VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.13.3.4] [Eva Kiss]

[lucadiadis]

I agree this development it a bit weird, but keep in mind it starts with heartbroken Louise coming to Lena for comfort. It's not exactly great moment for Lena to tell her "No, i just started dating Ian so let me call him and bring him here so he can fuck you too". Afterwards Lena keeps this between just Louise and herself probably because she doesn't really feel like her relationship with Ian is all that solid, and it takes quite a few chapters for both Lena and Ian to come to conclusion that yes, they feel like this is a real, working relationship they're in. At which point Lena does introduce Louise to Ian.

Well, at the end of your interpretation we come back to your first sentence: it does look weird.

 

[bonerland]

In most cases I would agree: the interest of a story, in adult games just like in any other field, is that it comes from a story teller who has something to say to the outside world, and the reader/player must let himself be guided by them. However, in the particular case of EK, the very specific interest of GGGB which made it unique was that the labyrinth of choices and options was so vast that it let the players create their own story. I am not a porn game connoisseur and ORS is the only game I really play, but from the few other ones I have looked at EK seems very unique on this. And one could argue that she loses this specificity with ORS, as she deliberately closes some paths and options for the player. To me the ultimate example is the threesome Lena/Louise/Ian: you cannot have it unless Lena has cheated on Ian with Louise. I mean, how absurd is this ? Why would faithful Lena not be interested in experimenting with her serious boyfriend without cheating on him ? This is the sort of constrains EK brings to her game which make the whole thing particularly annoying.

The same thing happened in GGGB; for instance, the Thug path cut off anything to do with Instagram at a certain point. Or invite Natasha over for a threesome with Eric if you engaged in a threesome with her and her boyfriend.

 

[Zara Scarlet]

You can steer the MCs in directions, but their attitude is set. Lena hates Axel

That's not completely correct anymore. Lena's attitude to Axel is softening, if she decides to keep having sex with him. When they meet at the station, before Lena heads to the beach, it's obvious in that scene that her opinion of him has changed. So over time her attitude to Axel is most definitely not set, if you make the correct choices.

 

[Zara Scarlet]

I didn't meant non consensual as in forced, but there is no point in not telling Ian before sleeping with louise if Lena has agreed to experiment, i feel the main thing about an open relationship is open discussion and not go behind each other's backs. Lena admitting to herself that she cheated with louis just displays she feels like she betrayed Ian in someway even after they agreed to have an open relationship by not letting Ian know about louise, so looking from outside it does seem like she felt she owes Ian for cheating on him and she makes up to him by giving him a threesome with two women. I may be wrong but pragmatically speaking it does look like this doesn't it???

It's not entirely correct, that an open relationship requires partners to discuss the sex they have with other people before or even after. It depends on what kind of open relationship you have. Some people want to know in advance, some people want to at least know afterwards, and some people are quite happy if their partners don't bother to tell them at all, if they don't want to. Most people in open relationships will talk about, most of the sexual experiences they have with other people, but perhaps not all of them. This is usually what's referred to as a Free Pass. In other words, your partner allows you to do whatever you want, and that might include not telling them about some of your sexual experiences.

 

[dolfe67]

i just went on from this....
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Yeah they should rename the "Ian/Lena open relationship #445" in the walkthrough, it's not an open relationship and mislead people.

 

[Socrambus]

I didn't meant non consensual as in forced, but there is no point in not telling Ian before sleeping with louise if Lena has agreed to experiment, i feel the main thing about an open relationship is open discussion and not go behind each other's backs. Lena admitting to herself that she cheated with louis just displays she feels like she betrayed Ian in someway even after they agreed to have an open relationship by not letting Ian know about louise, so looking from outside it does seem like she felt she owes Ian for cheating on him and she makes up to him by giving him a threesome with two women. I may be wrong but pragmatically speaking it does look like this doesn't it???

I admit I don't have any personal experience with open relationship stuff (personally I don't see much difference with just being fuck buddies). IMO the "logical" thing would have been Ian and Lena open disclosing their other relationships once they both accept to enter into a more open relationship to continue experimenting together. Then you could choose as a player how each of them feel about any of the other ongoing flings and establish whatever boundaries they will agree on.

To be fair, that sounds like a nightmare regarding path writing complexity and quite a lot of extra work for Eva. So I can understand why the "open relationship" path is so greatly underdeveloped but maybe Eva should have not offered the option at all instead of delivering an almost empty one (so far).

 

[Ness99]

The next update that concludes the beach arc is focused on Lena?

 

[88stanford88]

Wow CH12 full? i missed that ... why? ...... last version played was 11 full
Okey
I was waiting this bc i play only full chapters

Now downloading .. and i will play Lena full slut path
I love her when she fucks everyone!

The next update that concludes the beach arc is focused on Lena?

I really hope so!.... bc I'm totally focused on Lena!
so I have to wait for 13 fukk... DAMN!

Number 1: Lena
Number 2: Lena
Number 3: Lena
and so on...
Number 9: Allison
Number 10: Cindy? .. not sure

 

[lucadiadis]

Wow CH12 full? i missed that ... why? ...... last version played was 11 full
Okey
I was waiting this bc i play only full chapters

Now downloading .. and i will play Lena full slut path
I love her when she fucks everyone!


I really hope so!.... bc I'm totally focused on Lena!
so I have to wait for 13 fukk... DAMN!

Number 1: Lena
Number 2: Lena
Number 3: Lena
and so on...
Number 9: Allison
Number 10: Cindy? .. not sure

(Guys, who will burst his bubble and tell him it is mainly Ian's update ?)

 

[Gicoo]

That's not completely correct anymore. Lena's attitude to Axel is softening, if she decides to keep having sex with him. When they meet at the station, before Lena heads to the beach, it's obvious in that scene that her opinion of him has changed. So over time her attitude to Axel is most definitely not set, if you make the correct choices.

Read the full post in context to the post it was responding.
Lena hates Axel in chapter 1 just like Ian is casual with Hobby. If the player decides to steer them in specific directions through choices, Ian can develop feeling toward Holly and Lena can fuck Axel. The respondent argued that you control the characters, hence Lena could theoretically desire to fuck Axel in chapter 1 and Ian should been easier to get interested into Holly. Hence my response that Ian and Lena are fixed characters in the beginning of the game who have clear dispositions and opinions of their environment.

 

[lucadiadis]

I see that in the question from Ness99 it was obvious after his/her question!
so i stopped my download.. And as I said.. this time i will wait for the 13 full

Thanks to be the one who bursted my bubble

My pleasure. Any time.

 

[Skylark21]

I see that in the question from Ness99 it was obvious after his/her question!
so i stopped my download.. And as I said.. this time i will wait for the 13 full

Thanks to be the one who bursted my bubble

Chapter 12 is not complete though, prologue and part 1 update were Ian side of things, next update which is chapter 12 part 2 will be for Lena's side, no news regarding Epilogue as of yet. So it'll be long time for ch 13 to come, maybe even next year.

 

[88stanford88]

Chapter 12 is not complete though, prologue and part 1 update were Ian side of things, next update which is chapter 12 part 2 will be for Lena's side, no news regarding Epilogue as of yet. So it'll be long time for ch 13 to come, maybe even next year.

CH12 full is on the OP and there reveals that it is just part1...
whatever i play only Lena path so i will wait with no rush the next complete version with the title they decide to put... Maybe "CH12 Lena gangbang full of cocks"???

The chapter 11 was with "PROLOGUE full" and "EPILOGUE full" in the title...

PS.. I think someone have to fix the missing PART 1 IN THE TITLE!

BC "FULL chapter 12" MEANS complete to me!
thanks for let me know this!

 

[ffive]

The next update that concludes the beach arc is focused on Lena?

Not entirely sure. It might switch to Lena's side, but there's quite a few things (discussion about Holly/Lena, rumors of Lena's cheating) and fallout of those, that'd be taken out of player's hands if it's played from Lena's perspective. Guess we'll have to wait and see.

 

[Skylark21]

Not entirely sure. It might switch to Lena's side, but there's quite a few things (discussion about Holly/Lena, rumors of Lena's cheating) and fallout of those, that'd be taken out of player's hands if it's played from Lena's perspective. Guess we'll have to wait and see.

I'm pretty sure Cheating confrontation will be most probably done in Lena's POV. I mean all Ian have to do is confront her, it'll be upto Lena on how to handle it. There might be a small pov switch in between for Ian's pov like Lena had one in current update but other thn that I don't see Ian's pov getting stretched any further, he already got enough content for chapter 12 with 2 updates.

 

[TangerineTango]

Im a bit confused as to why this is the case. So depending on the choices made, Lena and Ian can go in an open relationship but why does it close off so many routes but also leave others open? It just doesn't make any sense. If its open, they should be free to fuck anyone but why close off some and others not?

For context my Ian likes Holly, Fucked Alison, did not Fuck Cherry, Fucked/Dating Lena, Fucked Minerva, Fucked Emma and Fucked Cindy. My Lena fucked Robert, Mike, Axel, Ian, Seymour and Louise.

Now for an example, In one instance, Ian is basically saying to Jeremey that he wants to fuck Ivy and also see if he can score Jessica but then the moment Jeremy is like "hey man wanna do the threesome with alison?", Ian is like can't bro im taken. Like what? Literally just moments ago you wanted to fuck two other girls but suddenly can't? Besides this, so being in an open relationship with Lena closes off Alison, Cherry and Emma but not Cindy and Minerva? Same goes with Lena, you cut off Robert and Mike but are only left with Axel and Seymour as well as Louise?

Anyway, at this point is it honestly just better to keep them as friends with benefits with feelings or situationship?

 

[GokutheG]

Im a bit confused as to why this is the case. So depending on the choices made, Lena and Ian can go in an open relationship but why does it close off so many routes but also leave others open? It just doesn't make any sense. If its open, they should be free to fuck anyone but why close off some and others not?

For context my Ian likes Holly, Fucked Alison, did not Fuck Cherry, Fucked/Dating Lena, Fucked Minerva, Fucked Emma and Fucked Cindy. My Lena fucked Robert, Mike, Axel, Ian, Seymour and Louise.

Now for an example, In one instance, Ian is basically saying to Jeremey that he wants to fuck Ivy and also see if he can score Jessica but then the moment Jeremy is like "hey man wanna do the threesome with alison?", Ian is like can't bro im taken. Like what? Literally just moments ago you wanted to fuck two other girls but suddenly can't? Besides this, so being in an open relationship with Lena closes off Alison, Cherry and Emma but not Cindy and Minerva? Same goes with Lena, you cut off Robert and Mike but are only left with Axel and Seymour as well as Louise?

Anyway, at this point is it honestly just better to keep them as friends with benefits with feelings or situationship?

Seems that the dev is starting to have the mcs deciding to establish relationships in the upcoming chapters soon and that will result in certain routes closing others off.

I think the "open relationship" status for Lena/Ian is just for sleeping with other people together and not having them seeing other people without letting the other know. This would also tie into the setting relationships as above.

 

[quiboune]

I played again recently and finally tried out exclusive Axel's path. I wanted a path where Lena has sex with him and no one else but I'm not sure if it's possible to have love for Ian so high she'll accept dating him but low enough to not have sex with him. Anyway, I made Ian as much of an enemy with Jeremy as possible hoping he wouldn't tell him about Lena being with Axel but that didn't happen and Jeremy revealed her cheating. I think that might be because the two were caught in the toilets a little before that, but is that really it? Is it possible to have Lena cheat on Ian with Axel or Jeremy without Jeremy telling on her to Ian?

 

[ffive]

So depending on the choices made, Lena and Ian can go in an open relationship but why does it close off so many routes but also leave others open? It just doesn't make any sense. If its open, they should be free to fuck anyone but why close off some and others not?

Once again, it's not open relationship in the sense "each of us is free to fuck anyone". Lena and Ian only agree they'll "experiment together" i.e. potentially engage in threesomes with another person brought to the mix. They are starting to put this in practice in most recent chapters (threesome with Louise, Lena considering Eli as another possible participant) but anything beyond that i.e. just fucking other people behing the partner's back is still viewed by both of them as cheating.

Anyway, at this point is it honestly just better to keep them as friends with benefits with feelings or situationship?

If you want both of them to sleep around with anyone they want then yes, this is the most obvious and practical approach. I mean, why would either of them want to potentially chain themselves down to just one partner, with this attitude?

 

[GokutheG]

I played again recently and finally tried out exclusive Axel's path. I wanted a path where Lena has sex with him and no one else but I'm not sure if it's possible to have love for Ian so high she'll accept dating him but low enough to not have sex with him. Anyway, I made Ian as much of an enemy with Jeremy as possible hoping he wouldn't tell him about Lena being with Axel but that didn't happen and Jeremy revealed her cheating. I think that might be because the two were caught in the toilets a little before that, but is that really it? Is it possible to have Lena cheat on Ian with Axel or Jeremy without Jeremy telling on her to Ian?

If you want Lena to exclusively be with Axel why have her date Ian? Jeremy considers Ian his best friend and will tell him about Lena regardless.