VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.13.3.4] [Eva Kiss]

[varpep]

PilotLara There seems to be a new bug in chapter 11 since the 12.3 alpha update. For some odd reason, the lena_go_holly variable tends to go down to 3 if it was at 5 after Holly kisses Lena in chapter 11 effectively putting Lena and Holly on the non-romantic path. In this playthrough, it is an Ivy dominant corrupted Holly so I'm guessing it's somehow related to that.

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Here is a save just before the incident.

 

[ffive]

In this playthrough, it is an Ivy dominant corrupted Holly so I'm guessing it's somehow related to that.

Yes, having Ivy involved with Holly switches off trinity route:

    l "Thank you so much, Holly. I really value your opinion. You're a great ally to have!"
    h "I'm so glad you trust me enough to make me part of your creative process..."
//...
    elif v8_holly_sex == "ivy" or v8_holly_sex == "lenaivy":
        if lena_go_holly > 3:
            $ lena_go_holly = 3

There's secondary check for it in Ch.12 to make sure it's dead, too:

    if holly_ivy and lena_go_holly > 3:
        $ lena_go_holly = 3

So that's working as intended, not a bug.

 

[lemonsqueezie]

Does anyone know how many specific routes there are?

 

[lucadiadis]

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I have many disagreements with this matrix, but anyway.

 

[varpep]

Yes, having Ivy involved with Holly switches off trinity route:

    l "Thank you so much, Holly. I really value your opinion. You're a great ally to have!"
    h "I'm so glad you trust me enough to make me part of your creative process..."
//...
    elif v8_holly_sex == "ivy" or v8_holly_sex == "lenaivy":
        if lena_go_holly > 3:
            $ lena_go_holly = 3

There's secondary check for it in Ch.12 to make sure it's dead, too:

    if holly_ivy and lena_go_holly > 3:
        $ lena_go_holly = 3

So that's working as intended, not a bug.

In this playthrough though Ian broke up with Lena for Cindy. I wasn't going for the Trinity path. Is it still working as intended?

edit: I just loaded an older save of the playthrough to not let Holly sleep with Ivy and yeah. I think it's working as intended.

edit: Interesting thing though. Holly still comes to seduce Ian at night if the conditions are met. Even when Lena decides that she want's to enter a dedicated relationship with Holly. Maybe it could be that her slut variable (Lena dominant) overrides that . Or Lena and Holly never got to have the talk... edit: hmm does this mean we can intentionally sabotage Lena's relationship with Holly? Sorry Lena but it seems you are getting added to the cuck list

 

[Emoon]

Has anyone been playing this on ubuntu? The 12.3 updates are such that I get "permission denied" when trying to run the executable. This is after trying "chmod u+x" on it. I did not have this problem with 12.2. Does anyone have a fix? Thank you.

Make sure to also set the executable flag for the 'OurRedString' executable inside the 'lib/py3-linux-x86_64/' folder.

 

[Socrambus]

I doubt that the political view has much to do with your view on porn and sex.

Right, left, liberal, radical, they all like to fuck.

Same applies to asexuals. You can find those on every side of the political spectrum.

Specially when we are not talking about actual sex, this is just fiction. A man or a woman can fantasize about being dominated without any correlation to their IRL bedroom behaviour, much less to their general behaviour, socioeconomic status or political beliefs. It would be like saying that if you are in a relationship and masturbate to porn imagining yourself fucking the girl, you are a cheater.

 

[Andrea9999]

Make sure to also set the executable flag for the 'OurRedString' executable inside the 'lib/py3-linux-x86_64/' folder.

Yeah, i got the exact same issue on Mint (based on Ubuntu). Dualbooting into windows and unzipping the same zip-file there fixed the issue. That unzipped game ran perfectly on both windows and linux, so I assume the problem is zip-related somehow and that the permissions warning is incorrect, but I dont have a fix beyond that (except dual booting if thats an option for you)

Thank you both for your replies!
Emoon: I did not know there was a second executable that gets invoked by the first one. I followed your advice and it fixed the problem! Thank you so much!
Thank you, intressemannen! Now we can run the game without visiting windows and having a shared directory.

 

[ffive]

edit: Interesting thing though. Holly still comes to seduce Ian at night if the conditions are met. Even when Lena decides that she want's to enter a dedicated relationship with Holly. Maybe it could be that her slut variable (Lena dominant) overrides that . Or Lena and Holly never got to have the talk... edit: hmm does this mean we can intentionally sabotage Lena's relationship with Holly? Sorry Lena but it seems you are getting added to the cuck list

This sounds like oversight at some point, since if i understand things right, Holly getting involved with Ivy should switch off Lena/Holly romance path (similar to how Lena getting involved with Jeremy disables Lena/Ian getting more serious than just FWB. Although it's more complicated because Holly can get into Lena/Ivy threesome while already dating Lena, effectively giving Lena a "cuck path") When you say, "Even when Lena decides that she want's to enter a dedicated relationship with Holly" which specific decision point do you referer to?

 

[varpep]

When you say, "Even when Lena decides that she want's to enter a dedicated relationship with Holly" which specific decision point do you referer to?

This one.

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Funny thing is, when Ian, Holly and Lena go for a stroll at night time on the beach, Ian senses the romantic tension between the two girls and decides to give them some time alone. Which is why I was gob smacked when minutes later Holly was jumping him in his room.

 

[swiver]

This sounds like oversight at some point, since if i understand things right, Holly getting involved with Ivy should switch off Lena/Holly romance path (similar to how Lena getting involved with Jeremy disables Lena/Ian getting more serious than just FWB. Although it's more complicated because Holly can get into Lena/Ivy threesome while already dating Lena, effectively giving Lena a "cuck path") When you say, "Even when Lena decides that she want's to enter a dedicated relationship with Holly" which specific decision point do you referer to?

oooh, I haven't played a lez focused game, there's a possible cuckquean route?!!

 

[Emoon]

Emoon: I did not know there was a second executable that gets invoked by the first one. I followed your advice and it fixed the problem!

Yeah, the 'OurRedString.sh' in the root folder is basically just a launcher of sorts. The true executable for linux is always located in the 'lib/py3-linux-x86_64' (Python3.x) or the 'lib/linux-x86_64' (Python2.x) folder, no matter which renpy game you load up.

 

[ffive]

This one.

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Funny thing is, when Ian, Holly and Lena go for a stroll at night time on the beach, Ian senses the romantic tension between the two girls and decides to give them some time alone. Which is why I was gob smacked when minutes later Holly was jumping him in his room.

Hmm interesting. This option simply flags Lena has romantic interest in Holly, lena_holly_love which, if we use Lena/Ian and Ian/Lena as analogy doesn't necessarily have to be reciprocated. The check also filters out the case where Ivy got her hands on Holly (either in Ch.8 or in Ch.11 in the showers):

    # holly dating
    if lena_holly_dating:
//...
        if holly_ivy:
            $ lena_holly_love = False
//...
        else:
//...
            menu:
                "{image=icon_love.webp}I want to be with Holly" if lena_axel_desire == False:
                    $ lena_holly_love = True
//...
                "{image=icon_broken.webp}It's not made for me":
                    $ lena_holly_love = False
//...

...so given this, i'd tentatively write it off as intentional opportunity for the player to make (potentially foolish) one-sided choices towards people who won't necessarily return it.

And yeah, it makes a plot where Lena has feelings for slutty Holly who will instead sneak into Ian's bedroom and bang him quite hillarious. Though obv. not for Lena.

 

[ffive]

oooh, I haven't played a lez focused game, there's a possible cuckquean route?!!

I fear at this point this is mostly just speculation about a potential route that might happen down the road. There's some small developments which make it a possibility (either Axel or Ivy effectively dominating Lena while we know these characters aren't into monogamy, Ivy potentially pressuring Lena into bringing Holly into a threesome when Lena and Holly has been "dating") but whether it becomes an actual thing is anyone's guess.

 

[varpep]

Hmm interesting. This option simply flags Lena has romantic interest in Holly, lena_holly_love which, if we use Lena/Ian and Ian/Lena as analogy doesn't necessarily have to be reciprocated. The check also filters out the case where Ivy got her hands on Holly (either in Ch.8 or in Ch.11 in the showers):

    # holly dating
    if lena_holly_dating:
//...
        if holly_ivy:
            $ lena_holly_love = False
//...
        else:
//...
            menu:
                "{image=icon_love.webp}I want to be with Holly" if lena_axel_desire == False:
                    $ lena_holly_love = True
//...
                "{image=icon_broken.webp}It's not made for me":
                    $ lena_holly_love = False
//...

...so given this, i'd tentatively write it off as intentional opportunity for the player to make (potentially foolish) one-sided choices towards people who won't necessarily return it.

And yeah, it makes a plot where Lena has feelings for slutty Holly who will instead sneak into Ian's bedroom and bang him after Lena/Ian breakup quite hillarious. Though obv. not for Lena.

Keep in mind though, on that particular playthrough Holly never slept with Ivy. She did sleep with Mark, Robert and Lena though. Xupuzulla's gonna have a field day with this one

 

[BlandChili]

Keep in mind though, on that particular playthrough Holly never slept with Ivy. She did sleep with Mark, Robert and Lena though. Xupuzulla's gonna have a field day with this one

In my playthrough Holly has slept with Lena and Mark but she didn't get with Ian at the end, I assume because he shares the room with Emma. This is interesting actually.

Given that Ian is aware of their romance at the beach though, I would find it weird that he doesn't mention it when Holly jumps him. There were no dialogue regarding that I take it? I would assume Ian would at least utter his surprise realistically, even if he's perfectly willing to bang Holly.

oooh, I haven't played a lez focused game, there's a possible cuckquean route?!!

Or just an open relationship. Lena and Holly can both get with Mark already without any changes to their romance otherwise.

 

[ffive]

Keep in mind though, on that particular playthrough Holly never slept with Ivy. She did sleep with Mark, Robert and Lena though. Xupuzulla's gonna have a field day with this one

I mean, obviously -- if Holly had slept with Ivy then you wouldn't have gotten the heart option for Lena in the first place. She simply fucked enough people to get the "slutty" flag and a taste for casual sex, so she jumped at opportunity to add Ian to her tally.

In my playthrough Holly has slept with Lena and Mark but she didn't get with Ian at the end, I assume because he shares the room with Emma. This is interesting actually.

Yes, for Ian sex with Emma gets first priority; either if they're already sleeping in the same room, or in case of Lena/Ian breakup, if Ian has fucked Emma before then Emma wins the race to his bedroom. Probably elbows Holly out of the way.

 

[Xupuzulla]

Keep in mind though, on that particular playthrough Holly never slept with Ivy. She did sleep with Mark, Robert and Lena though. Xupuzulla's gonna have a field day with this one

So shes the town public bicycle?
That sounds like all my Holly saves tbh

 

[swiver]

I fear at this point this is mostly just speculation about a potential route that might happen down the road. There's some small developments which make it a possibility (either Axel or Ivy effectively dominating Lena while we know these characters aren't into monogamy, Ivy potentially pressuring Lena into bringing Holly into a threesome when Lena and Holly has been "dating") but whether it becomes an actual thing is anyone's guess.

Thanks for explanation/disclaimer. Goud speculation though! It's funny being there while ORS is developing. GGGB was my first VN, introduced me to this whole world, but it had already been complete. Since then I've watche hundreds of games develop, and yes many wishlists and requests go understandably unfulfilled, but this IS the one developer I feel I can be optimistic about finding the most potential scenarios and making the fullest use of their story.

Or just an open relationship. Lena and Holly can both get with Mark already without any changes to their romance otherwise.

I was gonna straight up say "meh, if it ain't twisted or kinky in some way or another..." but wouldn't mind seeing that too.

 

[Turret]

And yeah, it makes a plot where Lena has feelings for slutty Holly who will instead sneak into Ian's bedroom and bang him quite hillarious. Though obv. not for Lena.

This potential play option also underlines something else we can find out during the game and had quite a number of hints for. Wild Holly definitely planned her journey to sluttiness and had specific goals in mind.
It becomes clear that wild Holly acted on the belief, how mistaken she was on it depends on how we play Ian, that Ian prefers wild, slutty girls as GF. (and her development in this direction is also more probable if e.g. Ivy and Lena are slutty themselves)
Considering that even the normal and shy versions of Ian are impressed by Holly´s new confidence, style and playfulness, she was not totally wrong.
In some earlier posts I theorised on some possibilities how slut Holly develops further after ch.12. It seems my theory that if Holly becomes a couple with Ian now, she either bottles her slut side up for the bedroom or develops her wild side further in conjunction with what Ian likes/can abide with, is strenghtened by the option above.
Slutty Holly definitely had fun becoming how she is now and it is certain that parts of her newfound wildness are here to stay, but she had a specific goal in mind.