GodOfAll

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Just take a slight look at patreon you will know how many people are set with the mind "Ian is a cuck".
This might sound dumb but... shouldn't she implement that then? All people here are on a pirating platform.. If this is the thing the people that PAY for it want, isn't that all the reason to include it? Praise from this thread doesn't make the numbers of her bank account go up, so by all means, shouldn't she cater to those people? Jeremy was also number 1 on the charts for males. If those that actively support that project want that content, where's the problem?This perspective might be rare on this site, but im a pirate. I don't really support much but if people that pay want that content they should get it. If the whole game turns into a bbc orgy because investors want that, and are willing to pay for it, why shouldn't the creator of the work do that? I understand if people don't like fetishes, but complaining on this site is not really productive. I mean, we had the same posts FOR YEARS
 

Xupuzulla

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Sorry to ask, but did that actually happen in the game?
I think Ivy might have mentioned it that she and Mike have a history. I'm not really sure, haven't played it for a while. And Ivy could give Jeremy a bj in a game or something, I couldn't recall anything about she and Jeremy having sex though.
Would you mind to point out in which part of the game did that happen?
Both in the chapter 11 epilogue.
Is pretty much confirmed Ivy fucked Mike.
If you help Jeremy with Ivy she leaves the night club with him so even through is not confirmed is not hard to believe he either fucks her or at least gets another bj.
 

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...I am not sure that Ian can show her that he is better before Axel would score. But if he can... Than good for you! And I will be happy to beat the shit out of Axel if Ian would ever get the possibility.
Ian already did Cindy feels much more emotional connection with Ian and she indulged with Ian bcz of that whether it is cheating/romantic path Ian is offering her what Wade do not. You can see it in their interactions where Axel only serves as the cool guy who can lift her in her professional life that's all. While Ian provides more Emotional support, takes care of her and she is giving in slowly as we see she gives Ian blowjob if satisfaction of Cindy is 3, But of all Ian takes care of Cindy's emotional + physical needs.
 

dengl

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Sorry to ask, but did that actually happen in the game?
I think Ivy might have mentioned it that she and Mike have a history. I'm not really sure, haven't played it for a while. And Ivy could give Jeremy a bj in a game or something, I couldn't recall anything about she and Jeremy having sex though.
Would you mind to point out in which part of the game did that happen?
Ivy admitted it she fucks Mike for fun.
If you give approval from both Ian and Lena Ivy will let Jeremy hops on her car. We will see if he fucked her or not in Ch.12
If Ian and Lena did not put in good words then Ivy will still continue to trash him in this epilogue.
 

ffive

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1) I am not sure this is whether or not dev's insight but it definitely is not the case. GGGB was not more unrealistic than ORS per se.
Arthur using magical drugs to make his daughter and his son's girlfriend addicted to his cock begs to differ.

Wimpy boyfriend turning into gigachad after close brush with terrorists in Aftica and returning just in time to save his girlfriend from a rapist... well, i'm not saying it never happened outside of movies but, you know.
 
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Socrambus

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...money and stability more than that, yeah. And a chance to get life of your dreams, of course. You do know that those are things Axel have more of than Ian, right?

I get your point that Cindy is not a whore in search of big cock. And I agree! She is not a whore who would just jump anyone sexy. No, she wants the best and not only in the sex department. But that is precisely my point. She doesn't want to choose just someone, she doesn't want to be content with a mid life, she is tired of it. No, Cindy wants it all! And... Lo and behold! Axel! The King! The Golden Boy! The Key to make all your dreams come true!

He has more influence on her because he is like a perfect prince charming from her very own fantasy in almost every way (except the heart, but she can't know that). It's hard to beat that. Nobody wants to believe that their dream is an illusion, even moreso when it looks like you can grab it!

I am not sure that Ian can show her that he is better before Axel would score. But if he can... Than good for you! And I will be happy to beat the shit out of Axel if Ian would ever get the possibility.
I don't disagree with your point. Although I'm not really sure about how rich and influent Axel really is, he clearly seems to be well off with his photography and modeling gigs, but he also seems subservient to the really rich like Seymour. And he seems influent but he fails to deliver on his promise to Ivy and Lena. Then again, it might not be relevant to what we are discussing, it's more about Cindy's perception of him than what he really is.


This might sound dumb but... shouldn't she implement that then? All people here are on a pirating platform.. If this is the thing the people that PAY for it want, isn't that all the reason to include it? Praise from this thread doesn't make the numbers of her bank account go up, so by all means, shouldn't she cater to those people? Jeremy was also number 1 on the charts for males. If those that actively support that project want that content, where's the problem?This perspective might be rare on this site, but im a pirate. I don't really support much but if people that pay want that content they should get it. If the whole game turns into a bbc orgy because investors want that, and are willing to pay for it, why shouldn't the creator of the work do that? I understand if people don't like fetishes, but complaining on this site is not really productive. I mean, we had the same posts FOR YEARS
Ideally an autor should deliver her vision, not ours, not her patrons'. But in the real world we all like money, so I can understand and at the end of the day I don't feel entitled to complain too much (or at all). That said, the good thing for this game is its "your choices matter" thing so potentially the author can try to please everyone (including herself). So I'll wait until the end before rating the game.
 
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Also conveniently forgetting that Ian has fucking holly. He has a girl lusting after him that is literally the "cute needy but still good-looking virgin" trope incarnate as a romance option. Lena only got fucking stan.
Lena also has Holly but with more content (including two different threesome scenes with Ivy) and it is far easier route to do and doesn't conflict with others other than dating/loving Ian.
 
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Sean Poon

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Perfect. Cuck Ian route ftw
How does everyone just know what this is? Seems every way I play Ian, simping for girls/ignoring girls, simping for Lena, I can't get him to talk about the nightmare with Gillian.

What is "the cuck route?"
 

Fellas

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i don't have a single playthrough where Lena is back with Axel again.

The sense I get of Lena from early chapters makes it seem to me like she really want to distance herself from Axel. Moving away, told Ivy not to tell Axel where she lived, etc. So i don't have a single playthrough where Lena is falling for Axel.

On the other hand, the sense I get of Ian is more half-half about Gillian. So on many of my playthrough, Ian is not over Gillian yet.
Yet Lena and Axel get one of the hottest sex scene of the game. And we're far from IanxGillian scenes:cautious:
 

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How does everyone just know what this is? Seems every way I play Ian, simping for girls/ignoring girls, simping for Lena, I can't get him to talk about the nightmare with Gillian.

What is "the cuck route?"
In the code and walkthrough, the variable is even called cuck. Its also in-game shown by the sad smiley.
It starts in chapter 10 when Ian and Lena are together. If Lena is unfaithfull to Ian, she gives him a handjob and Ian can decide to start the route by asking her how he compares to previous boyfriends. It goes on in further scenes, with Lena denying sex, teasing him etc.
 

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Ian is offering her what Wade do not.
Yes he does. Would that be enough, though? He is not competing with Wade.

Axel only serves as the cool guy who can lift her in her professional life that's all.
Do you have any idea how many girls would go with the cool guy even without career offerings? A lot. And how many DNA test showed that husband isn't biological father? So many that it's ridiculous. Jocks and so called chads are popular for a reason even though they aren't great at emotional support.

Listen, I take no pleasure in speaking good about Axel so maybe you wouldn't try to discard my argument by saying that just a cool guy can't possibly beat Ian? Because he is anything but just a cool guy. And Cindy reaction shows that.
 

Socrambus

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Do you have any idea how many girls would go with the cool guy even without career offerings? A lot. And how many DNA test showed that husband isn't biological father? So many that it's ridiculous. Jocks and so called chads are popular for a reason even though they aren't great at emotional support.

Listen, I take no pleasure in speaking good about Axel so maybe you wouldn't try to discard my argument by saying that just a cool guy can't possibly beat Ian? Because he is anything but just a cool guy. And Cindy reaction shows that.
Once again, everything you said is true. But call me a naive romantic or maybe a fool in a few updates, but I think Cindy is the kind of girl who needs an emotional connection before sex. What makes me thing that is her sexual behaviour with Ian, she's a hot girl and she shows a lack of experience compared to more "physical" girls like Cherry or Lena. Now if you are just fucking her for the sex or you say you love her but you continue to fuck others, she's also the kind of girl who would absolutely fuck a guy just to spite you. But I think that if you choose Ian doing things right, there might be a bittersweet ending (Ian and Cindy's relationships with the rest of the group might not end well).
 

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Yes he does. Would that be enough, though? He is not competing with Wade.


Do you have any idea how many girls would go with the cool guy even without career offerings? A lot. And how many DNA test showed that husband isn't biological father? So many that it's ridiculous. Jocks and so called chads are popular for a reason even though they aren't great at emotional support.

Listen, I take no pleasure in speaking good about Axel so maybe you wouldn't try to discard my argument by saying that just a cool guy can't possibly beat Ian? Because he is anything but just a cool guy. And Cindy reaction shows that.
Fair or not, this is true. One of my oldest, closest friends is a "Chad." He's a good guy, actually, not like Axel at all, but he draws women in ways I wouldn't believe if I didn't see it firsthand. He doesn't even need to try. He is nice-looking, but not THAT nice looking and now in his mid-50s he's overweight and gray and still women half his age flirt with him and give him clear signals they would sleep with him. As you can imagine, when he was younger he regularly took advantage of such encounters. He does so less often now, but it's still mind boggling to me how effortless it happens for him.

I don't know if there are pheromones or some other subliminal chemistry at work, but from what I can see he just exudes confidence, even though (like most humans) he has plenty of insecurities. He has always carried himself and talked in a way that presents himself as utterly secure. Not arrogant, just self-possessed.
 
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Yep,not playing the Axel and Seymour routes is like reading a book and skipping chapters,you are missing alot info about the sex maniac known as Lena.
It's not the same though. It's like a tv series that its chapters are not connected together. You can watch all of it or skip a few chapters without having any drawbacks. At least half of the routes does not interesting enough for me, so why should I suffer through it? I play the routes I like and I play them thoroughly, it is honestly enough for me.
 
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