful teasing" about person being essentially worthless simply doesn't remain just teasing with no impact on the relationship. Keep it up long enough and it will get under the skin of person who keeps hearing they're worthless, and take a root in the mind of the person who does the "teasing", as well. Maintaining a good, equivalent relationship in such situation becomes increasingly difficult. The implausible/unrealistic aspect i was referring to was apparent expectations such thing will have no effect on relationship dynamic and the pair will remain as loving and respectful for each other as they ever were.
I think you're presuming way too much here, and coming strongly as someone who tries to speak from position of authority yourself.
That's correct. In fact, this scene offers the player second chance to set Lena/Ian relationship as "open", if they haven't done so when it was initially formed. (picking
We could give it a try activates the relevant flag)Agreed, depending on your definition of "open". An open relationship implies the possibility to sleep around without one's partner present, while in this instance Lena does sayè "as long as we do it together".
I think this is sort of universal interpretation for Eva's games -- it's similar in Good Girl Gone Bad, where "open relationship" was effectively the MC and her partner having sex with some third party together, and sleeping with someone behind the partner's back would activate cheating route(s).
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Just chiming in that those things are usually a matter of degrees and compartmentalization. What you are describing is essentially the worst case scenario of taking it to the max (refering to someone as worthless in a general sense) with the person on the giving end having a sadistic streak and imposing it on the person on the receiving end who is not really into it but isn't putting a stop to their partner (could be an introvert person with low self-esteem but that doesn't really have that kind of masochistic kink).
Usually the lighter approaches can be as simple as the person doing the teasing talking to their partner about how they have the hots for another person, or about how other people could give them a better sexual experience in some aspects. As long as those types of comments and attitudes are kept to specific circumstances and plays then both sides can be comfortable with it without it damaging a mutually respectful relationship. You were asking for games that do this lighter approach thing, there is Indecent Wife Hana, it does a decent amount of building it up without rushing it and exploring the protagonist's thoughts (the one being teased/cucked), him and his wife also keep having normal "healthy" sex thoroughout the story although those scenes are shortened up/omitted later on for story pacing reasons.
The issue with porn games, and EK's games are no different from this, is that usually story progression is tied to escalating the existing fetishes as much as possible. I think the logic is that you need to have something to hook the player into coming back to play the game in a future session, if it feels like it is more of the same and the rest of the game doesn't have the quality to stand in its own merits, the idea is to intensify what the player previously enjoyed and take it to the next level so it doesn't end up feeling like just more of the same. This is usually fine since porn is about exploring all kinds of fantasies, no matter how ridiculous or unfeasible.
The problem is that sometimes this makes it so a specific dynamic a person is enjoying gets rushed onto something they aren't particularly interested on, but that's just an inherent struggle of games aiming for broader appeal. It is better to shoot for all the extremes to cover more ground and hope the people that wanted a more "middle of the road" approach at least appreciate the buildup parts of it. And in the specific case of ORS, I think that a player that wants that could just do the open relationship but only have 1 of the characters sleeping with other people a lot while the other one only stays in the route with their SO. Such a dynamic probably won't hijack the story into being its own "light teasing" route or have unique scenes, but the variable dialogue of the game could address it.
To be fair, that's kinda how it works with Eric at the start of GGGB, but the "open relationship" at the end of the game would allow the MC to sleep with other people without it being considered cheating (although I think the wording for it there was a "liberal relationship"? Maybe it is just a Eva Kiss wording kink or something), just a shame that arrangement required a bimbo Ashley and it was portrayed essentially as "MC is just too much of a sex demon to be with 1 person even if she really loves them now and so she seduces and manipulates their partner into agreeing to it" rather than a mutual thing.
I think you're underestimating the extent of effect the "lighter approach" can have over long term. The worthlessness i mentioned wasn't specifically what the person would be told, it's just how it can eventually start to build up and feel for the recipient, after repeatedly hearing relatively minor remarks like you describe. It also doesn't require any sort of sadistic streak from the partner. It's not unlike propaganda works, through repetition that over time molds both the recipient and the provider who can wind up buying their own shit.
Compartmentalization can work, but often only to certain degree and then it doesn't. We aren't all perfect robots and things can easily spill from their neat mental boxes.
To be fair this isn't far off from how people wind up experimenting with different sexual kinks, because they grow bored of doing the same thing and with the same partner all the time.
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Which is why people that practice those kinks have things like aftercare and rest periods, to counteract the "propaganda" effect and give reassurance that it was done as part of a play. If it was nothing but incessant demeaning remarks and humiliating actions and then "wham bam see ya later" then I would agree with you that it would be hard to fathom a healthy relationship between two healthy individuals with such a dynamic.
Ironically enough, I have seen some rationalizations of why carefully done plays can actually be helpful to people with low self-esteem, although this is more of a sidenote because it would start entering "why any sexual kink" territory.
Yeah, but it isn't like everyone wants to explore every kink to their logical extreme. Boredom is not inevitable and even then people can still draw lines of up to which point they actually enjoy a kink. People are more likely to skirt around this line here and there when it comes to porn because of how low commital and inexpensive/inoffensive it is, but it is not like it is ad infinitum. And being honest in well-written or otherwise good adult games, it kinda sucks when it feels like some fetishes are taken too far, even in detriment of the story, just because of the expectation that the porn always needs to be escalated further and further to keep the story going.