VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.13.3.4] [Eva Kiss]

[JohnnyKiss]

before the treesome? how??

During the threesome. Ian and Allison can be dating and invite Jeremy for a 3some, then Ian underperforms leaving Jeremy to fuck Allison and creampie her.

 

[mommysboiii]

I have to say I find it a bit funny that ORS which is a rather vanilla game kinkwise, has such a massive fanbase of wannabe cucks or better wanna be cheated ons, since what they want to see has less to do with cucking, which is something done by both partners together, and more with cheating and being treated like a doormat.
Nearly every page of the thread contains posts which want to know how to best treat Ian like a doormat or how the girls can cheat on him as soon as possible. What the hell is going on here? There are games on F95 with special NTR modes and even these games have a less high percentage of self-flaggelants!

I mean we are only halfway through and GGGB was a very kinky game and these things are highly
implied in the writting axel cindy photoshoot text??? holly corruption text??? holly bouncer text?? gillian writting if you dont throw the pics away???jeremy sending pics?? alison threesome ian compare his seize to jeremy??? the underperformance?? jeremy cums inside alison??the lena deniel route?? there are alot of text that implie insecurity or some kind of downfall for a specific girl so it dosent come out of the blue.If it will happens in the future we will see but at least it is implied

 

[BloodyMares]

but than again we already know that there will be scenes between cindy/axel , holly corruption scenes,........ this scenes will be drawn anyway from eva thats my point that she would not need to draw new scens for that because this kinky corruption scenes will already exist in the future anyway(at least on ian/lena single routes)

so it should not be that hard to have some viable in earlygame or something that effect writting and if you wanna see this scenes in a realtionship with corruption if you play lena ian a certain way.

My take: Ian can become the cuck with Lena because they reached a stage where they could fully commit to each other. None of the other girls in Ian's life have reached the same status yet. Even with Holly, she clearly expressed that she doesn't want to pressure him into anything and is happy to go one step at a time. It's hard to be a cuck in a casual relationship because there are no obligations on anybody aside from maybe difference in expectations. Alison, despite being the first hookup Ian could have, is still beating around the bush and isn't ready to ask Ian about a serious relationship (I'm guessing she wants to explore her fantasies first).

As soon as another girl will be ready for a serious relationship (official relationship status), I don't doubt there will be various challenges introduced that might shaken up the dynamic in one way or another. Not every girl needs to have a cuck path with Ian, some girls are just not into being shared and equate it to lack of love / respect.

 

[fatpussy123]

gillian writting if you dont throw the pics away???

Wait does Gillian write to Ian if he doesn't delete the pics? Did I miss something?

 

[BloodyMares]

But tell me, what DO you think the end-goal with Ian jerking off to Jeremy fucking his crush is going to be? It's very similar to the actual thing that Ian does on a "cuck route" with Lena's stalksap and saying it turns him on that people are jerking off to his gf?

It might unlock the cuck path with Alison in the future and have nothing to do with Lena. Or it might not affect anything and Ian who didn't get laid with Alison will just be able to live out his sexual fantasies vicariously through Jeremy. After all, he could end up being single and not date anybody. Just like Stan can jerk off to Lena's pics and not have any sexual relationship with her. Or Perry who has an attraction to Cherry and claims that he doesn't want to fuck her but is happy scrolling through her censored nudes and would probably jerk off listening to Ian doing her on the other side of the wall.

 

[mommysboiii]

I think it's more of the case there's mommysboiii who champions the cuck cause with wild abandon, and a lot of people who absolutely can't stand this idea and express their disapproval for it energetically. /s

no i think there are alot of people that only play there route not everything and never encounter this writting and think this writting dosent exist because they dont play this route or they dont like it and dont want that this writting exist because they are scared it takes away from their vanilla route (which still dosent change the fact that this game is in the first place a corruption game like GGGD which alot of people still denie and think it is some standart vanilla/fuckfest romance novel)

 

[JohnnyKiss]

Just like Stan can jerk off to Lena's pics and not have any sexual relationship with her. Or Perry who has an attraction to Cherry and claims that he doesn't want to fuck her but is happy scrolling through her censored nudes and would probably jerk off listening to Ian doing her on the other side of the wall.

Huh? What does this have to do with Ian? Why are we derailing the conversation?

Anyway, this is clearly going to have some payoff so it's up to you to you if you are willing to accept that or not. I honestly don't see how this doesn't feed into Ian's "cuck tendency" considering it's such a cliche but alright.

 

[Homemade]

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Doppelgang, Geralt From Rivia, lipe2410, Marley300, SerHawkes, IkarusWestwood, Gato21, LoneVoyage, gisgus (was A masterful writer now deleted his account) lockerxx, fortuna95, Back, dontcarewhateverno, Sherka, JoJoPool.


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[mommysboiii]

Wait does Gillian write to Ian if he doesn't delete the pics? Did I miss something?

no the writting from eva if he dosent throw the pics away that implie that he is not over gillian and still has feelings for her after being cheated on

 

[| Vee |]

Wait does Gillian write to Ian if he doesn't delete the pics? Did I miss something?

She already at this?

 

[Turret]

I mean we are only halfway through and GGGB was a very kinky game and these things are highly
implied in the writting axel cindy photoshoot text???(...)

GGGB was in specific parts a kinky game, but ORS at the moment is anything but a kinky game. Throw a look at "Pale Carnations", "Starless" or "Tomie wanna get married" if you want kinky stuff.
As for the ORS thread, no offence meant, but the overwhemling vibe here is, by just reading pages upon pages about a major part of the fanbase wants nothing more than to learn how you can turn most of the game cast into pathetic losers and cocksuckers at the earliest possibility.
To be blunt, this is not something which induces anyone not liking to see and read about how the MC becomes a doormat to continue playing ORS!

 

[mommysboiii]

Huh? What does this have to do with Ian? Why are we derailing the conversation?

Anyway, this is clearly going to have some payoff so it's up to you to you if you are willing to accept that or not. I honestly don't see how this doesn't feed into Ian's "cuck tendency" considering it's such a cliche but alright.

GGGB was in specific parts a kinky game, but ORS at the moment is anything but a kinky game. Throw a look at "Pale Carnations", "Starless" or "Tomie wanna get married" if you want kinky stuff.
As for the ORS thread, no offence meant, but the overwhemling vibe here is, by just reading pages upon pages about a major part of the fanbase wants nothing more than to learn how you can turn most of the game cast into pathetic losers and cocksuckers at the earliest possibility.
To be blunt, this is not something which induces anyone not liking to see and read about how the MC becomes a doormat to continue playing ORS!

your argument for people (should not be alowed) to speak because you or other players feel offended or are more of a fuckfest/chad Ian player that dosent like to read about other routes he dosent play like alsion threesome can also be made on the opposite side there are also player that dont play ian as a sex addict,vanilla boi or chad so I dont see the point to be honest.

aye maybe I am wrong and this game is not a corruption game at all maybe the writting is on accident by eva and she dosent realize it
or maybe this game is a harem/vanilla/fuckfest game in the future nobody knows what evas indentions are or what her vision is for this game and maybe I am wrong and eva dosnet like to write or to make kinky corruption games but my infromation is based that this game is more slowburn and has a way slower start than GGGB but again I could be wrong and this is NOT A CORRUPTION GAME at all.

 

[Gicoo]

GGGB was in specific parts a kinky game, but ORS at the moment is anything but a kinky game. Throw a look at "Pale Carnations", "Starless" or "Tomie wanna get married" if you want kinky stuff.
As for the ORS thread, no offence meant, but the overwhemling vibe here is, by just reading pages upon pages about a major part of the fanbase wants nothing more than to learn how you can turn most of the game cast into pathetic losers and cocksuckers at the earliest possibility.
To be blunt, this is not something which induces anyone not liking to see and read about how the MC becomes a doormat to continue playing ORS!

I have to say I find it a bit funny that ORS which is a rather vanilla game kinkwise, has such a massive fanbase of wannabe cucks or better wanna be cheated ons, since what they want to see has less to do with cucking, which is something done by both partners together, and more with cheating and being treated like a doormat.
Nearly every page of the thread contains posts which want to know how to best treat Ian like a doormat or how the girls can cheat on him as soon as possible. What the hell is going on here? There are games on F95 with special NTR modes and even these games have a less high percentage of self-flaggelants!

I don't get being worried about fans of cucking and cheating. Sorry guys, but you play the wrong game.

While there are wholesome and vanilla options like in GGGB, its clear that corruption and cheating is the main sauce of the game. It won't end in a happy harem dream, even Chad Ian fucking 6 girls within weeks will have to compromise and break-ups and fights are unavoidable. Every girl leans toward corruption. If anything, a stable relationship is the exception, rather the reverse.

Lena: Aside from Ian (who can also range from kind partner to asshole) and Holly, all her love interests are sketchy as hell.
Cindy: Ian > Axel > Wade as far as interest and effort in writing, scenes and GCs will end up.
Alison: Romancing her regurlarly is quite boring, its all about sharing her with Jeremy for different outcomes.
Holly: Kind girl, but there are several choices to corrupt her either moderatly through Lena or quite hard with Ivy.
Cherry: Is currently wholesome with Ian and Perry, but the relapse for Axel has already happened and the drama with Lena is going to escalate sooner or later.
Emma: Despite her being a kind girl, her scenes are all about being ranchy and sexual.
Louise: All her content is about her cheating boyfriend and her potential drama with Lena as her dom or rival. If she gets ignored, she likely just moves out and disappears without any further scenes.
Minerva: The no-affair path has zero content and leads to nowhere.


Expecting vanilla content and being surprised about corruption content is naive and hopeless.

 

[BloodyMares]

Huh? What does this have to do with Ian? Why are we derailing the conversation?

Have you skipped the sentence that was before the one you chose quote? I specifically said that a "cuck tendency" can't really be explored if Ian is single in a given playthrough. Porn from Jeremy can't mean anything if he doesn't date anyone seriously. And I'm saying that it's very unlikely that Ian masturbating to Alison's pics or underperforming in a threesome will be used outside of his interactions with Alison. I know how Eva writes, she doesn't like referencing what happened with other people when interacting with a different LI. Ian doesn't get more nervous with Alison if he came from Lena's handjob or was denied sex, him not being able to get it up with Alison has zero consequences on his sexual prowess with Emma or Cindy, etc. Eva doesn't have a computer in her head with all possible paths imaginable accessible at any given time. When writing any scene, she usually thinks about what happened with that person in the path, not with anyone else. For example, when writing scenes for Holly, Eva never makes Lena think about Robert, Mike, Louise or Jeremy but references to Ian are almost always there. You could say that characters compartmentalize what they experience with other characters when interacting with a different one. It's reminiscent of GGGB where almost every scene / path happened in a bubble and barely affected other characters unless they were directly involved.

 

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I wanted to mention some awesome ''ORS'' thread users whose posts I enjoy reading.


Doppelgang, Geralt From Rivia, lipe2410, Marley300, SerHawkes, IkarusWestwood, Gato21, LoneVoyage, gisgus (was A masterful writer now deleted his account) lockerxx, fortuna95, Back, dontcarewhateverno, Sherka, JoJoPool.


Zedire A Writer himself, was interested in M x M content in ''ORS'' like Ian x Axel, prefers to play with Ian's perspective. BlandChili, long lost twin sister of Zedire. Interested in F X F content mostly, will not play an Avn with a Male lead. Arisushi, A Talented writer had worked on Such AVN's The Best Days of Our Lives, (Abandoned) ''ONS'' One Night Stand.

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[fatpussy123]

I don't get being worried about fans of cucking and cheating. Sorry guys, but you play the wrong game.

While there are wholesome and vanilla options like in GGGB, its clear that corruption and cheating is the main sauce of the game. It won't end in a happy harem dream, even Chad Ian fucking 6 girls within weeks will have to compromise and break-ups and fights are unavoidable. Every girl leans toward corruption. If anything, a stable relationship is the exception, rather the reverse.

Lena: Aside from Ian (who can also range from kind partner to asshole) and Holly, all her love interests are sketchy as hell.
Cindy: Ian > Axel > Wade as far as interest and effort in writing, scenes and GCs will end up.
Alison: Romancing her regurlarly is quite boring, its all about sharing her with Jeremy for different outcomes.
Holly: Kind girl, but there are several choices to corrupt her either moderatly through Lena or quite hard with Ivy.
Cherry: Is currently wholesome with Ian and Perry, but the relapse for Axel has already happened and the drama with Lena is going to escalate sooner or later.
Emma: Despite her being a kind girl, her scenes are all about being ranchy and sexual.
Louise: All her content is about her cheating boyfriend and her potential drama with Lena as her dom or rival. If she gets ignored, she likely just moves out and disappears without any further scenes.
Minerva: The no-affair path has zero content and leads to nowhere.


Expecting vanilla content and being surprised about corruption content is naive and hopeless.

It's fine to expect vanilla content from ORS. Despite all the instances of corruption and kinkiness you cited, there is a lot of vanilla/romance content.

Holly on Ians path at multiple times resist the more extreme moments of corruption from Lena and Ivy. She has arguably the two best romance routes with both Ian or Lena.

Ian and Lena can have a vanilla relationship or Ian can dom Lena in said relationship. Sure there are also cuck, cheating, and femdom routes in that relationship, but those are all optional and vanilla players can very easily avoid them.

Alison can also have a loving relationship with Ian. You can't really seal the deal just yet, but it's obvious that romance is blossoming with the two of them. In this route the kinkiest thing that happens is all the creampies Alison keeps receiving.

And if players don't want corruption or romance, there is also Emma with her friends with benefits route. Only if the player wills it does she sleep with Jeremy, even though she is under no obligation to stay faithful to Ian.

Point isn't that ORS is a vanilla cookie cutter game, but that Eva outdid her self with all the variety and that people on here who would try to narrow down the content into calling the game exclusively vanilla or exclusively corruption are doing the game a disservice. Personally pretty much all of the lesbian content in the game doesn't appeal to me, but I'd rather it be in the game than not because I know that there are people who exclusively play ORS for that content. I can sympathize with those who really want more of a specific form of content, for example those on here that want more Ivy + Ian content. But I would never want the rest of the content to be cut in place of it, just that it should be added on to the large collection of existing routes

 

[Turret]

your argument for people (should not be alowed) to speak because you or other players feel offended or are more of a fuckfest/chad Ian player that dosent like to read about other routes he dosent play like alsion threesome can also be made on the opposite side there are also player that dont play ian as a sex addict,vanilla boi or chad so I dont see the point to be honest.

That is NOT my argument at all, just what you believe it to be!
It is an OBSERVATION of mine that for several 100 pages the major theme overshadowing any other is the yapping for more ways to turn a major part of the cast into doormats or how to get them to the point of suicide! If I wanted to see such a show, I could play "Atonia Blues" or stuff like that, which are made explicitly for the fans of such content, hard NTR, despair and playing up tropes.
ORS on the other hand should keep having paths not all leading into one direction, which is what is demanded by not a few of the fanbase here.

I don't get being worried about fans of cucking and cheating. Sorry guys, but you play the wrong game.
While there are wholesome and vanilla options like in GGGB, its clear that corruption and cheating is the main sauce of the game. It won't end in a happy harem dream, even Chad Ian fucking 6 girls within weeks will have to compromise and break-ups and fights are unavoidable. Every girl leans toward corruption. If anything, a stable relationship is the exception, rather the reverse.

You have certainly misunderstood my post, going by your answer!
I have no problem with the fans of cucking and cheating, but the discussion in this ORS thread circles nearly just about this single theme for quite a time! It get´s really old. And as for kinky, just look below at my signature, both games there have (or will have) quite some kinks in them.

 

[jollyjoker27]

Seeing 6 pages worth of new comments in 3 hours -> me thinking surprise update news.

nah....just the 5th unironical round of discussions on cucking, within the last 2 months.

 

[Gicoo]

but the discussion in this ORS thread circles nearly just about this single theme for quite a time!

Because its more intriguing by default? Do you want to discuss Ian and Lenas intellectual awakening, his rise as a book writer and her rise as a songstress? Do you want to discuss Hollys author crisis correlating to her relationship issues? Do you want to discuss Alison and Ians romance? Do you want discussion the citys conflict on emphasizing art and expression vs commercialisation and exploitation? Or isn't it more engaging to speculate on all of the intrigue, backstabbing, betrayals and plots for each character to outdone the others and to come out on top?

I actually tried to analyze the game thoroughly but I got laughed at commenting on a porn game and the mods deleted my posts quite quickly, so its pretty clear that meming the porn stuff about this game is the way to go.

 

[SerHawkes]

-Walks in, see 6 pages of cuck talk, certain people not knowing how to read or understand things-

... I should probably lay off the cocaine...

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