VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch. 13.1 BETA] [Eva Kiss]

[BloodyMares]

I know your actual point here was on seemingly minor decisions majorly affecting future plot points. Totally agree. As an aside though (I know it was just an example to illustrate your explanation), I don't think showing vs not showing Lena's Peoplegram to Jeremy would come to anything more than a hidden stat point towards a path & possibly a comment in an argument. All seemingly innocuous decisions that themselves create a pivotal factor have so-far shown themselves within a chapter or two. IMO it would be poor game design for an innocuous action in the first two chapters to prove pivotal 10 chapters later. As much as it might make logical or narrative sense, in a game design sense, it's the sort of thing players rip their hair out over. I have faith Eva would try to avoid it.

Though you know 10x more about this game than anyone in the forum & likely patreon, so maybe there's something about Chapter 10 you know that we don't yet. (Kidding. I know it was in theory).

That's true, most of the main choices are still accessible in almost any branch, but some have harder bars for entry, either taxing Will or require higher (or lower) skill level to bypass the lacking requirement. I don't mean that showing Lena's Peoplegram would enable a whole different path entirely on its own, and not be accessible otherwise. I agree, it would just be poor game design, where it might be realistic, but not at all player-friendly. But still, it could be used as a contributing factor, to make the path accessible easier or something. Just one of many keys unlocking the door.

 

[_Zebra_]

Another plus for Nat is that her character pretty-much stays the same regardless of the player's choices in GGGB, with only (comparatively) slight variations that could easily be explained away in ORS if even mentioned. No need to make two character variations in ORS this way. There were several GGGB characters that could apply to though.

Fingers crossed for Iris or some of the pool party gang, but my imaginary money's on Nat. For all we know, it'll be the landwhale. Stan gets a girlfriend?

Also agree that it might be an original non GGGB character in the silhouette.

Yeah, that’s an important aspect that counts in her favour. Of course we don't know what Eva wants with the cameo either, and my suggestion took it for granted that the person will be a sexual option for the protagonists. It could be a person who comes in and plays an important role in one scene, and then steps back into the periphery; or it could be someone who'll stay for the rest of the story but play a smaller, more easter-egg-like role. But Nat is definitely among the characters it would be a bad idea to introduce and then not write any sexual content with. While the landwhale is on the other side of that scale …

Based on what we know until now, IMO there are 3 situations in which we could meet new people:

1. Ivy and Lena meet up with the Wildcats;
2. Billy got some friends, here we could see someone from Tyrone's gang;
3. And my personal choice, we finally meet Mike's girlfriend. We don't know too much about her and I am sure that many assumed that it is Gillian. In a way it fits perfectly into the story. It will create some tension between Ian and Mike and it will be a nice parallel between Mike and Cherry. Also, you won't feel bad that Mike cheated (if you are on that path); Gillian did it to Ian so she deserves it. But what if instead of Gillian, we find out that it is someone from GGGB.
   1. Eva - it will fit the small chested description and the silhouette fits the hair that Eva had in GGGB.
   2. Nat - it will fit the other description, that she is into anal and the silhouette is similar with the one from GGGB.

Probably both Eva and Nat will play a smaller role if number 3 is true. At most they will show Ian what pictures she found in her boyfriend's phone.

 

[Doppelgang]

Based on what we know until now, IMO there are 3 situations in which we could meet new people:

1. Ivy and Lena meet up with the Wildcats;
2. Billy got some friends, here we could see someone from Tyrone's gang;
3. And my personal choice, we finally meet Mike's girlfriend. We don't know too much about her and I am sure that many assumed that it is Gillian. In a way it fits perfectly into the story. It will create some tension between Ian and Mike and it will be a nice parallel between Mike and Cherry. Also, you won't feel bad that Mike cheated (if you are on that path); Gillian did it to Ian so she deserves it. But what if instead of Gillian, we find out that it is someone from GGGB.
   1. Eva - it will fit the small chested description and the silhouette fits the hair that Eva had in GGGB.
   2. Nat - it will fit the other description, that she is into anal and the silhouette is similar with the one from GGGB.

Probably both Eva and Nat will play a smaller role if number 3 is true. At most they will show Ian what pictures she found in her boyfriend's phone.

Yeah, that's a good summary of the most likely situations. None of those are on Ian's side of the story, though—maybe the MMA training or his writing career could be alternatives? But the three you mention are the most logical ones, I agree. Or maybe Eva will create another setting that we have no basis for predicting.

Nat doesn't fit the small chested description, so I think she's unlikely to be Mike's girlfriend. And Eva has a lot of different endings in GGGB. She could even be dead, and I doubt Eva Kiss will want to make some of the endings more "canon" than others. But the woman hiding behind the silhouette may very well be Mike's girlfriend.

 

[doctor13]

Mark is a GGGB character that is guaranteed to show up.

 

[JohnnyKiss]

The fact that some people think Ian isn't going to get cucked by Jeremy after jerking off to the porn he sent him is hilarious to me.

I for one, am looking forward to it in 2025 once the Chapter 11 is out.

 

[Night Hacker]

The fact that some people think Ian isn't going to get cucked by Jeremy after jerking off to the porn he sent him is hilarious to me.

I for one, am looking forward to it in 2025 once the Chapter 11 is out.

The fact that some people don't have a clue what a "cuck" is in hilarious to me.

 

[GifMeMore1987]

Somebody mentioned Jeremy. Canto Forte commenting in 3..., 2..., 1...

 

[JohnnyKiss]

The fact that some people don't have a clue what a "cuck" is in hilarious to me.

Ian watching his girlfriend getting plowed by another man and jerking off to it is not "cuck"? Alright...

 

[Canto Forte]

Remy steals, that is what he does, a textbook definition of a bull in cringe mangas.
He does what he wants, as a bartender he entertains his guests, throwing pics of
his conquests like scraps to other guys he thinks are beneath him.

All the guys in this game are written beneath him as he gets girls dropped on him,
just like any dumb bull would in those mangas.

He is a caricature, a trope,
especailly like Ian is another trope: bull- JR meets incel-Ian.

The cruelty of JR shows as he convinces the discombobulated Ian to ask his crush out,
only to go molest her just ”cause evil bull assholes are evil and so unworthy,
but dev ex makina throws all these girls into him.

Only girl to resist, Ivy, is the other antichrist of this story,
so we got evil cancel evil.

Sure enough players fall for these evil + evil psycho maniacal

whoremongers like moths in the flame. Enjoy the burnt smell! The pyre rages for days.

 

[scor099]

Remy steals, that is what he does, a textbook definition of a bull in cringe mangas.
He does what he wants, as a bartender he entertains his guests, throwing pics of
his conquests like scraps to other guys he thinks are beneath him.

All the guys in this game are written beneath him as he gets girls dropped on him,
just like any dumb bull would in those mangas.

He is a caricature, a trope,
especailly like Ian is another trope: bull- JR meets incel-Ian.

The cruelty of JR shows as he convinces the discombobulated Ian to ask his crush out,
only to go molest her just ”cause evil bull assholes are evil and so unworthy,
but dev ex makina throws all these girls into him.

Only girl to resist, Ivy, is the other antichrist of this story,
so we got evil cancel evil.

Sure enough players fall for these evil + evil psycho maniacal

whoremongers like moths in the flame. Enjoy the burnt smell! The pyre rages for days.

you're taking this too seriously. you know you can block your worst nightmare JEREMY from being with any girl through your choices right? you can let him have all the girls or non of them. I really don't know if you're serious or just trolling.

 

[GifMeMore1987]

 

[Canto Forte]

The thing is, like the walkthrough maker said in so many posts:
Ian has to actively fight Remy off his girls, for real,
more than actually talking to them,
making it a pain to play this according to the premise:
Ian gets better and has meaningful talks with the crush of his life,
but the fire options are tricky to get points enough for
and one could easily loose even the BFF crush and everyone else to Remy
because of that first night out where Remy is all over Ian”s crush
for the most horrible time of his life: that kind a betrayal is grounds to terminate all friendship,
which this game does not allow, as Ian is held into the incel circle
with all the other loosers written beneath Remy for plot shenanigans, I guess.

 

[_Zebra_]

The fact that some people think Ian isn't going to get cucked by Jeremy after jerking off to the porn he sent him is hilarious to me.

I for one, am looking forward to it in 2025 once the Chapter 11 is out.

If you are into Alison, you might get that in Chapter 10. If you play all the cards right:
- miss out your first chance with Alison
- ask Jeremy for details
- go after her the second time (as in sleep with her, you'll need 1 will point)
- ask Jeremy for pictures (you'll get only one)
- try to max out the relationship with Alison(full love route)
- in chapter 7 I think, you can end up with this:

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- agree to have a threesome
Most likely it won't be a cuck scenario, but definitely you can view it as a hotwife/sharing scenario.

 

[Canto Forte]

iAN: i KNOW KING FU, YOU ASSHOLE! HIJAAaaaAAAaaaaaaaaa!!!!!

miss out your first chance with Alison

Ian: I am getting my BFF home safe it I have to kill all these assholes!!!!!

ask Jeremy for details

Ian: Who that assholle? He a nobody! Go fkk yourself for even suggesting it!!

ask Jeremy for pictures

Ian: Phukkkkkkkk!!!!! I do not need dkk pics form that asshole, are you mental !!!

try to max out the relationship with Alison

Ian: this game is rigged for that asshole! I am murdering him and burning down his bar!

 

[CoalPhelps]

The thing is, like the walkthrough maker said in so many posts:
Ian has to actively fight Remy off his girls, for real,
more than actually talking to them,
making it a pain to play this according to the premise:
Ian gets better and has meaningful talks with the crush of his life,
but the fire options are tricky to get points enough for
and one could easily loose even the BFF crush and everyone else to Remy
because of that first night out where Remy is all over Ian”s crush
for the most horrible time of his life: that kind a betrayal is grounds to terminate all friendship,
which this game does not allow, as Ian is held into the incel circle
with all the other loosers written beneath Remy for plot shenanigans, I guess.

'Da hell you're talking about, Allison isn't even a crush for Ian, it's the opposite in their situation, just... Baaah, smh.

 

[Canto Forte]

Genuinely intrigued here ... she LIKES IAN AND WANTS TO GO FORWARD WITH HIM?

it's the opposite in their situation

HOw the hell is Remy molesting her, almost crushing her,
if SHE WANTS AND DESIRES IAN???

 

[Yokanzo]

Is it worth pursuing Cindy at the expense of your friendship with Wade?
I had an option where I could tell Wade to fight for her and I'm not sure if that causes him to clean up his act or not.

 

[Canto Forte]

You get a scene with her in the back alley and Jeremy bombs your good times,
because dev ex makina likes to get the asshole in every damn scene.
Players are obsessed with this over the top trope bull Remy, there is no escaping him.
Wade is a non variable at this time, just bringing you bad karma and down on your luck feelings.

 

[pavlogrk]

The fact that some people think Ian isn't going to get cucked by Jeremy after jerking off to the porn he sent him is hilarious to me.

I for one, am looking forward to it in 2025 once the Chapter 11 is out.

firstly not everyone plays the same way you do and secondly chapter eleven won't be out before 2077

 

[Yokanzo]

In my game Lena fucked Robert and some other guys for a bit but Ian had Alison and I think a couple other girls. But I found it immersive that way in that he was just a rebound guy she fucked without having any feelings for him, dumped him when it was convenient and gradually went for Ian. Ian likewise had his own situation and it culminated in them becoming a couple.

Where I fucked up was trusting that I still had a way out of the Seymour situation and Lena got railroaded into being his sex toy by cosplaying that scene from True Lies. I guess there were strings attached in those photo shoots but I didn't expect her actions to cause the guy to basically pull strings to ruin her other jobs so she'd have no choice but to be with him. Especially after entering a committed relationship. THAT is some real cucking/NTR shit right there. You only get let off on a technicality.

Anyway not sure why everyone is so weird about Jeremy in this game. He's not a threat unless you work hard to make him one. There are charismatic fuck boys out there who can and will attract all kinds of women including the ones you like in real life. His character isn't out of the ordinary other than the weird emphasis some people place on him. Alison isn't even that special. She reminds me of people I knew in real life who are keeners in their professional lives but also sexually frustrated with their crushes not reciprocating so they go out and fuck anyone else to feel better. Guys do it too.

Eva Kiss seems to have provided enough variation that its really up to the player to decide how much of a trainwreck everyone becomes.