VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.13.2 Full] [Eva Kiss]

[what the fug]

Is the version in the OP download link still bugged (e.g. Cindy scene plays abruptly when you're not on that path)? I get this is a "prologue" but I don't know if the developer does bugfixes on releases of this length.

Alternatively, if someone knows what I need to edit in the files to make the Cindy stuff not happen, I can try to figure it out myself.

 

[jollyjoker27]

My only issue with it is that it's a forced outcome, like Ian and Axel.

That just made me think. Wasn´t there a route where Ian and Axel could become friendly and even hang out one time?
I know it´s not in my main playthroughs but I haven´t seen it the last few times I tried different routes.
Maybe it was talked about and I just didn´t notice but has this been cut/reworked, too?

 

[nevt2050ptr]

That just made me think. Wasn´t there a route where Ian and Axel could become friendly and even hang out one time?
I know it´s not in my main playthroughs but I haven´t seen it the last few times I tried different routes.
Maybe it was talked about and I just didn´t notice but has this been cut/reworked, too?

It has been cut in rework of ch.9

 

[jollyjoker27]

It has been cut in rework of ch.9

Right, that makes sense then, I guess. Still kinda unfortunate but oh well.

 

[GokutheG]

It has been cut in rework of ch.9

This really doesn't make sense to me. What is the point of Ian being able to gain points with Alex if it leads to no impact on the story? I was disappointed that there wasn't a friendlier resolution with Axel at Ivy's birthday party if the two aren't dating.

 

[foxloversi]

Is there a way to have a loving IanxLena relationship, where they're dating and all, but agree to an open relationship? I had tried it but always failed. In one play Ian fucked Holly while visiting the book festival and when Lena found out, she broke up with him and Holly did so as well, basically he lost them both. In another, I had Lena seduce Jeremy and then she refused Ian to become his girlfriend, although they were still FWB. I know there's a cuckold path for Ian as well but I'm not interested in that branch, it just makes no sense for him to remain in a sexless relationship as a complete wimp while he dominates his boss and Alison.

In my opinion they work best as a loving couple, but with lax boundaries. Like a stag-vixen kind of relationship. Are we even that far story-wise? Will this be an option at all?

 

[dontcarewhateverno]

Imagin cindy is coming back from the trip the pussy full of cum and she lets ian lick just a new shampoo lotion dont worry ian I LOVEEE you so much

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cindy after the trip KEKW

Why the fuck did I click that link.

 

[Sethmsf]

Is there a way to have a loving IanxLena relationship, where they're dating and all, but agree to an open relationship? I had tried it but always failed. In one play Ian fucked Holly while visiting the book festival and when Lena found out, she broke up with him and Holly did so as well, basically he lost them both. In another, I had Lena seduce Jeremy and then she refused Ian to become his girlfriend, although they were still FWB. I know there's a cuckold path for Ian as well but I'm not interested in that branch, it just makes no sense for him to remain in a sexless relationship as a complete wimp while he dominates his boss and Alison.

In my opinion they work best as a loving couple, but with lax boundaries. Like a stag-vixen kind of relationship. Are we even that far story-wise? Will this be an option at all?

You make it sound like your Ian had tripped and put his cock in Holly or like your Lena fell and accidentally put Jeremy's cock in her mouth hahahaha.
you can have an open relationship and also a cuckold relationship with sex or a dominant one if you prefer; The open relationship does not mean that Lena or Ian can fuck everyone without it counting as infidelity

 

[dontcarewhateverno]

Is there a way to have a loving IanxLena relationship, where they're dating and all, but agree to an open relationship? I had tried it but always failed. In one play Ian fucked Holly while visiting the book festival and when Lena found out, she broke up with him and Holly did so as well, basically he lost them both. In another, I had Lena seduce Jeremy and then she refused Ian to become his girlfriend, although they were still FWB. I know there's a cuckold path for Ian as well but I'm not interested in that branch, it just makes no sense for him to remain in a sexless relationship as a complete wimp while he dominates his boss and Alison.

In my opinion they work best as a loving couple, but with lax boundaries. Like a stag-vixen kind of relationship. Are we even that far story-wise? Will this be an option at all?

You can do an open relationship option, but as of now the functions of it seem vestigial. Ian/Lena couple option still lets you go threesome with Louise + open relationship still locks you out of the same sex paths that being a couple would (there might be a few minor text differences. Unsure).

Maybe there will be some development for it in the future though. So to get it:
1. Lena can't have had any sexual contact with Jeremy before chapter 9-10 (whichever chapter that relationship talk is) other than the truth or dare game in chapter 7 where you can have her slurp down to her heart's content.
2. Ian has to either have a heart relationship with another girl in addition to Lena or has to have Lust up to a certain stat. Forgot if it was 5 or 6.
3. Lena has to have a heart relationship with another character as well.

IMO, Eva's made the option's accessibility a little too unnecessarily rigid.

Note: There might be a certain friendship/love level needed with another character beyond just having a heart. If so, I'm not sure what that would be.

 

[Sethmsf]

You can do an open relationship option, but as of now the functions of it seem vestigial. Ian/Lena couple option still lets you go threesome with Louise + open relationship still locks you out of the same sex paths that being a couple would (there might be a few minor text differences. Unsure).

Maybe there will be some development for it in the future though. So to get it:
1. Lena can't have had any sexual contact with Jeremy before chapter 9-10 (whichever chapter that relationship talk is) other than the truth or dare game in chapter 7 where you can have her slurp down to her heart's content.
2. Ian has to either have a heart relationship with another girl in addition to Lena or has to have Lust up to a certain stat. Forgot if it was 5 or 6.
3. Lena has to have a heart relationship with another character as well.

Note: There might be a certain friendship/love level needed with another character beyond just having a heart. If so, I'm not sure what that would be.

If I'm not mistaken, if you have a closed relationship and you agree to try a threesome, in the game variables it becomes an open relationship; May one of the data explorers correct me because I read that in a guide and I could be wrong.

 

[dontcarewhateverno]

If I'm not mistaken, if you have a closed relationship and you agree to try a threesome, in the game variables it becomes an open relationship; May one of the data explorers correct me because I read that in a guide and I could be wrong.

That might be better game design if so, giving you a second entry point - no pun intended. I had thought the option in Chap 9 (or whenever "the talk" happens) was a little too rigid and not very smart design.

 

[Sethmsf]

That might be better game design if so, giving you a second entry point - no pun intended. I had thought the option in Chap 9 (or whenever "the talk" happens) was a little too rigid and not very smart design.

I have left you the screenshot in the previous post, to me the idea that by trying to have a threesome the relationship automatically becomes open seems a bit forced too, I think it can be closed and try some things together before deciding whether to open it or not for more experiments

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

Is there a way to have a loving IanxLena relationship, where they're dating and all, but agree to an open relationship? I had tried it but always failed. In one play Ian fucked Holly while visiting the book festival and when Lena found out, she broke up with him and Holly did so as well, basically he lost them both. In another, I had Lena seduce Jeremy and then she refused Ian to become his girlfriend, although they were still FWB. I know there's a cuckold path for Ian as well but I'm not interested in that branch, it just makes no sense for him to remain in a sexless relationship as a complete wimp while he dominates his boss and Alison.

In my opinion they work best as a loving couple, but with lax boundaries. Like a stag-vixen kind of relationship. Are we even that far story-wise? Will this be an option at all?

No.

The open relationship variable does nearly nothing as you can see, only a few dialogue switches - and allows them to discuss the later threesome if Lena has low lust.

I understand what you're getting at with your overall post, and the answer is again no. I'd very much like a path like this myself, and as someone who's spent hours browsing and modding the scripts, it's quite clear evakass has no interest in something like this, and far prefers the bullying/cheating themes.

This is extremely evident with how the "ian_cuck" path flows; it's binary, once you're on it, you can get off it by answering "nah I dont wanna hear those stories of your professor" during the footjob scene (iirc there are some other places to get off it), point is, it's either sexless ian with humiliation, or full relationship with fucking, and Lena keeps any indiscretions secret. Again, it's crystal clear what eva likes to anyone who's read the code at length.

Don't listen to the others trying to offer half-cocked story-based refutations of this. The reality is some code segments just aren't that developed (which is understandable, only so much time in the day for dev). Another example of this is the part with Lena-Ian relationship start you mentioned. The Lena-Ian relationship fork is conditioned on NOT v8_jeremy_sex, yet then under that condition branch, there are additional checks for v8_jeremy_sex, so it's not clear from the sloppy coding if that was supposed to block the whole fork or not.

Having said all that, Alison has a few variables that look to leave future options for stuff like that open, unfortunately, it looks like it'll just be with Jeremy again - I'd expect a future 2nd threesome scene with them in a future update.

 

[dontcarewhateverno]

I understand what you're getting at with your overall post, and the answer is again no. I'd very much like a path like this myself, and as someone who's spent hours browsing and modding the scripts, it's quite clear evakass has no interest in something like this, and far prefers the bullying/cheating themes.

This is extremely evident with how the "ian_cuck" path flows; it's binary, once you're on it, you can get off it by answering "nah I dont wanna hear those stories of your professor" during the footjob scene (iirc there are some other places to get off it), point is, it's either sexless ian with humiliation, or full relationship with fucking, and Lena keeps any indiscretions secret. Again, it's crystal clear what eva likes to anyone who's read the code at length.

Yeah. That binary which was evident by the Chapter 11 prologue was my biggest disappointment in the game so far. Still making due with other paths I find interesting, but I'm off that specific path now.

 

[ffive]

Is the version in the OP download link still bugged (e.g. Cindy scene plays abruptly when you're not on that path)? I get this is a "prologue" but I don't know if the developer does bugfixes on releases of this length.

The version in the OP has some remaining bugs (e.g. no texts for Ian with more than 1 coin) but the Cindy scene bug in particular is fixed.

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

Yeah. That binary which was evident by the Chapter 11 prologue was my biggest disappointment in the game so far. Still making due with other paths I find interesting, but I'm off that specific path now.

That's what I wanted, a path with Lena where Ian could just be straight-up like; "I'm fucking around, you're fucking around, no problem, we don't need to be sketch about it...".

Instead you get this crap where she jerks him off while telling him about sleeping around, why isn't there an option to say something like "I don't care that you're sleeping around and honest about it, but we're not gonna do this handjob bullshit."

 

[Zara Scarlet]

I think Dromedari was being facetious and actually agrees with you that it's all based on player choice. Unless you caught that and were just backing them up.

Yeah I got that, those comments weren't aimed at him at all. I was just continuing my earlier disagreement, with those who seem to believe that Lena is a slut whatever choices you make.

 

[Zara Scarlet]

I use this method as a Jiu Jitsu master.

Round 1: Attack - grapple - Attack and shoot - Throw him - Secure the position - Tie him up -> Provoke - Grapple - Throw him - Submit him.

Round 2: Dodge -> Guard up - Block - Take him down - Pin him down - Submit him - Go to submission

At the start of Round 2, Ian's opponent really goes for it, so you have to make sure Ian doesn't take too much punishment during that initial flurry, otherwise when Ian attacks later in the round, and pins him down, he doesn't have the strength left to force a submission, and eventually runs out of time. My first few attempts, that's what happened to me. But I eventually worked it out, and did the same as you.

For me, Ian has to prefer Jiu Jitsu, because it suits his more compact body. To be an effective kickboxer, you really need a long reach like Jeremy.

Does anyone think that this will be set up, so that Ian can meet Jeremy in the final?

 

[Zara Scarlet]

question for all, maybe been asked before though. Do you guys judge characters based on how they act in other routes? I mean obviously its unfair to judge Lena since you make her do it but, i just played my first secondary route and decided not to go with Cindy because I though Ian would probably be anti-cheating....and Wow Cindy with Axel is a terrible, vitrulent, insecure bitch to just....everyone and it turned me off wanting to do her romance route ever again if this is somehow the type of person she is. Do others do this? or is it dumb to put one timelines judgements on another?

The way I see it, just because they're a certain type of person on one route, doesn't make them the same kind of person if they make different choices. The choices you make define who you are as a person, and you need to try to see these people as completely different individuals, on the different routes.

The problem with Cindy, is that Ian has to betray one of his best friends, to be with her at all. Even if he only has sex with her, and nobody else. He's still doing a bad thing, and expecting Cindy to become a cheating slut, so they can be together. In a sense, it's him and not Axel who has opened Cindy up to corruption. So it's pretty hypocritical of him to complain, about her so far, relatively innocuous flirting with Axel, when what they've done together is infinitely worse.

If Ian and Cindy are dating, then so far nothing has really happened between Cindy and Axel, and maybe nothing ever will, as long as Ian doesn't allow his insecurity and it's resulting possessiveness, to anger Cindy and drive her into Axel's arms. I think if Ian chooses to be cool, and supports Cindy's ambition to be a model, and trusts she won't succumb to Axel's charms, there is a high probability nothing will happen.

At the end of the day, Wade did the opposite, and he lost her.

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

The way I see it, just because they're a certain type of person on one route, doesn't make them the same kind of person if they make different choices. The choices you make define who you are as a person, and you need to try to see these people as completely different individuals, on the different routes.

The problem with Cindy, is that Ian has to betray one of his best friends, to be with her at all. Even if he only has sex with her, and nobody else. He's still doing a bad thing, and expecting Cindy to become a cheating slut, so they can be together. In a sense, it's him and not Axel who has opened Cindy up to corruption. So it's pretty hypocritical of him to complain, about her so far, relatively innocuous flirting with Axel, when what they've done together is infinitely worse.

If Ian and Cindy are dating, then so far nothing has really happened between Cindy and Axel, and maybe nothing ever will, as long as Ian doesn't allow his insecurity and it's resulting possessiveness, to anger Cindy and drive her into Axel's arms. I think if Ian chooses to be cool, and supports Cindy's ambition to be a model, and trusts she won't succumb to Axel's charms, there is a high probability nothing will happen.

At the end of the day, Wade did the opposite, and he lost her.

I mean, this is in the context of a porngame, so it's all fun and the way the path played out is a win for players.

In the real world if Wade existed he'd be well within the bounds of a reasonable boyfriend to toss her after she acts so cavalier over his concerns with Axel.