VN - Ren'Py - Pale Carnations [Ch.4 Up.5] [Mutt & Jeff]

This is the best worst game I have ever played. I have never played a game that gets me so fuming angry before. It does such an amazing job at getting you empathetic for the girls and absolutely raging at Kathleen and the other old slimy fucks. I think this is the first time I have played entirely through a porn game (it’s not done, but you know what I mean) and never gotten hard once. The characters, art, story, music, and even pacing are so quality that I can’t stop playing, but said story is so fucked that I can never get off to it. Just when I’m about to alt+f4 with rage it reaches a calm spot (the mc hangs out with his mom, or he hangs out in relative peace with Ian, Hana and Mina) in order to push me away from the metaphorical cliff.

Most of the time in porn games that have a fucked story I can dissociate because it’s unrealistic or it’s not written well enough for me to care, but this feels real. The Carnation Club is something that could actually exist, because rich people have all the power and we know that underground sex trafficking is a thing that exists among the elite anyways. The only thing keeping me going, apart from the amazing writing and story, is the hope that all the girls will be able to find a happy ending and I will have the chance to see the light drain from Kathleen eyes as I slowly strangle her to death.

Am I getting more emotionally invested into and angry at a porn game than I should? Oh, for sure. Over empathizing with fictional characters is always something I’ve had problems with, to the extent that I can’t watch most overly violent action movies or read psychological mangas. Is this game well enough written that most people not completely fucked in the head would share at least a fraction of my feelings? Yes. It’s not even that I’m opposed to sadistic porn games, it’s just that I like my sadistic kinky shit to be at least partially consensual (which this is NOT, despite what some may say) or unrealistic.

This is an amazing game, a terrible porn game, and something that I thoroughly recommend nobody ever play unless you are a king at dissociating or just don’t feel empathy. A love-hate relationship doesn’t even begin to describe how I feel about this game. If you do decide to delve into this game, be prepared.

Fantastic renders and overall an acceptable story and prose that never tries to be what it isn't. The pace is good and the kinks are very, very good with hints at more extreme stuff to come. I like where everything is going with this. I like how the renders aren't totally cookie cutter and they really do look great.

I like the choices you are given. I would almost suggest playing this one without a guide. I think that playing how you want is probably the best way to play. I never felt like I was clearly missing out on content without the guide. Maybe I was, couldn't say for sure. I would like the positive, negative, and neutral options for characters to be more clear though. Often it is hard to tell if you are doing what a character likes or not. This isn't a terrible thing though because I do feel you are generally rewarded by just saying and doing what you want to do.

Uau. I am not usually a fan of those type of models (honey select?) or corruption games but this one was a pleasant surprise.

The renders and animations are high quality and I quite liked that you can choose how much you want to let Edwin fall into the debauchery of this high society brothel.
Also the game has a interesting story and does a good job on developing its characters.
Like Kathleen the mature and sadistic woman who has her own plans to the brothel other than just a place for rich old perverts indulge in their fantasies; or Veronica the tall amazon who enjoys taking control of her sexual partners and will do anything to save her gym; or Hana the smartass bartender-musician who tolerates her scumbag father for her mother's sake.


All in all, Pale Carnations is one really good game.

Wanted to write a comment but it got quite long so I'm turning in a review instead.

Reviewing Ch.3 Update 1 as of writing.

Loving this game so far! This is one of my favorite concepts for an erotic story and Felicia caught my attention (I'm a sucker for tan girls) in the preview shot of her in the rain of cash. She was my initial favorite but as I progressed I was equally charmed by most of the other characters as well. For now I'd say Felicia and Hana are tied as my favorites among the girls.

Killian is scummy but he is a real bro for the MC and it's nice having a best friend character in these stories. On a similar note, I also really like Uncle Chuck. He's the old mentor that knows when to be serious and when to cut loose. It really hits with me since I get the same vibes with a mentor figure I have in my life, minus the owning-an-extralegal-gentlemen's-club part.

Mina seemed like that airheaded girl that I would typically dislike but she actually turned that around and it made her really likable for me. She also seems to be one of the anchors to normal life that the MC has outside of the club. Hana also initially seemed to be a character I would set aside and leave alone but her development in the story is really sweet. Now I look forward to seeing more interactions between her and the MC.

The main appeal to me of the concept in the game is the contrast between the reputable image of people in normal life compared to the debauchery they revel in behind the closed doors. Overall I'm excited to see both the fucked up games in the club and the wholesome moments the MC will have outside of it.

Version reviewed : Ch. 3 Update 1

I'm not a fan of HS renders but in this game they're very good with HD textures. All the main girls have their own look well tied to their personality. Their facial expressions received a pretty damn good work.

The writing is excellent with great dialogues in which you can totally immerse yourself.

Not recommended to sensitive people, you're not the sole world of the LI. They're not virgins and get corrupted by other people (not all of them though). In this world of debauchery, you still have the option to romance most of them. This is not a femdom oriented game, but the bit of that content is quite good although the MC is a bit too reluctant to my taste.

The girls have their own personality and a background that you can learn more about.

Well done

Non-Native english speaker here and my first review, so please don't kill me.

Revier for Chapter 3 Update 1
First of all I also love this game beacuse of 4K renders . This is the best game I have played for both last year and this year till now.

I have played this game since the day it was released and my god this game has the largest content for the prolouge of all the games I have ever played heck even most of the games for v0.3, v0.4 or even for v0.5 .

Pros:

• The best renders I have ever seen and like I have said before 4K renders
  
• Beautiful and pretty unique characters
• Ability set-up the MC's Character right at the start
• Characters stay true to their personality so no girl will be going out of script just for MC's dick
• Damn good branching paths and every action has its consequences either good or bad which is sadly missed in many games
• Awesome story, It makes you glued to this game instead of just perssing ctrl, one the few games I follow just for the story as much I for sex ,TD you are the best
• No bugs!, nuff said.
• Each update has considerable content and the pace of updates is pretty fast for the amount of content it has.
• Unique& Attractive female characters, makes you wish they were real, even side-character females are created with as much detail as the main ones which also makes you wish they were also real as well.
• Awesome Animations! Gil you are the best
• Awesome side-kick for the MC, you will either really love him or really hate him, I really love him.
• MC has a moral compass and our decisions rotate it and it has consequences, which is not just releatic but very releatable.
• attention to minor details like when MC is sitting with carnations in a cafe we see the occasional passbyers and some cars in renders, the details in the exhibition hall etc.

Cons:

• I don't really see any cons but if I have to mention one it is the corruption in the game but TD & Gil did such a good job that I am growing fond of that aspect as well, so take it TD and GIL YOU made me love corruption.

I Strongly suggest everyone to give this game a go and I expect almost all of you to get hooked to it!

This game is part of the "must play" male dom experiences on F95. Top 10 all time in that regard. The writer really has the killer instinct necessary to make it work, and of course, the writing itself is astonishingly good. Combine that with some of the best HoneySelect artwork I've encountered to date, and you have a "don't think twice, just download" review.

This is the best 3dcg game I have ever played.
Lots of sex AND a good story. Somehow the romance with your best friends girlfriend is the best romance I have experienced in a porn game. It can be played with one-hand.

Initially, I wasn't too enthused by the setting of the game, but by the end of it I was won over. Even when we were still in chapter 1, as this was when I first discovered this gem, one could smell the quality and potential that set it apart from 99% of other games on this site.
This opinion only got reinforced with each successive update.

If I absolutely had to mention a negative, I'd be a few typos here and there. Though there are not overly many, mind you; it's just that nothing else really comes to mind, and I'd guess that most people wouldn't even be bothered by them.

With all said and done, even if the game doesn't seem like your cup of tea from the overview, give it a whirl: it'll probably be worth it.

The scenes, animations, and models are really good. Sexual tension is also really well done. Not a huge fan of exhibitionism or humiliation play, but to each his own I suppose. I really hope the creator keeps my favorite girls, Mina and Hana, out of the degenerate shit Felicity and the others are trapped in right now.

As for my favorite scene, the final Mina scene was hot AF. Eagerly waiting to see where that goes.

All in all, the creator definitely puts in work, and I would recommend the game.

Good stuff. Deals with some heavy themes. Wondering if his mother will feature in a different role down the line. Feels like Rosalind is just a substitute for his issues, in the end.

Bromance is nice too. You rarely see that in these kinda games.

I can't wait to see future updates for this game, honestly one of my favourites on this site so far. All girls are insanely hot and well written, and always love having to make a choice in these types of games

If you're into VN by Empress, particulary Starless, then you would absolutely love this.
The renders are amazing, character expression feels very alive (well except for some male model because it's the limitation of Honey Select)
This game is so good that I would even consider ask for a leave from work when an update drops (what kind of degenerate am I, asking for a leave to play a porn game...).

Story: Just Wow, it’s awesome! The characters are very different, and not everybody goes after MC's dick like nymphomaniacs XD

Originality: medium original but it’s extremely well-written

Renders: Very Good Graphic, it’s clear that the dev cares about this project. The male characters are pretty basic, but Honey Select doesn't offer much choice in that sector it's a common thing for every HS-based games.

Sound: It's standard, nothing to say, nothing to comment

Playability: It’s a VN made with Renpy, there is no real playability other than “Click around, see stuff”

Performance: It’s Renpy, it’s light, doesn’t eat your RAM, CPU and GPU, it’s okay ^_^

Bugs: didn't notice them

Animations: Extremely well-made, like the renders <3

Voice Acting: There isn't (and I don’t want it, because I may not like the actors/actresses)

Grammar: Very clear and understandable but also “detailed”

Amount of content: So much high-quality stuff <3 I love it!

Conclusion: Really Wow, there are very few games that I like so much as this one! *Chef Kiss*

Hands down this is in the Top 3 games I've played in this genre and it's continually making a strong case to be number 1.

No my friend who's reading thru the thread and reviews trying to decide if the hype is fake; the hype is real and absolutely deserved. The game looks great, the story is very well written, the characters all have three dimensional personalities and they all make you care about them in their own way; hell, this is one of the few games where it makes you actually like the male best friend.

The characters look great, the sex scenes are top notch; this game deserves all the praise and you should absolutely download it right now.

I just finish playing and took a slap in the face.

Everything is perfect.

I m in love with the different woman. They are all beautiful and different. They got their own credible story. The Mc friend is a douche bag but also a good friend.

I loved the first part with the questions about who you want to MC to be. It change a lot of things and i m sure you will try to replay with a different profile.

The story is interesting and the sex scenes (lots of them!) are excellent.

Try it, for me it's one of the best VN here.

Its probably the best game in the site, the story, the pace is perfect, the girls are awesome, its perfection, I just can't wait for more, every fetish that it touches is delivered perfectly too, I just couldn't ask for more

Thank you and keep it up <3

Solid story, good descriptions and good 3d models with interesting scenes. Worth a play through hopefully ending is going to turn out interesting. Also, interesting spread of characters that actually have characterization rather than generic lonely housewife or other stereotypes.

Finally got to rate what to me is the best Honey Select project at the moment. And that alone is a breath of fresh air since usually Honey Select is an indication of low effort shit.

Not the case with this one though. Despite using HS for its visuals, the game has had enough post-work on it done to make it look distinct. From the models to the UI, it's obvious this game manages to set itself apart from usual HS blandness. Only exception being the male MC, being the usual ugly twink you see from HS games. But that's a minor slight.

But its looks aren't even its strongest feature. It's the story.

There is a current climate these days in weg development that has neutered creativity in my opinion. There is a subset of very loud (and obnoxious) players who demand every game to conform to their very narrow tastes. And since the average player doesn't give a fuck about those sensitivities, that small subset ends up being the loudest, creating an atmosphere of dev bullying. This results in many games ending up exactly the same neutered product, one guy, a bunch of chicks, scenes only between these two. This of course extremely narrows the scope of stories.

How does this rant relate to this game? It's simple. This dev had a plan and didn't give a single shit about the initial screeching from that same subset of players. Dev went through with it and that's always one of the most important factors for a good game. This game doesn't care if your extreme sensitivities demand you only see a gazillion chicks spouting cringy romance lines to MC to stroke your self-insert. This game has female characters exposed, whored out and getting involved in all kinds of degenerate shit, not caring about your safe space. But it also has romance and meaningful interactions. It has actual, distinct characters, not an array of drones pretending to be different. It also has a protag, who's relatively capable but not a Gary Stu. And the corruption/moral change applies to him as much as the female cast which is also a sign of good writing.

What impresses me the most though, is how well it balances light-hearted moments with darker stuff. It goes back and fourth like that without feeling awkward and that's rare. It doesn't play it safe but that's part of its charm for me.

5/5

This is easily one of the best Honey Select based VN ever.

Highly recommended.

PROS:

The animations,graphics,story and dialogues are so meticulously well done that is very hard to say which is actually better.

All the potential "love interests" have an unique and dinamic personality and an interesting backstory.

The many choices you make actually shape your MC and change A LOT of the interactions and relationship with the other characters,even in a subtle way.

CONS:

If you don't like seeing your best girl get humiliated,tricked and ravaged by other men in every way imaginable this game is probably not for you.