But most of the game that you all said making better money than ORS still doesnt had only pure vanilla story in it right? I mean they had other fetishes in the game so the player who likes that can play the game too, like the player can choose how they want to play it, and some of the successfull pure vanilla game out there had their own strength that makes their game better than other game, like the art or the story and music, so that people pays for that 3 aspects...There are plenty of people paying for Vanilla kinked games or for games with a narrower kink portfolio. Many of those games earn big money. Go look at the top 50 games on Patreon - a majority of them have either a narrow kink scope and/or a hefty vanilla component.
I'd never patreon for ORS myself. Despite the fact that the several routes I do like are masterfully done- there are simply far too many routes I don't like at all. Paying for 30% or 40% content in a 6 month to a 1 year dev cycle sounds like a big rip-off.
Not saying ORS should change its jive. It is the 64th ranked game by number of patreons. But, I think you are grasping on straws when you are trying to claim that Vanilla isn't a popular kink amongst porn game consumers or that indie games 'have' to have wide kink portfolios to be successful- The data definitely doesn't support your claims.
Oh okay, i dont know that, cuz when i read all of your post, the only conclusion that i get is that you dont likes game with too many fetishes and kinks in it, cuz the character that you had is just a lotI can tell you where you're wrong. I hate vanilla and romantic snot. This is a soap opera for 13 year old girls. That's why I don't like Alison - that's one of the reasons. Even my avatar says I don't like vanilla.
I already wrote that my Ian is a player. He likes Cherry, Emma, fucks Minerva hard, steals Cindy, stays casual with Lena.
My Lena is a typical bad girl, Ivy's best friend, she likes Mike, Jeremy and is casual with Ian. She hosts OnlyFans, does nude photo shoots, but refuses a deal with Seymour and NO return to Axel. This is too cringe.
I support different kinks, but not too bizarre. For example, no cuckolding, incest, blackmail, rape and enslavement. I'm for fun.
In GGGB Ashley in my route ended become a pornstar in first playground, in the second - open relationship with Eric
Yeah thats why i said that Eva included as many fetishes as possible so that the decision that the player can choose on how to play her game can be as many as it can, the player who wants some kind of fetishes can play the game as they want, or player who doesnt want to see some of the fetishes can avoid it in their playthrough, im not saying that Eva game doesnt had vanilla routeIt's total BS because ORS is quite playable vanilla without losing much of the content. For example, pure Ian-Lena path.
Well she has no friends at the beginning of the game and she goes into conflict, only not in the form of open confrontation like Perry, but in the form of resentment and avoidance. That is, it is generally because she is generally less socially active, not because of her character traits. And Perry is spoiled by elitists? No, of course their upbringing had some influence on him, as did the society he probably had to be in with his parents, but on the whole he is a maximally social guy and his problems are not due to his elitist upbringing at all.3. The difference between Perry and Holly. Holly is a modest, good and well-mannered intelligent girl. She is not corrupted by the evil influence of the elitist. Holly does not cause conflict, is not greedy, does not condemn friends behind their backs, is not a blabber-mouth. She's cute. Reminds me of basic Ashley. If you're a shy introvert, then Holly is a better option than Perry.
What I'm reading from this is shy girls are cute and need a hug, and shy guys are losers and should be shamed for it. Holly is modest and well-mannered because she was forced to be this way by her church-going parents. She is quiet most of the time because she believes she's going to say something stupid. The thing is, it fucked up her self-esteem, and she HATES this version of herself. She's quite eager to change when Ivy offers to become her mentor. Most of her issues are caused by the fear of judgment. So in the judgment-free environment with Lena and Ivy, it becomes easy for her to let go.The difference between Perry and Holly. Holly is a modest, good and well-mannered intelligent girl. She is not corrupted by the evil influence of the elitist. Holly does not cause conflict, is not greedy, does not condemn friends behind their backs, is not a blabber-mouth. She's cute. Reminds me of basic Ashley. If you're a shy introvert, then Holly is a better option than Perry.
Regarding Perry's social skills, even my aquarium fishes are more social.
Well, no matter how hard I try, I can't seem to like Perry. This guy is just annoying at every turn and every dialogue. But I will get over myself and someday try the way where Ian helps Perry with self-esteem and socialization. I'm just wondering how it ends.What I'm reading from this is shy girls are cute and need a hug, and shy guys are losers and should be shamed for it. Holly is modest and well-mannered because she was forced to be this way by her church-going parents. She is quiet most of the time because she believes she's going to say something stupid. The thing is, it fucked up her self-esteem, and she HATES this version of herself. She's quite eager to change when Ivy offers to become her mentor. Most of her issues are caused by the fear of judgment. So in the judgment-free environment with Lena and Ivy, it becomes easy for her to let go.
Perry's personality on the other hand is a mix of Emma (social but opinionated and impulsive) and Ivy (blabber-mouth, can't read the room). He is insecure because of his speech impairment and the fear of rejection. In order to change he has to put a lot of effort. And that effort is very hard for him because he doesn't believe the payoff will be worth it, because something will definitely go wrong and the world will once again tell him that he's a failure, so why even try... It's doable for him if Ian acts like a good friend and shows his genuine encouragement to him. If he doesn't, and only makes fun of him at every opportunity, yeah, no wonder why he doesn't change. He needs positive reinforcement. If you can't empathize with it, well, I'm happy you had it easier than people who have to fight various fears, insecurities and impostor syndrome on top of having to live up to some expectation of their idea of success that is different from person to person.
hello friend,i don't remember this scene with Emma,how do you get to it?My previous big post with the anti-rating of characters caused a controversial reaction. I decided to keep sketching on the fan and make a list of characters that I like.
10. Ven. Jiu-Jitsu trainer in the gym. If you get into a fight, then his lessons will come in handy. Ven gives the impression of an experienced and wise teacher. It reminds me of Obi-Wan Kenobi. Young Padawan Ian will not disappear under the guidance of such a teacher and will kick Axl's ass.
9 Billy. He is Jeremy's friend. So far there is not much to say about this guy, except that he is friendly and open. And apparently the same womanizer. As is Jeremy. Given Lena's troubles in the modeling business because of Seymour, Billy and his new project look like a lifeline for Lena. Or as potential for a threesome. We'll see. One question: Eva, WHY CHANGE THE COLOR OF HIS SKIN? Nothing has changed from this, except for maybe a shit storm on Twitter. WHITED.
8. Ed and Molly. A very nice elderly couple from the cafe, these are the people you want to see as your bosses at work. Yes, you won’t make much money with them, but the environment will be friendly and non-toxic. These are people with whom it is easy to establish contact and communicate. And let my Lena be a bad girl, but she never stole money from them from the general cash register. For such people there is a separate cauldron in hell. I like to take part in the development of the cafe and I hope it will be possible to save it from closing. Ed is certainly a bit of a pervert, but he is harmless and rather nostalgic for his youth when he sees a young beautiful girl.
7. Cherry. The reason for the drama and separation of Axel and Lena. Lena should thank her for helping get rid of this maniac. Unlike the tense careerist Alison, Cherry is much easier. Just sex without commitment and a little heart-to-heart communication.
6. Jeremy. Who said BBС? I already wrote about him that I think he is a cool dude and bro. Well, only if your Ian is not a soy snowflake. Jeremy, being a nerd as a child, decided to recoup to the fullest. He's a womanizer, a player, and the life of the party. You better not yawn or he'll roll up on the chick you like.
5. Mike. This guy is a real alpha. Outwardly well-built, attractive and devoid of complexes. If Lena is on the path of a bad girl, he is a good option. Not trying to control, not a psychopath. Everything is easy to take. Mike is very confident. He won't chase after Lena like Robert or terrorize her like Axel if she doesn't want to continue her relationship with him. If it happened, it should be so - I think this is Mike's philosophy. It is very interesting to know who his girlfriend is. Maybe Gillian?
4. Ivy. Hot girl from the club. Hell, for this girl there are no restrictions, she does not care about the condemnation of society and what they think of her. In Our Red String, Evie is in the role of Jessica from GGGB - urges Lena to become more depraved. But this character, unlike Jessica, is not a marginal drug addict and garbage whore who will suck dick for a dose in the alley. Ivy knows her worth and respects herself. She is a successful model and go-go dancer in a club. Ivy doesn't mind free sex, but she doesn't like it when Jeremy makes a fool out of her. Evie is easy and fun to hang out with, she's the kind of friend you find adventurous on your ass with. She lacks arrogance - Holly is out of her league and she plays a little joke on her. But then he accepts into the company and helps to get out of the shell of shyness.
3. Holly. Sweet and shy girl. Who grew up under the influence of conservative religious parents. I understand Holly is here as basic Ashley. She is very educated, intelligent, non-confrontational and terribly shy. What you want to see Holly is up to you - a good girl in a relationship with a good Ian, but more open and courageous. Or the potential path of corruption as a result of befriending Ivy.
She also looks cool and beautiful without those stupid glasses:
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2. Cindy. The Forbidden fruit. I know that according to the results of polls on Eva's Patreon, she is the most popular girl. Cindy is stubborn, demanding, knows her own worth and wants more from life, she believes that she deserves the best. She considers herself still very young and does not want to live her life in vain. Cindy is a social extrovert, very energetic and loves to be the center of attention. You can say that she has the character of a queen and ... the guy must match her and be in her league. Therefore, only the second place. It can't be easy with Cindy - being her boyfriend is hard work, she loves it when everything is her way. I guess she's a Leo by her zodiac sign. Therefore, her relationship falls apart - she meets a guy who goes to the bottom and Cindy is no longer comfortable with him. And I really think that Cindy deserves better - she strives for it, while her boyfriend prefers to masturbate to online games and watch football on TV.
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1. Emma. Surprise, didn't you expect? I love everything about this girl. She is open, outgoing and friendly. There is nothing elitist, arrogant in it, not a single moment of condemning people for anything. Emma always easily finds friends and behaves as relaxed as possible. Emma is the most tolerant. She is not indifferent to the problems of people and the city in which she lives, she is aware of the political situation - Emma is a social activist. But she doesn't look like one of those Twitter activists. She cares about real issues. That moment when she ruined Seymour Ward's expensive suit and kicked him out of the cafe - I realized: "Thats my girl." It was so bad ass and cool! And it turned out to be a huge surprise what this girl is an easy in sex. I never thought she was such a nymphomaniac. I am absolutely certain that Ian and Jeremy are not her only current partners - Emma has no brakes. I think the path of the Eskimo brothers promises to be very interesting for the most depraved scenes in the future. I'm sorry Perry, but you're not getting a piece of Emma.
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So this seems to be all ... If you have the strength to read this scribble to the end, keep another cute character from the game. DLC, so to speak:
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Cat team, welcome. Funny coincidence, I had the same black cat in the past. Even the eye color is identical.
This is episode 8. Scene opens after Ian's drug hallucinations as he wakes up. You have to be in Emma's route.hello friend,i don't remember this scene with Emma,how do you get to it?
thank you for responding my friend,nice post btwThis is episode 8. Scene opens after Ian's drug hallucinations as he wakes up. You have to be in Emma's route.
Have to admit that I don't quite see Wen as all that interesting yet. Sure, he teaches an art to Ian, but I think he could be more interesting if he became more involved in his private life too. Ian could use more "independent" friends anyway.10. Ven. Jiu-Jitsu trainer in the gym. If you get into a fight, then his lessons will come in handy. Ven gives the impression of an experienced and wise teacher. It reminds me of Obi-Wan Kenobi. Young Padawan Ian will not disappear under the guidance of such a teacher and will kick Axl's ass.
Billy is so new that his skin colour is of relatively little concern to me. I still don't find his offer enticing yet, need to know more specifics and see what kind of person he really is.9 Billy. He is Jeremy's friend. So far there is not much to say about this guy, except that he is friendly and open. And apparently the same womanizer. As is Jeremy. Given Lena's troubles in the modeling business because of Seymour, Billy and his new project look like a lifeline for Lena. Or as potential for a threesome. We'll see. One question: Eva, WHY CHANGE THE COLOR OF HIS SKIN? Nothing has changed from this, except for maybe a shit storm on Twitter. WHITED.
I hope the cafe can end up in certain ways depending on what event you choose to take place there. I wouldn't expect wildly different outcomes or anything, but it'd be kinda fun if you could draw different crowds depening on Lena's choice.8. Ed and Molly. A very nice elderly couple from the cafe, these are the people you want to see as your bosses at work. Yes, you won’t make much money with them, but the environment will be friendly and non-toxic. These are people with whom it is easy to establish contact and communicate. And let my Lena be a bad girl, but she never stole money from them from the general cash register. For such people there is a separate cauldron in hell. I like to take part in the development of the cafe and I hope it will be possible to save it from closing. Ed is certainly a bit of a pervert, but he is harmless and rather nostalgic for his youth when he sees a young beautiful girl.
So she's the cause of the biggest dramatic background in the game but also nicely undramatic?7. Cherry. The reason for the drama and separation of Axel and Lena. Lena should thank her for helping get rid of this maniac. Unlike the tense careerist Alison, Cherry is much easier. Just sex without commitment and a little heart-to-heart communication.
I think very lowly of Jeremy. His ideals crack under tension and he has no game, he only gets some when the women throw themselves at him. Louise and Alison if Ian and Lena don't influence it otherwise and Lena only if you choose to. I don't find him that convincing as a player or a bro. If he actually pulled through with his professed ideals when tested I'd find him a much more interesting option and friend. Physically he is fine, hit even, but his behaviour taints him to me.6. Jeremy. Who said BBС? I already wrote about him that I think he is a cool dude and bro. Well, only if your Ian is not a soy snowflake. Jeremy, being a nerd as a child, decided to recoup to the fullest. He's a womanizer, a player, and the life of the party. You better not yawn or he'll roll up on the chick you like.
Mike still cheats on his girlfriend. Besides his physique I haven't had a lot of interest in him. Being Gillian's boyfriend would certainly make him a more interesting in terms of the story I suppose, but he feels like such a side-character at this point already that I am unsure Eva could do much to really make him interesting.5. Mike. This guy is a real alpha. Outwardly well-built, attractive and devoid of complexes. If Lena is on the path of a bad girl, he is a good option. Not trying to control, not a psychopath. Everything is easy to take. Mike is very confident. He won't chase after Lena like Robert or terrorize her like Axel if she doesn't want to continue her relationship with him. If it happened, it should be so - I think this is Mike's philosophy. It is very interesting to know who his girlfriend is. Maybe Gillian?
On the contrary I think Ivy cares a lot about the condemnation of society, the whole point of her character is to prove that her lifestyle is a legit one and one that shouldn't mean that she's less of a person. I'm not sure she truly does respect herself, at least not fully yet. Maybe she does, but I get the sense that her whole schtick, why she professes her ideals and impresses them upon Lena and Holly so, is that them emulating her would be a legitimising event. I at least hope that we will get to see some kind of consequence or hesitation from her at some point, it'd be fun for Ian or Lena to approve and reaffirm her commitment to the way she lives.4. Ivy. Hot girl from the club. Hell, for this girl there are no restrictions, she does not care about the condemnation of society and what they think of her. In Our Red String, Evie is in the role of Jessica from GGGB - urges Lena to become more depraved. But this character, unlike Jessica, is not a marginal drug addict and garbage whore who will suck dick for a dose in the alley. Ivy knows her worth and respects herself. She is a successful model and go-go dancer in a club. Ivy doesn't mind free sex, but she doesn't like it when Jeremy makes a fool out of her. Evie is easy and fun to hang out with, she's the kind of friend you find adventurous on your ass with. She lacks arrogance - Holly is out of her league and she plays a little joke on her. But then he accepts into the company and helps to get out of the shell of shyness.
I like Holly with glasses, I'd just love to get to help her pick out a less cumbersome pair3. Holly. Sweet and shy girl. Who grew up under the influence of conservative religious parents. I understand Holly is here as basic Ashley. She is very educated, intelligent, non-confrontational and terribly shy. What you want to see Holly is up to you - a good girl in a relationship with a good Ian, but more open and courageous. Or the potential path of corruption as a result of befriending Ivy.
She also looks cool and beautiful without those stupid glasses:
Without judging if they deserve "better" I'll at least say that I think Wade and Cindy will just be happier apart and with other people. No idea who that'd be for Wade, someone who shares his interests or at least his preferred lifestyle probably, I don't necessarily see Cindy as completely high-maintenance, I think she could be very happy with someone who's just adventerous and fun. She's stuck in a static situation and wants some dynamism in her life.2. Cindy. The Forbidden fruit. I know that according to the results of polls on Eva's Patreon, she is the most popular girl. Cindy is stubborn, demanding, knows her own worth and wants more from life, she believes that she deserves the best. She considers herself still very young and does not want to live her life in vain. Cindy is a social extrovert, very energetic and loves to be the center of attention. You can say that she has the character of a queen and ... the guy must match her and be in her league. Therefore, only the second place. It can't be easy with Cindy - being her boyfriend is hard work, she loves it when everything is her way. I guess she's a Leo by her zodiac sign. Therefore, her relationship falls apart - she meets a guy who goes to the bottom and Cindy is no longer comfortable with him. And I really think that Cindy deserves better - she strives for it, while her boyfriend prefers to masturbate to online games and watch football on TV.
I like Emma. I just hope for a route with her for Lena too. I think it could be a fun way to really mix and match Ian and Lena's stories if they can both get with her in one way or another.1. Emma. Surprise, didn't you expect? I love everything about this girl. She is open, outgoing and friendly. There is nothing elitist, arrogant in it, not a single moment of condemning people for anything. Emma always easily finds friends and behaves as relaxed as possible. Emma is the most tolerant. She is not indifferent to the problems of people and the city in which she lives, she is aware of the political situation - Emma is a social activist. But she doesn't look like one of those Twitter activists. She cares about real issues. That moment when she ruined Seymour Ward's expensive suit and kicked him out of the cafe - I realized: "Thats my girl." It was so bad ass and cool! And it turned out to be a huge surprise what this girl is an easy in sex. I never thought she was such a nymphomaniac. I am absolutely certain that Ian and Jeremy are not her only current partners - Emma has no brakes. I think the path of the Eskimo brothers promises to be very interesting for the most depraved scenes in the future. I'm sorry Perry, but you're not getting a piece of Emma.![]()
Exactly, that's why my headcanon Ian is always here for his buddies Perry and Wade. He grew up with these people and he knows them like no one else, which means it's up to him to help them and get their drive back.Perry's personality on the other hand is a mix of Emma (social but opinionated and impulsive) and Ivy (blabber-mouth, can't read the room). He is insecure because of his speech impairment and the fear of rejection. In order to change he has to put a lot of effort. And that effort is very hard for him because he doesn't believe the payoff will be worth it, because something will definitely go wrong and the world will once again tell him that he's a failure, so why even try... It's doable for him if Ian acts like a good friend and shows his genuine encouragement to him. If he doesn't, and only makes fun of him at every opportunity, yeah, no wonder why he doesn't change. He needs positive reinforcement. If you can't empathize with it, well, I'm happy you had it easier than people who have to fight various fears, insecurities and impostor syndrome on top of having to live up to some expectation of their idea of success that is different from person to person.
How can he help them if he is a bigger cuck then them?Exactly, that's why my headcanon Ian is always here for his buddies Perry and Wade. He grew up with these people and he knows them like no one else, which means it's up to him to help them and get their drive back.
Well, that's your fetish, so you shaped that kind of Ian by your choices. My Ian is more Axel-like minus the bullshit and playing.How can he help them if he is a bigger cuck then them?![]()
I had one philosophy class during my first semester and even I raised my eyebrow on this statementhilarious piece of bullshit straight from rashist ZombieTV or VK depths
any 2 year student studying history or philosophy would laugh at you
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I'm so glad this is about a game and not history and politics eh?hilarious piece of bullshit straight from rashist ZombieTV or VK depths
any 2 year student studying history or philosophy would laugh at you
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Only update you need is that the Chapter isn't coming out before October.any update on .10?