VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.13.3.4] [Eva Kiss]

[Gicoo]

No, it's not a "double standard" because you can choose for Lena NOT TO spy on Jeremy and Louis. It's completely up to players choice if they want Lena to act that way or not.

And Stan only stalks if the player choses to have Lena act very teasing and provocative towards him, hence he starts to get the idea that its okay. Lena can even be okay with it and explore and enjoy it.

If Lena ignores Stan, he ignores her as well. In a regular not Stan specific playthrough, he stays in his room and leaves Lena and Louise alone. Louise always being on bad terms with him is on her.

It is double standard. Lena spying on her hot room mate or her boyfriend is written delicately and naughty, since you get the impression that Lena is encouraged to get Louise/Jeremy. Meanwhile, Stan being a voyeur has elements of desperation and patheticness to it, since he has no chance with her under normal circumstances and only Lena can grant him that. Very simple power dynamic of ugly nerd and hot model.

 

[bleachedturtle]

I'd rather assets to be re-used if it means faster releases

 

[jimul18]

I'd rather assets to be re-used if it means faster releases

This is the age old question of quality vs quantity. At one point the existing assets are used up and limiting anyway. There more interesting question is how can the narrative complexity production and pipeline be optimized to enable both. And is that even possible at this point?

The Jack, Jessica and Natasha cameos are indicators of an inherent dissonance between the intentions of EK and at least part of the fan response. Due to the success of GGGB. As with any artist, the works will always be compared, but playing into that...I don't know. (Personally I am all for seeing part of the old gang, and the Jessica angle is the best approach to that, though it alienates people who played the redemption arc for Jessica in GGGB, still it is interesting and apt in a narrow framework). But fansever is rarely a good thing, think of the "You'll be dead guy in Rogue One".

 

[dolfe67]

If Lena ignores Stan, he ignores her as well. In a regular not Stan specific playthrough, he stays in his room and leaves Lena and Louise alone. Louise always being on bad terms with him is on her.

You don't know that, maybe he didn't get caught red-handed

But yeah there is a double standard here between male and female. For instance, solo masturbation is also better viewed for a female than a male

 

[Xupuzulla]

Keep complaining,guys,Evakiss needs to know we are pissed about her taking this much time with a Holly update

 

[Gicoo]

You don't know that, maybe he didn't get caught red-handed

He can't fap to the pictures he took with Lena, because Lena needs to ask him to shoot her in the first place.

At best he is just fapping to Lena's instagram or stalkfap in general (what a wretched monster, how dare he).

 

[jimul18]

Keep complaining,guys,Evakiss needs to know we are pissed about her taking this much time with a Holly update

I think Holly is kind of the biggest difficulty in terms of planning, writing etc. She is the only sidecharacter thusfar, Ivy being a possible second, and since last update Emma, where there is substantial overlap between Ian and Lena. The relationship between Ian and Lena being the second big overlap between characters.

Don't get me wrong Holly is one of the best characters in terms of possible developments, trying to be like Lena, being goody good with Ian or more dirty with Ian. But it is a nightmare to untangle these variables.

 

[ffive]

So it's okay for Lena to spy on folks when they are banging because she is a woman, and hot & It's not okay for Stan to do it because he is a man, and fat?

It's ok for Lena to spy on folks because she is controlled by the player, and the player's shit never stinks.

(not to mention that, like pointed out, you can choose not to, like a civilized human being rather than a creep)

 

[JohnnyKiss]

And Stan only stalks if the player choses to have Lena act very teasing and provocative towards him, hence he starts to get the idea that its okay.

Yeah... that's what makes him the creepy incel. He thinks it's okay to do that because someone "teases him" (I'm also pretty sure that he steals their panties from the getgo, so not really a choice).

It is double standard. Lena spying on her hot room mate or her boyfriend is written delicately and naughty, since you get the impression that Lena is encouraged to get Louise/Jeremy. Meanwhile, Stan being a voyeur has elements of desperation and patheticness to it, since he has no chance with her under normal circumstances and only Lena can grant him that. Very simple power dynamic of ugly nerd and hot model.

It's not a double standard; Lena is Hot, Stan is Not. Nobody likes a creepy fatso. What do you not understand here?

 

[Maviarab]

you can choose not to, like a civilized human being

 

[Xupuzulla]

I think Holly is kind of the biggest difficulty in terms of planning, writing etc. She is the only sidecharacter thusfar, Ivy being a possible second, and since last update Emma, where there is substantial overlap between Ian and Lena. The relationship between Ian and Lena being the second big overlap between characters.

Don't get me wrong Holly is one of the best characters in terms of possible developments, trying to be like Lena, being goody good with Ian or more dirty with Ian. But it is a nightmare to untangle these variables.

So you are telling me if EK kills that geek Holly we will get quicker updates?
REALLY MAKES ONE THINK AND WONDER...

 

[SearingFive]

Wait, we are still shitting on Stan the creep?

 

[Leongen43]

You don't know that, maybe he didn't get caught red-handed

But yeah there is a double standard here between male and female. For instance, solo masturbation is also better viewed for a female than a male

That depends on the point of view of whoever is watching because if it were a heterosexual woman watching a man with a huge cock masturbating, she would get excited just like we do when watching an attractive woman masturbating, like Lena does when she looks at Jeremy's cock, right?

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[Krysis_here]

So you are telling me if EK kills that geek Holly we will get quicker updates?
REALLY MAKES ONE THINK AND WONDER...

Wooh, Wooh, What are you even saying...If Holly chapter ends Poor Marcel will be Heart Broken, IDK don't you want their Reunion and She will ride her Dragon? I will be happy see their babies, All Dancing around in Mini Marcel Style

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Wait, we are still shitting on Stan the creep?

He is Not Creep, He is Just Very Round and Peek a lot in fact don't leave Cats like Lola behind
A Good Chef that Sprinkle Hair Balls

Spoiler: Stan not Happy

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[Leongen43]

So you are telling me if EK kills that geek Holly we will get quicker updates?
REALLY MAKES ONE THINK AND WONDER...

Oh really? Incredibly, I thought that the delays were due to the number of renders of pregnant bimbo blonde Allison that EK had to do, that could also be an option, right?

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[jimul18]

Oh really? Incredibly, I thought that the delays were due to the number of renders of pregnant bimbo blonde Allison that EK had to do, that could also be an option, right?

I assume that the problem is the narrative bridge that leads Louise to hate-revenge-fuck Stan (with Lena) on the trip and orchestrating it so that Jeremy has to watch.

 

[SlowGoesSlow]

Wait, we are still shitting on Stan the creep?

This thread only has so many dialog options.

 

[SearingFive]

This thread only has so many dialog options.

True

 

[Xupuzulla]

The reality is that Holly is bringing the development down with her presence,just look how much it took EK to make art about her reading some geek dragon book.
EK should make everyone a favour and kill her off at the beach,maybe a wild shark grabs her legs or something

 

[SearingFive]

The reality is that Holly is bringing the development down with her presence,just look how much it took EK to make art about her reading some geek dragon book.
EK should make everyone a favour and kill her off at the beach,maybe a wild shark grabs her legs or something

Mommysboi and Leon would be seething if Holly is kicked out of ORS.