VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.13.2 Full] [Eva Kiss]

[Hungover00]

It's not like anyone really dates these days. The modern version of meeting people is through dating apps whether there's conversation/sussing each other out before anyone ever meets. I'm sure some people do it the old fashioned way of meeting, asking for a number, and calling to arrange a date, but it's becoming increasingly atypical.

Besides that, the majority of men that Lena does meet/know aren't in positions to date her. Axel comes with baggage, and when they finally do sit down to meet properly, it's over coffee where he apologizes. Mike is a no-go because he's in a relationship, so he wouldn't explicitly date Lena. Jeremy at least puts up a front of not fucking around with Lena because of Ian and Louise, although he's easy to break. Even if they want to, their circumstances prevent them from dating Lena. Unless you're suggesting they just dump their girlfriends or come clean to the conflicted parties, in which case yeah, but then there's no story. Eva isn't the first writer to abuse a lack of communication to create narrative tension.

But there is one guy outside of Ian who tries to date Lena. Stan, although he's too shy to do it for most of the current story. Lena has to take the initiative to invite HIM out, and perhaps that's a commentary of the changing gender roles in modern dating. But he does ask Lena to a movie date later on. It can become sexual but it's Lena that nudges it in that direction, and that's also true of Ian. Lena is the one to invite him to her room, there's no pressure from Ian.

People who are seeing each other, however it starts, still go on dates though. Basically any activity, out and about, with the people in the relationship, can be a date. Even chore dates (shopping/errands) are a bit more than fucking someone at their work, or calling them for a hookup. Ian and Lena walk in the park at least. Go on a mini-beach vacation, hit the club together. No one else even takes her out to a movie or dinner (forgot, rich guy takes her to dinner to grill her about Nitzche), the most cliched of dates. Even Ian seeing Lena at the life drawing class is closer to a date than everyone else, iirc. (haven't played the recent Stan route) I think the point stands that all Lena's male LIs are not treating her well stands.

At least lampshade that shit by them not wanting to be caught out, while on a date.

 

[notstaged]

The fastest and funniest path to corruption for Holly so far is when Lena is on her romance path but spends the night at Ivy's (no biggie when only girls are involved, right) after the birthday party and further down the line not puts up any resistance in the showers which eventually leads to the threesome. Apparently even a whiff of Ivy' pussy is so potent it hijacks our poor little geek and transforms her in a matter of hours into a little dick addict, who wants nothing else from this life but to spend it getting high on the penis. Mind you, previously you protected Holly on every step, picked heart options every chance you get and didn't pursue anyone else (again, lesbomancy doesn't count), but faltered on the finish line, happens all the time, ever heard of Orpheus? I expected, like, maybe for Lena to voice some displeasure at this turn of events, but so far the only thing is checked whether or not she watches the gh video or not, or when she presses pause while viewing it, and it just goes from "maybe my friend went a little overboard" to "hell yeah, penises". In conclusion, to all paladins of Order of the Venom Ivy, who are threatening bodily harm on themselves in case if they don't get into her pants the next update, maybe EK was saving you all this years, denying you any story progression with the violet eyed whore, just look what it does to characters who weren't prepared for it.

 

[Hungover00]

The fastest and funniest path to corruption for Holly so far is when Lena is on her romance path but spends the night at Ivy's (no biggie when only girls are involved, right) after the birthday party and further down the line not puts up any resistance in the showers which eventually leads to the threesome. Apparently even a whiff of Ivy' pussy is so potent it hijacks our poor little geek and transforms her in a matter of hours into a little dick addict, who wants nothing else from this life but to spend it getting high on the penis. Mind you, previously you protected Holly on every step, picked heart options every chance you get and didn't pursue anyone else (again, lesbomancy doesn't count), but faltered on the finish line, happens all the time, ever heard of Orpheus? I expected, like, maybe for Lena to voice some displeasure at this turn of events, but so far the only thing is checked whether or not she watches the gh video or not, or when she presses pause while viewing it, and it just goes from "maybe my friend went a little overboard" to "hell yeah, penises". In conclusion, to all paladins of Order of the Venom Ivy, who are threatening bodily harm on themselves in case if they don't get into her pants the next update, maybe EK was saving you all this years, denying you any story progression with the violet eyed whore, just look what it does to characters who weren't prepared for it.

I'm waiting for the final of this chapter/part to see if Holly is really meant to go off like that so often, or if some of them are bugs.

Question for you though, did Ivy push Holly and Mark(?) together on this path for you?

 

[Hungover00]

The fastest and funniest path to corruption for Holly so far is when Lena is on her romance path but spends the night at Ivy's (no biggie when only girls are involved, right) after the birthday party and further down the line not puts up any resistance in the showers which eventually leads to the threesome. Apparently even a whiff of Ivy' pussy is so potent it hijacks our poor little geek and transforms her in a matter of hours into a little dick addict, who wants nothing else from this life but to spend it getting high on the penis. Mind you, previously you protected Holly on every step, picked heart options every chance you get and didn't pursue anyone else (again, lesbomancy doesn't count), but faltered on the finish line, happens all the time, ever heard of Orpheus? I expected, like, maybe for Lena to voice some displeasure at this turn of events, but so far the only thing is checked whether or not she watches the gh video or not, or when she presses pause while viewing it, and it just goes from "maybe my friend went a little overboard" to "hell yeah, penises". In conclusion, to all paladins of Order of the Venom Ivy, who are threatening bodily harm on themselves in case if they don't get into her pants the next update, maybe EK was saving you all this years, denying you any story progression with the violet eyed whore, just look what it does to characters who weren't prepared for it.

It's kinda sad too, Ivy's view of releasing Holly's sexuality is to get Holly to perform sex acts on other people. Why not turn Holly into a man eater (figuratively) that tells men and women how to please her (Holly)?

 

[Geigi]

It's kinda sad too, Ivy's view of releasing Holly's sexuality is to get Holly to perform sex acts on other people. Why not turn Holly into a man eater (figuratively) that tells men and women how to please her (Holly)?

Yeah, I don't get Ivy's motive. I remember in middle school, girls were trying to get me to smoke and use profanity and I was like why would I listen to you? I will do whatever I want to do, nobody can tell me what to do.

 

[Nifferman]

Yeah, I don't get Ivy's motive. I remember in middle school, girls were trying to get me to smoke and use profanity and I was like why would I listen to you? I will do whatever I want to do, nobody can tell me what to do.

Well not everyone is that level headed. Holly is desperate to fit in, so she is willing to go to extreme length to show her new frds that she has what it takes to be their equal, and ik a decent amount of people who will go to similar length to prove they are "cool".

 

[Xupuzulla]

It's kinda sad too, Ivy's view of releasing Holly's sexuality is to get Holly to perform sex acts on other people. Why not turn Holly into a man eater (figuratively) that tells men and women how to please her (Holly)?

Because Ivy is a horrible person who only cares about her own pleasure,the end of that scene proves it.

 

[varpep]

Now Wade is on the market Lena better not drag her feet! Sure he may be something of a slob but...I can fix him

 

[varpep]

In all these talks about Ivy corrupting Holly, people are not talking about Lena's involvement in the whole ordeal. Lena is just as well a culprit in the slootification of our beloved Innocent geek. She can stand by and watch Ivy consume Holly. She can encourage her to pursue Mark. And to top it all off, she could encourage Holly to embrace her inner slut which without doing, Ivy would not be as successful in corrupting Holly to the state she is in now.

 

[Xupuzulla]

In all these talks about Ivy corrupting Holly, people are not talking about Lena's involvement in the whole ordeal. Lena is just as well a culprit in the slootification of our beloved Innocent geek. She can stand by and watch Ivy consume Holly. She can encourage her to pursue Mark. And to top it all off, she could encourage Holly to embrace her inner slut which without doing, Ivy would not be as successful in corrupting Holly to the state she is in now.

Stop blaming other for the viper crimes,that whole drugged scene has only one culprit and her name is Ivy FUCKING Feynman

 

[LHDLLB]

It's kinda sad too, Ivy's view of releasing Holly's sexuality is to get Holly to perform sex acts on other people. Why not turn Holly into a man eater (figuratively) that tells men and women how to please her (Holly)?

The threads I follow are quite slow. I think that part of it is that corruption also plays into degradation. Is not about a shy girl being more confident and sexually reliased, is about degrading Holly, have the accomplish writer and romantic girl turned into a hole to be used.

 

[Hungover00]

The threads I follow are quite slow. I think that part of it is that corruption also plays into degradation. Is not about a shy girl being more confident and sexually reliased, is about degrading Holly, have the accomplish writer and romantic girl turned into a hole to be used.

That's the crux. Ivy is bringing Holly down to her level, not helping Holly become the unfettered and inspirational version of herself. And I'm not even sure if Ivy knows there's a difference. Ivy has cunning, but no core wisdom or values. Just passing fancies and games to play, and she prefers to use others as pieces first.

(I prefer a sexual awakening over corruption any day)

 

[AndreDA]

With how often the touchy issue of cumming inside Alison comes up during her sex scenes, I wonder if one of her endings will be getting her pregnant? Also, her getting knocked up by Jeremy and becoming a single mother if you're not dating her would be hilarious.

 

[LHDLLB]

That's the crux. Ivy is bringing Holly down to her level, not helping Holly become the unfettered and inspirational version of herself. And I'm not even sure if Ivy knows there's a difference. Ivy has cunning, but no core wisdom or values. Just passing fancies and games to play, and she prefers to use others as pieces first.

(I prefer a sexual awakening over corruption any day)

It may sound crazy but I don't think she does. I really think that in her mind she is helping Holly, it does not make her right but it does make her a more complex character. Yeah, not a big fan of corruption either, but I can indulge in it sometimes.

 

[Geigi]

(I prefer a sexual awakening over corruption any day)

With how often the touchy issue of cumming inside Alison comes up during her sex scenes, I wonder if one of her endings will be getting her pregnant? Also, her getting knocked up by Jeremy and becoming a single mother if you're not dating her would be hilarious.

I think she have a breeding kink, but I wouldn't mind her becoming pregnant either with Ian dating her or not. If Allison wants to be a single mom and have the money, she just needs the sperm.

 

[AndreDA]

This may be unpopular but I don't like all the GGGB characters showing up in ORS. Jessica was fine, more so in her bad version, because we get to see how the lifestyle ruined her. But then Nat shows up for no reason, and then... well, it's too much.

Also Gillian should have appeared earlier in the story, she should have always been present like Axel for Lena. Mostly because the character model is so attractive that it's a waste not to have a bunch of sex scenes with it.

 

[dolfe67]

I think she have a breeding kink

Is wanting a children with the guy you love a kink?

 

[AndreDA]

It's more that she's begging you to cum in her during sex, then immediately has a panic attack after you do, because she's not on the pill and hates the morning after pill. So the scenario I was envisioning was an accidental pregnancy from how irresponsible Alison and Ian get in the heat of the moment.

 

[CreativeCritic2]

Also Gillian should have appeared earlier in the story, she should have always been present like Axel for Lena. Mostly because the character model is so attractive that it's a waste not to have a bunch of sex scenes with it.

Agreed... Axel makes some sort of sense as he turns up and not only fucks like a shire-horse but also acts as a gatekeeper to the modelling profession so you can *see* why Lena would feel tempted to go back to old patterns. It's not just the sex, it's also the money and the security etc

Gillian exerts much less of a psychological pull. Ian literally starts browsing her images in between hook-ups with beautiful women and there's not very much about her so you, as a player, don't really see the strings that bind Ian to her. She's easy to move past whereas Axel is not.

I'm just not sure what purpose Gillian is serving at this point... I assume there were plans to involve her more as a kind of parallel to Axel but Eva moved away from them or couldn't find a way to make them work.

 

[Hungover00]

It's more that she's begging you to cum in her during sex, then immediately has a panic attack after you do, because she's not on the pill and hates the morning after pill. So the scenario I was envisioning was an accidental pregnancy from how irresponsible Alison and Ian get in the heat of the moment.

Horny brain often likes risk taking, and really likes baby making risks. It's the one outside purpose all living things are programmed with, make copies. Humans have managed to take a lot of that control back, to not let that rule them, but evolution created a back door for lust to hack through. I kind of hope Alison comes to terms with both sides of herself, gets an IUD (or something) and leans really hard into the breeding kink. Safe, and sexy!