VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.13.3.4] [Eva Kiss]

[Geralt From Rivia]

I want whatever drugs people are taking to make them think Eva gonna write Ian out of the story LOL!

And people take even harder drugs who hate Ian, considering him a weak MC, comparing Ian with Eric. Dudes, if your Ian is like this, then it's all the fault of the choices you made in the game - you made Ian like this.

 

[Night Hacker]

It is in the context of difference between taking advantage of feelings of an introverted girl just to sleep with her, versus casual sex with no feelings involved. I think if you can't tell this difference then you aren't really in position to comment on quality of the writing. It just makes it look like a walking case of Dunning-Kruger effect.

Additionally, even if it was a case of hypocrisy, then it's just that. Characters in the story can be hypocrites, it doesn't mean the writing is bad, just that a character has a flaw.

How did he take advantage of her? Holly knew what she wanted, HOLLY invited Ian to the book fair. HOLLY invited Ian to sleep with her. Also, may I remind you of what Lena and Ivy did with Holly? I like the story okay, but the hypocrisy is a theme that bothers me a lot.

Heck, Ian keeps apologizing and saying it was all his fault while Holly told him at least five times that she KNEW about Ian and Lena and she wanted this anyhow, and it was Lena and Ivy that helped bring her out of her shell and take a chance on getting what she wanted. Nobody was taking advantage of her.

 

[pokiehl]

I know nothing about how to generate AI images, but I think this ORS Build Your Scene Tool can help you generate new Alison scenes.

This is actually pretty cool.

 

[Night Hacker]

Yeah it is like that especially with Lena on her various paths. I've been exploring the different paths and its like, run Ian run. One path I did and she is doing the wonderful falling in love stuff and then she is all about Jeremy's cock and then treats Ian like shit and dumps him. I'm like wtf? A few days ago you were confessing how much you wanted him and just pulled some Axel type shit...

In saying that, I think some of the problem is the complexity. So many paths, relationships, and interactions, the story can become disjointed at times. This game is huge, I don't know how Eva keeps it all together at times.

Also I think Ian is the 'good' story if you will, while Lena is the 'dark' story. The girl is messed up with all this stuff going on effecting her life, and her behaviour can be understandably erratic and lead to bad decisions like Robert, Jeremy and Mike. Let's not forget Seymour, her mother and so on. In light of her own behaviour on some of these different paths, Axel and Cherry's betrayal holds less and less water to the point she seems to be delusional over the incident.

Its truly an amazing work Eva has put together, but I just wonder if the scale might be a bit too large. I hope not, its too much fun exploring the world she has created for the most part.

Yeah, it is a pretty big task creating a game like this. I honestly wish Eva would have stuck with just one character as I loved GGGB. I think two MC's in insane when you start thinking of how complex it can be.

You may have a point about Lena's erratic behavior. Good points.

 

[| Vee |]

Regarding Lena and Ian I would say one thing, EK will save massive hits on both characters till the last or at major story u-turn. Example:
IanxCindy where some major plot in story is affecting this plot(IanxCindy), than these type of things of both MC's will be revealed. Same to other types of plots will happen. None of them will survive these things(cheating on other MC(Lena/Ian) and shit). Things will be revealed at some pace so that routes can be implemented better.

If we get the feeling that one MC(Ian/Lena) is getting Fucked but other(Lena/Ian) is not, it is bcz the other MC is not at the "Consequences" stage YET. So, rest assured other(Lena/Ian) one will suffer immensely whether it is Ian or Lena.

Only thing to wait and see is how EK will implement, handle these revelations and at what pace a.k.a WHEN.

What I'm waiting for is what CHAD IAN is going to do to Lena on these routes.

 

[FugginDamaged]

Completely understandable ppl saying they wanted a single protagonist game since it takes longer to make a dual protagonist with all the paths, but it kinda defeats the purpose of what our red string is all about, how Ian and Lena have their whole live entangled together, like is literally the point of the story ppl gotta learn to be a little more patient or the games loses the meaning

 

[jackypetersy89]

Completely understandable ppl saying they wanted a single protagonist game since it takes longer to make a dual protagonist with all the paths, but it kinda defeats the purpose of what our red string is all about, how Ian and Lena have their whole live entangled together, like is literally the point of the story ppl gotta learn to be a little more patient or the games loses the meaning

Exactly. The entire premise of the game is ruined if you remove a protagonist. Half the fun is getting to see these stories play out from multiple points of view.

Hell half the fun of these comments is seeing what other people think of all the scenarios that might play out.

Wouldnt be near as much fun if it was a single protagonist IMO

 

[dolfe67]

Regarding Lena and Ian I would say one thing, EK will save massive hits on both characters till the last or at major story u-turn. Example:
IanxCindy where some major plot in story is affecting this plot(IanxCindy), than these type of things of both MC's will be revealed. Same to other types of plots will happen. None of them will survive these things(cheating on other MC(Lena/Ian) and shit). Things will be revealed at some pace so that routes can be implemented better.

If we get the feeling that one MC(Ian/Lena) is getting Fucked but other(Lena/Ian) is not, it is bcz the other MC is not at the "Consequences" stage YET. So, rest assured other(Lena/Ian) one will suffer immensely whether it is Ian or Lena.

Only thing to wait and see is how EK will implement, handle these revelations and at what pace a.k.a WHEN.

What I'm waiting for is what CHAD IAN is going to do to Lena on these routes.

Lena won't be affected much when her cheating will be known. She won't lose Ivy's friendship no matter what. If she fucked around, that means she didn't care much about Ian so losing him whatever. Other men will still want to fuck her.

Holly might be the main interest not to lose, but if she's been corrupted she might not give a fuck either.

But Ian can lose all his friends.

 

[ffive]

How did he take advantage of her? Holly knew what she wanted, HOLLY invited Ian to the book fair. HOLLY invited Ian to sleep with her.

It's pretty clear to everyone involved (Holly, Ian and Lena) that Holly was hoping for quite a bit more than just some casual hookup with Ian. In situation where Ian isn't dating Lena, after Holly and Ian have sex Holly starts to inquire about their status. In situation where Ian is dating Lena Holly states that she's suspected that and expected Ian to reject her kiss, and she gets upset (to the point of relationship score hit) if Ian has effectively led her on by giving her hope and then continuing things in the morning. It hardly makes sense for Holly to lower her opinion of Ian if they only did what Holly wanted, does it?

Also, may I remind you of what Lena and Ivy did with Holly? I like the story okay, but the hypocrisy is a theme that bothers me a lot.

Lena and Ivy can't do anything with Holly who is in relationship with Ian. Lena who is in relationship with Ian can't do anything with Holly, either. Am not sure what you're referring to, here.

 

[ffive]

Lena won't be affected much when her cheating will be known. She won't lose Ivy's friendship no matter what. If she fucked around, that means she didn't care much about Ian so losing him whatever. Other men will still want to fuck her.

Holly might be the main interest not to lose, but if she's been corrupted she might not give a fuck either.

But Ian can lose all his friends.

Lena has made a number of new friends, pretty much all of them being Ian's friends. If her cheating on him comes to light she'll lose most if not all of them, too.

As for Ian losing his friends, who knows how many girls will still want his dick, more than they care about Wade they barely interact with. Even some of the guys may choose to stick with him -- Jeremy e.g. isn't all that bothered by Ian fucking Cindy, beyond the drama that it might cause.

 

[chineselennon]

anyone knows when mac version is coming out?

 

[Xupuzulla]

Exactly. The entire premise of the game is ruined if you remove a protagonist. Half the fun is getting to see these stories play out from multiple points of view.

Hell half the fun of these comments is seeing what other people think of all the scenarios that might play out.

Wouldnt be near as much fun if it was a single protagonist IMO

If Lena was the only protagonist this thread would be mostly about old Ed not having sex scenes or something.

 

[jackypetersy89]

If Lena was the only protagonist this thread would be mostly about old Ed not having sex scenes or something.

Dont joke. Im honestly stunned i havent seen a post begging for Lena/Ed/Molly? (im hoping thats his wifes name my memory is terrible) threesome scene.

 

[Reaurt]

Dont joke. Im honestly stunned i havent seen a post begging for Lena/Ed/Molly? (im hoping thats his wifes name my memory is terrible) threesome scene.

As a grizzled vet of this thread (I remember page #1 going up! I should do something productive with my life), this threesome has come up a few times, usually as a joke. Lena/Ed has come up a lot more. The only reason you don't hear about it now is that EvaKiss said she dropped her initial plans for an Ed route to save time.

 

[matias989892]

anyone knows when mac version is coming out?

Pleaaaaseee

 

[dolfe67]

If Lena was the only protagonist this thread would be mostly about old Ed not having sex scenes or something.

If she was the only protag, there would have been more resources to make an Ed path.

 

[dontcarewhateverno]

Dont joke. Im honestly stunned i havent seen a post begging for Lena/Ed/Molly? (im hoping thats his wifes name my memory is terrible) threesome scene.

Don't get ideas in our heads. Ed/Lena/Holly triangle ftw!

 

[| Vee |]

Lena won't be affected much when her cheating will be known. She won't lose Ivy's friendship no matter what. If she fucked around, that means she didn't care much about Ian so losing him whatever. Other men will still want to fuck her.

Holly might be the main interest not to lose, but if she's been corrupted she might not give a fuck either.

But Ian can lose all his friends.

Lena has made a number of new friends, pretty much all of them being Ian's friends. If her cheating on him comes to light she'll lose most if not all of them, too.

As for Ian losing his friends, who knows how many girls will still want his dick, more than they care about Wade they barely interact with. Even some of the guys may choose to stick with him -- Jeremy e.g. isn't all that bothered by Ian fucking Cindy, beyond the drama that it might cause.

I agree but...
ffive did Ian's friend's ended their friendship with Gillian(Chameleon) when she cheated on Ian?
If not than they might not end their friendship with Lena.
I get this impression that when Gillian(Chameleon) cheated on Ian, none of Ian's friend ended their friendship with Gillian! Ian's friend may not end their friendship with Lena/Ian too while Cindy's case will be exception. I might be wrong!

 

[Blurpee69]

I agree but...
ffive did Ian's friend's ended their friendship with Gillian(Chameleon) when she cheated on Ian?
If not than they might not end their friendship with Lena.
I get this impression that when Gillian(Chameleon) cheated on Ian, none of Ian's friend ended their friendship with Gillian! Ian's friend may not end their friendship with Lena too. I might be wrong!

We don't know what happened with their relationship with Gillian, everyone has been vague about Gillian until her reappearance. We know that Gillian left the city for awhile, and most of Ian's friends have been very sympathetic to his state of mind whenever Gillian gets brought up. So it seems safe to assume that, even if they didn't outright end their friendship with Gillian, that contact was lost between them regardless.

Jeremy was the only one to know ahead of Ian that she was back, and he kept quite about it out of concern for how Ian would react; considering how he ended up reacting, it seems Jeremy made the right call.

 

[Blurpee69]

If Lena was the only protagonist this thread would be mostly about old Ed not having sex scenes or something.

That gets brought up plenty as is. Especially from newer people, but even some more veteran players will bring it up on occasion to lament the dropped storyline.