VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.13.3.6] [Eva Kiss]

[ExtremeLips]

Actually Holly is the biggest slut in the game and that's why we all love her.

When the game starts and we are given control it's Ivy. After that it is fully up to the player

 

[Mystogans_Wrath]

Story-wise we're past halfway point, but in term of development time we might not have reached halfway point

Really? Imo we just getting started the fun things are all almost done being set up.

 

[Bruhski303]

What are the conditions for the JeremyxBillyxAlison threesome in chapter 9?

 

[SerHawkes]

I think we'd be all on board with this.

OK, maybe all except SerHawkes. But still.

 

[AlphaDlaW]

Maybe it didn't happen in your playthrough, but it can happen in others. Which means within in this game, Lena, Ian and Holly all have the potential to be more promiscuous than Ivy. It may very well be, that outside the game Ivy is fucking around, left , right and centre, but so far the evidence is all circumstantial. Whereas, with these three we can actually see it.

For instance, it's possible for Ian to have sex with Gillian, Lena, Cindy, Alison, Emma, Cherry, Minerva, Louise and Jessica in a single playthrough. Whereas Lena, can have sex with Ian, Robert, Mike, Axel or Jack, Seymour, Jeremy, Holly or Mark,Louise and Ivy, plus another guy she meets at Blazers, and give Marcel a BJ. And then Holly can have sex with Mark, Robert, Lena and Ivy, plus gives BJ's to about 5 or 6 guys in a gloryhole. Ivy on the other hand has sex with Lena and Holly, Mike out of picture, and gives Jeremy, plus one guy in the gloryhole a BJ.

bro. lena and ian are the MC. of course you're going to see what they're up to. but that does not mean they are more promiscuous than ivy. it feels like you guys just skim through the game and don't read it. ivy is the corrupter. you think someone whose sucking jeremy off in front of his girl, takes holly to a glory hole, tries to convince lena to do only.fan, offers lena drugs, encourages her best friend to just fuck someone to get over axel, tells lena to use her body to get what she wants from the cafe boss, the list goes on. if this is actually what you believe, youre not paying attention to the game.

 

[varpep]

bro. lena and ian are the MC. of course you're going to see what they're up to. but that does not mean they are more promiscuous than ivy. it feels like you guys just skim through the game and don't read it. ivy is the corrupter. you think someone whose sucking jeremy off in front of his girl, takes holly to a glory hole, tries to convince lena to do only.fan, offers lena drugs, encourages her best friend to just fuck someone to get over axel, tells lena to use her body to get what she wants from the cafe boss, the list goes on. if this is actually what you believe, youre not paying attention to the game.

All hail Queen Ivy the Virgin Queen!

 

[Geigi]

Ivy is a corruptor, she can be a morally corrupt person without being more sexually active than other characters. Corruption isn't only looked on how much "body count" you have, but your thoughts, behaviour and what are you willing to do to gain what you want. Lying, blackmail, persuade someone to do something bad. The perfect example are Ivy from Poison Ivy movie and Kathryn from Cruel Intentions movie. Ivy seduces her friend's father to cheat on his wife, wife dies "thanks" to Ivy but her friend takes her down(FMC) and Kathryn makes a bet with her step brother to corrupt a virgin(FMC) and in return she will have anal sex with him. He dies at the end because of Kathryn. It's safe to say that corruption failed here because he had fallen in love with FMC. So, I'm laughing my ass off whenever there are games with corruption of FMC because a woman can be much more vicious than a man when she doesn't get what she wants. It makes me think that those FMC virgin games make Devs who are barely adult.

 

[Blurpee69]

But what I like about ORS is the portrayal of male friends around a male mc. In many other games it's as if they are non-existent, just the mc and a harem of girls, occasionally with a dumb wingman like Derek in BaD.

Wut? Derek is a hugely integral part of the narrative of the game. Has his own relationship and the problems that come with it that the MC can help him with. And there is quite literally an entire fraternity of men that the MC interacted with and helps.

Derek is also probably the smartest character in BaD, he just doesn't apply himself because school votes him.

 

[Gicoo]

Wut? Derek is a hugely integral part of the narrative of the game. Has his own relationship and the problems that come with it that the MC can help him with. And there is quite literally an entire fraternity of men that the MC interacted with and helps.

Derek is also probably the smartest character in BaD, he just doesn't apply himself because school votes him.

The bros in BaD exist to be undermined by the MC. They all have issues with their girlfriends and MC can swoop in or, if he feels generously, help them.
While Ian can do that to his friends as well, he is far more limited and not everything is in his control. The dudes around him pursue relationships on their own.

 

[varpep]

Wut? Derek is a hugely integral part of the narrative of the game. Has his own relationship and the problems that come with it that the MC can help him with. And there is quite literally an entire fraternity of men that the MC interacted with and helps.

Derek is also probably the smartest character in BaD, he just doesn't apply himself because school votes him.

The bros in BaD exist to be undermined by the MC. They all have issues with their girlfriends and MC can swoop in or, if he feels generously, help them.
While Ian can do that to his friends as well, he is far more limited and not everything is in his control. The dudes around him pursue relationships on their own.

Be careful. You may upset they who shall not be named

 

[Geigi]

Be careful. You may upset they who shall not be named

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[GibboBtw]

The bros in BaD exist to be undermined by the MC. They all have issues with their girlfriends and MC can swoop in or, if he feels generously, help them. While Ian can do that to his friends as well, he is far more limited and not everything is in his control. The dudes around him pursue relationships on their own.

Idk if this against the rules for being off-topic, if which it is I apologise and this can be deleted no problem.

But I've gotta say, I'm not sure what game you're playing where the bros are "undermined" by the MC. The brotherhood and shit you get up to with the DIK's are some of the great moments in the game. The MC does get put into more a leadership role, but that's just the case for a lot of MC's in games. They get put in charge. He doesn't really undermine anybody that I can recall though. He get's pushed into it by his brothers.

As far as issues with GF's, only 3 of them are in relationships out of like 9. And two of those end with or without the MC's input, you have NO say in it, they will break up. (and you can only do sexual things with one of them if you want to) as for the 3rd, they probably have the best relationship out of every couple in the entire game and will never break up with each other. So again, Idk what you're talking about with "all having issues"

And the DIK's are in a frat, so It's not really suprising that most of them wouldn't be pursuing relationships, most of them just wanna fuck around. But again, some of them are (without any input from the MC). Like Rusty is trying to get with that Micha Chick rather hard, Derek trying to get with Ashley, Tommy and Nick both wanting Heather. They ARE pursuing things, without having to ask the MC.

So yeah, no idea what you've been playing.

 

[varpep]

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Thanks for that cursed image in your dp. Excuse me while I go bleach my eyes...bleh!
JK. I know Hermione(the actress) use to have a huge crush on Malfoy(the actor).

 

[Geigi]

Thanks for that cursed image in your dp. Excuse me while I go bleach my eyes...bleh!
JK. I know Hermione(the actress) use to have a huge crush on Malfoy(the actor).

I'm a huge fan of enemies to lovers trope.

 

[Gicoo]

And two of those end with or without the MC's input, you have NO say in it, they will break up.

Which of course is very convenient for the MC, because new girls got available.

I'm not pointing out how every "rival" or male NPC there sucks ass and is there to be a pseudo obstacle for the MC, when in reality they get beaten automatically so everything falls in place of MCs power fantasy.

ORS has its bias toward Ian and Lena, but they still can't fuck everyone without consequences, love interests make demands, break up or cheat if you the MCs don't commit. Other rivals exist and are genuine obstacles you have to overcome with relatively high skills and clever choices. And if the love interests get ignored, they lead their own life and pursue relationships on they own, something that confuses players who got so bleached from your regular power fantasy game (how dare Alison sleep with Jeremy when I make Ian not commit to her, and why isn't Ian having the biggest dick???).

So praising BaD when its a very simple power fantasy game with one chad MC plowing the entire campus with 95% girls only interested in him is not comparable to the character dynamics provided in ORS.

 

[Zara Scarlet]

bro. lena and ian are the MC. of course you're going to see what they're up to. but that does not mean they are more promiscuous than ivy. it feels like you guys just skim through the game and don't read it. ivy is the corrupter. you think someone whose sucking jeremy off in front of his girl, takes holly to a glory hole, tries to convince lena to do only.fan, offers lena drugs, encourages her best friend to just fuck someone to get over axel, tells lena to use her body to get what she wants from the cafe boss, the list goes on. if this is actually what you believe, youre not paying attention to the game.

!) Lena cheats on Ian, knowing full well how badly he was affected by Gillian doing the same, and waits all of a few hours after they start a relationship, before she jumps into bed with Axel.

2) Ian does exactly the same with Cindy, although in his case, he's not merely betraying Lena, but his best friend as well. He lies repeatedly to Wade about what he's actually doing with Cindy, and rather than helping Wade do the right thing, he keeps silent, hoping that Wade will make things worse (he does), so Ian can take her away from him. This is the height of hypocrisy, when you consider how Ian rails against Gillian, for doing the same thing to him.

3) Ian agrees to help Perry with Emma, but then decides to have her for himself instead.

4) He does pretty much the same with Cherry as well, after encouraging Perry to make his own move on her.

5) Oh and he has sex with her, even after Lena tells him, how much she dislikes Cherry and Ian promises that he never will again.

6) Then Lena has sex with Seymour, knowing full well, that he's doing lots of nasty things to exploit the ordinary, hardworking citizens of Baluart.

7) She continues to have sex with Robert, even after Ian has made it clear how much he despises him.

8) She encourages Holly, to have sex with Mark as much as Ivy, and it's her idea, not Ivy's, for Holly to fuck Robert.

9) It's her choice to take drugs, she can still refuse.

10) Lena has sex with Mike, knowing full well he has a girlfriend. She's doing exactly the same thing that Cherry did.

11) She sleeps with her best friend's boyfriend, despite knowing how worried Louise is, that Jeremy might cheat on her with Ivy

12) She also sucks Jeremy off in front of Louise.

13) She has sex with Holly on multiple occasions, and helps Ivy to corrupt her. She knows exactly what Ivy is up to, but makes no attempt to stop it.

14) On some playthroughs Lena steals out of the till, at the cafe, knowing full well that the cafe is struggling financially.

15) She gives Mike or Mark a BJ in the nightclub toilets, whilst Ian is waiting for her outside. She can even do this, immediately after they've just made up and decided to carry on with their relationship. And this can happen on any route, not just the cuck route. She tries to blame the drugs (if she takes them), but the real reason is, she wants to be bad. This scene demonstrates how slutty Lena can be, when she wants to. She's not an innocent girl, and when she gives in to her dark side, she's easily the equal of Ivy, in the ' Bad Girl' stakes.

I reckon I could fill up another page, with all the 'nasty' things that Ian and Lena do in this game, at the expense of friends and loved ones. One thing is certain, you couldn't do the same with Ivy, because you pretty much exhausted all the possibilities above. Yes, Ivy does her fair share of behaving badly, but don't try to make out that Ian and Lena are blameless and saints by comparison, because it's simply not true. Both of them, do far worse than Ivy. They betray each other and their friends, knowing full well, how devastating it is to be on the receiving end. Each of them, tell the other, how bad it was when Axel and Gillian betrayed them, and yet within a few hours, both of them do precisely the same thing. Lena lies, betrays, cheats, steals and plays a big role in corrupting Holly. Whilst Ian, seduces Cindy, betrays Perry, Wade and Lena, leads Holly on and then ignores her, has sex with Cindy, Alison, Emma, Cherry and Minerva, all the while that he's dating Lena, and acting like he's only interested in her. I'm sure I haven't exhausted all the possibilities, but surely you're getting the picture by now.? This idea, that people seem so keen to push, that Ivy is worse than anybody in this game, is simply not bourne out by the actual facts.

 

[Gicoo]

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ORS is from the viewpoint of Ian and Lena, so naturally they appear to be raunchier than a secondary character like Ivy or Jeremy, who are fucking off-screen and whose persepctive we don't have.
All the stuff Ivy makes Holly do? The way Ivy acts, its indicated that she did the same and worse, hence its only an initiation towards her "student/pet". If Holly or Lena would be sluttier than her, she would point it out. When Lena and Ian go out and finds themselves seducing and fucking a hot person, its an exciting event for them. For Ivy and Jeremy? it's tuesdays, they work at a night club, they fuck strangers regularly.

Applying your logic in another case: Ian can beat up Robert twice, beat Milo, subdue Wade, beat some meathead in the first round, start a fight with Axel and Jeremy.
Wen didn't fight anyone in this game. All he did was tricking Jeremy once. Clearly, Ian is stronger and more skilled than Wen. There is no evidence telling us exactly how and why Wen is stronger, according to your logic. But we know it because we can interfer, read the subtext and use our common sense.

 

[Geigi]

ORS is from the viewpoint of Ian and Lena, so naturally they appear to be raunchier than a secondary character like Ivy or Jeremy, who are fucking off-screen and whose persepctive we don't have.
All the stuff Ivy makes Holly do? The way Ivy acts, its indicated that she did the same and worse, hence its only an initiation towards her "student/pet". If Holly or Lena would be sluttier than her, she would point it out. When Lena and Ian go out and finds themselves seducing and fucking a hot person, its an exciting event for them. For Ivy and Jeremy? it's tuesdays, they work at a night club, they fuck strangers regularly.

Applying your logic in another case: Ian can beat up Robert twice, beat Milo, subdue Wade, beat some meathead in the first round, start a fight with Axel and Jeremy.
Wen didn't fight anyone in this game. All he did was tricking Jeremy once. Clearly, Ian is stronger and more skilled than Wen. There is no evidence telling us exactly how and why Wen is stronger, according to your logic. But we know it because we can interfer, read the subtext and use our common sense.

This recycled conversation will be useless when Ivy starts slutting it up with all characters and prove what we have been saying. Idk why Zara insists that Ivy don't have much content but neither have other female characters. Some have less, some more. All characters have predetermined personality/traits until you start playing and make choices because it's a fucking game.

 

[GibboBtw]

Which of course is very convenient for the MC, because new girls got available.

I'm not pointing out how every "rival" or male NPC there sucks ass and is there to be a pseudo obstacle for the MC, when in reality they get beaten automatically so everything falls in place of MCs power fantasy.

ORS has its bias toward Ian and Lena, but they still can't fuck everyone without consequences, love interests make demands, break up or cheat if you the MCs don't commit. Other rivals exist and are genuine obstacles you have to overcome with relatively high skills and clever choices. And if the love interests get ignored, they lead their own life and pursue relationships on they own, something that confuses players who got so bleached from your regular power fantasy game (how dare Alison sleep with Jeremy when I make Ian not commit to her, and why isn't Ian having the biggest dick???).

So praising BaD when its a very simple power fantasy game with one chad MC plowing the entire campus with 95% girls only interested in him is not comparable to the character dynamics provided in ORS.

Wdym "new girls are available for the MC" one of those two girls is wanted by two of your brothers, so chances are nothing major will be happening with her (he might add a route for her sure, but it'll be really low prio if anything) and the other one...

No...just no...You will not be sleeping/getting with her...that's 100% fact and you would know that if you've ever played the game.

And then, "the entire campus with 95% girls" like...wtf are you talking about?? Do the DIKs, Tri-Alphas, Preps, Nerds and random side characters just not appear in the game for you or what lmao...Honestly the way you're talking, it really seems like you've never even played it, and instead just hate how popular it is.

Calling BADIK a "very simple power fantasy game" is kinda insane as well NGL. It's a brilliant game with some of the best written LI's in any VN, hence why it's so popular.

You really do come off as one of those "AVN hipsters" you find every now and again. Who think that looking down on the most popular and played AVN, somehow makes you smarter and better than the people that play it.

 

[SerHawkes]

Ivy don't have much content but

She doesn't. The vast bulk of her supposed content is simply fan service. 4-5 total scenes in total, all of which very on choice. All of which are Lena-centric. Meanwhile Ian gets fan service and a brief moment of optional grab ass.

EK has a major skill issue when it comes to balancing and handing out content evenly.