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SoulsSurvivor
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Dev shouldn't write fights into the story when they don't understand martial arts.
varpep
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Does anyone really think Stan and Lena could actually work? Some people are just destined to be friends. And nothing wrong with that. Stan and Holly though, that could work.But unlike Stan he can actually get to fuck Lena.
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What do you mean? Personally I loved the part where Ian transformed into Super Ian 2 and beat the one guy while his friend Jermiccolo cheered him on. My favorite part of the game so far.
I wanna know too, I don't know anything about martial arts so it'll be cool to know the perspective of somebody who knows their stuff about what the dev got wrong in the kickboxing/jiu-jitsu segments.
Stan fans, which are apparently aplenty on Patreon.
"But i'm a nice guy so i deserve a hot woman to fall for me" is one hell of a drug.
The problem with dating a really hot woman, is that everyone else thinks so as well. If you're in any way possessive, as Stan definitely is, it's gonna be a rollercoaster of emotions. To successfully date a woman like Lena, requires either supreme confidence or a very easygoing personality. Stan has neither of those.
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I'm not a practitioner or an expert. But I do watch combat sports from time to time and the writing seemed okay to me. Hence the question?
No lightning in the aura. That's clearly Super Ian 1. I think he will go Super Ian 2 in the final round of the Wen Games
Sure but the shippers aren't thinking like that. They're expecting "and they lived happily ever after because Stan obviously treated Lena right and she has loved him deeply for it, never as much as looking at any other guy."
And since it's a computer game where the player actually gets control over actions of the hot woman, they can make that fantasy come true, by having her reject all other guys.
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This. Stan's fans are self inserting. What you can't experience in life, you live through books, movies and games, which is a bitter and sad reality for some.
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Even Ian, as he begins, is not the typical guy you would associate with a girl like Lena. But unlike Stan, he already has the potential to bridge the gap between them, because he's working out at the gym (which is building his body confidence), socialising with his friends (some of whom are pretty outgoing and push Ian to go further on the social scene) and his determination to succeed as a writer, gives him a belief in himself, that Stan just totally lacks.
Stan could do all those things himself. He could lose weight and work out in the gym, to get a better body. He could buy more fashionable clothes, work on developing his social skills and building his confidence in general. But until Lena, pushes hard for him to do that, he just sits behind his computer screen, saying 'poor me' and how the world never gives him a fair shot. If you make the effort, there's usually someone out there for you. But if you don't, then most of the time unsurprisingly, there's nobody.
But it also requires you to have realistic expectations of who you could end up with. Because he spends most of his life in front of a computer screen, Stan fantasises that he could get the hot girl, and because she's not horrible to him, begins to believe that maybe she wants him too. Poor social skills, mean you often misinterpret people being nice to you, as evidence they like you in other ways. And occasionally maybe they do. But most of the time, they're just being nice to you. But you don't see that, because you're desperate for them to fancy you, as much as you 'think' you fancy them. And because you devote so much attention to pursuing a girl who'll never want you that way, you miss the one who would, if only you were paying attention elsewhere.
Holly is the obvious girlfriend for Stan. If he put as much effort into pursuing her, as he wastes in a forlorn effort to land Lena, he'd end up with a cute girlfriend, who just happens to have a hot future as a writer. Both of them are nerds, so they have tons in common. And unlike Lena, he'll never have to worry about what she might be getting up to, on those nude modelling shoots?
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SoulsSurvivor
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How characters react to grapples, the two characters who are supposed to be knowledgeable about martial arts say "that shits gay bro" one even says he doesn't believe in jujitsu. Be one thing if it was only and he wasn't meant be someone with YEARS of experience. If you use a grapple in a street fight, which is the second most logical option next to running, you get mocked. It's very pointed and likely written by someone who is ignorant to why grapples are actually feared for how effective they are, or by someone who got their ass handed to them a couple times because someone got grappled and pinned.
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Eva is not ignorant for making a joke about jiujitsu, fucking south park has a whole chapter making fun of wrestling being gay. I thought you would complain about more technical stuff not that little thing that doesn't affect anything.
What two characters? Wen and Yuri are the two experts. Ian only recently started, and is therefor pretty ignorant of technique, Jeremy is really more of a meathead than an actual fighter, and Robert is well... Robert. In the actual fight Ian has with the other fighter, it is made very clear that he is trying to avoid the submission maneuver at all costs. It isn't until Ian wears him all the way down that he can finally get him into a solid submission. Even then, in some cases Ian is forced to use a Will Point to end the fight via submission.
Wen and Yuri both have a healthy respect for martial arts as a whole, they just have their specialty, which all fighters do. Even MMA fighters.
I think you are confusing views of the game's author with views of one characters in the game, Jeremy, who is intentionally written by the author as someone who is trying to pose as "tough macho motherfucker". Every fighter* other than Jeremy (including the actual trainers) well recognize the advantages provided by grappling. It's the main reason why one of them recommends Ian to focus on these techniques, in fact.
*) i don't include Roberts in the fighters, obv. He's just a random aggressive drunk.
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I'm honestly waiting for the moment it's Ian vs Jeremy, and I will go to all means on kicking our scumbag douche of a so call 'friend's ass accordingly. Thankfully the investment into grappling will have paid dividends and kick started a possible (though unlikely ever going to happen in the near future) romance arc with Ivy.
What I would like to happen: Ian and Ivy hit it off, have a genuine connection, and things escalate from there, Ivy dealing with the turmoil of having feeling for someone in a long time, and Ian exploring her wild side with her, but with romance.
What is probably going to happen: Ivy fucks Ian for self-interested reasons, like proving to Lena he's no good or something, or some dumb cuck stuff where Ian will watch/hear about how she fucks other guys.