VN - Ren'Py - Pale Carnations [Ch.4 Up.6 Public] [Mutt & Jeff]

  1. 5.00 star(s)

    comstock95

    Reviewed at Chapter 4 Update 6

    Probably one of the best adult VNs on this site. Great writing, great models and renders, great overall story setup and follow through. There's a decent amount of choice offered for different playthroughs, but often I felt like there wasn't enough choice within certain scenes. It varies.

    The story offers lewd content that's not often explored in other games, and can quite dark depending on your tastes. Some of it can be avoided with your choices, some can't. The game seems to tease incest content with the mom but never actually touches it directly.

    I'm not sure whether it's possible to create and maintain a full harem, I couldn't get the stats high enough for Veronica because I chose to spend time with other characters instead. I also don't know what types of endings there are, and I'm sorta worried the game will force me to pick a single GF. We'll see what happens, the VN isn't done yet.
  2. 5.00 star(s)

    Kryogeneva

    This writer is on a next level. Not sure who, maybe more than one person, but holy crap. Yeah, it can be a lot. Especially for later girls. But man. The models are over the top in that "yeah, a girl COULD have that body... with just a liiiiittle magic" way that Honey Select always hits the mark on. The kind our genes are 100% capable of but never quite fully hit (without 1 in a million luck or help).

    This is an extreme fantasy (and I refuse to entertain the "actual" extremes as realistic extremes of fetish and fantasy - that is beyond fantasy and comes from pure evil. If you know, you know), and if you want to know what sits at the bottom of men's hearts and desires, play this game. It'll open your eyes for sure. No distinct NTR against the MC, which might have been nice (I love the idea of swinging/netori, though netorare is often a bit much). There's soft
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    , maybe more later, I'm only just past having sex with
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    Unbelievably fappable. Busted like 50 nuts so far to this. Different dialogue choices give different and very fappable scenes. And you are (usually) not punished for playing how you want or believe it should be played. Gave the creators a top-tier sub today as a thank you. It's just that fucking good.
  3. 5.00 star(s)

    faker07

    Pale Carnations (4.6) is an excellent adult game. The sex scenes (what I consider the most important) are very good for the following reasons:
    • The characters are very attractive, even though the art style is not hyper-realistic.
    • The animations (motion) are very good, and the body physics makes them even better.
    • The character personalities are diverse, and the dialog does a good job of reinforcing that making the scenes more fun.
    • You have the option to avoid making big relationship decisions to foster a more harem type play through (at least as of this version).
    Another reviewer noted the similar large breasted physiques, and they are not wrong. As that is my preference, it's not a negative, but it could be for others looking for more body type range.

    The story, which is of secondary importance to me, is actually very interesting. I think it does a good job of setting the scene for your escapades and I find myself actually "caring" for certain characters.

    The writing can get a bit wordy, but you can't deny it's very well done.
  4. 5.00 star(s)

    Ummmh

    Best game on site. Hands down.

    Pale Carnations is a game that will absolutely keep inexorably drawing you back for the latest amazing and excellent updates, albeit with mixed emotions: utter joy at the potential within the insanely well-written creatively twisted sexy scenes and incredibly engaging character developments, but also (unless you completely lack conscience and empathy) with a sickening dread, a clawing fear in the pit of your stomach, towards the potential tragedy, heartbreaking loss, degredation, and shattering of all hopes leaving individuals resigned to their cruel fates, that is a dark cloud ever eagerly looming over the perpetually-at-risk characters.

    Pale Carnations is effectively an incredibly well-written slow train wreck that you simply CANNOT look away from. It brings to mind a meme from an excellent show that I will paraphrase here:
    ...
    "The letter 'H' in 'Pale Carnations' stands for happiness."
    ...
    Of course, there IS no letter 'H' in the name 'Pale Carnations', so there you go: bittersweetness rules the days and nights.

    It cannot be overstated how well-written this game is. This is absolutely professional level stuff. It is highly probable that the author has prior professional writing experience outside the H-game industry. Not only is the dialogue sparkling, creative, witty, and very much indicative of the literati, the characters are deeply engaging and sympathetic (except for the ones we are supposed to hate unconditionally, and even then there are some interesting aspects to their characters), the scenes are incredibly engrossing (and oft indicative of direct, real-world experience in many, many cases), and the management of all the various branching quests and inter-involved interactions of the various characters is something that no one new to writing would be able to keep straight in their heads, yet the author here seems to have no problem with it, at all, handling it masterfully at every turn.

    The artwork is also quite excellent. Honey Select is used as the base, tweaked quite successfully to work well within the context of the story. The heavy stylization of the Illusion system works well here, and the artist has managed to make character expression shine through, to the point where you can often get the gist of events and character responses and intents, even without having to read the dialogue (although the dialogue is, as abovenoted quite excellent). More, the girls are pretty much universally hot as all hell, as a result: a VERY welcomed feature.

    Again, you will absolutely love and look forward to the twisted and tantalizing tales that will arise within this game, but you will also likely feel fear at the potential negative outcomes of events, since you will almost certainly become personally attached to quite a few of the girls while ever knowing they are not inherently headed towards fun fates, especially given that quite a few of them walked themselves right into the situations they're in quite willingly.

    You can, in the short term, make a difference in what happens, but there are a great many machinations already in place behind the scenes working against the MC keeping safe the ones he may well come to love. Pretty much every girl in this game is heavily at risk, and the MC pretty much has to watch events unfold: although he can make definite changes here and there, these girls can all easily still head towards highly unpleasant fates, and both he and you may well come to be attached to those ladies, so it can be grueling, as you know you likely can do something to bring the ones you care about through safely, but are going to have to walk the razor's edge, and possibly risk it all, to do it.

    All told, an incredibly well-crafted work.

    5 stars, without any doubt.
  5. 5.00 star(s)

    radiantsolutions

    I don't usually leave reviews but this game is an exception. It is well written and delivered to perfection. The only small issue I have the the linear sandbox design. I wish we had freedom to move about places and talk to characters at our own pace and do some repeatable perhaps. Who know maybe that's in the pipelines already, one can only hope. But the game is 10 our of 10 as is, there are no questions about it. Thank you for this masterpiece!
  6. 5.00 star(s)

    Mooted

    One of my favourites and arguably top spot. Pale Carnations has a lot of great characters you’ll grow to love and also some you’ll despise. There is incredible depth with the story and gradually learning more about the female characters and their histories is nicely paced
  7. 5.00 star(s)

    ShiroGato

    The level of writing in Pale Carnations is superb, standing head and shoulders above the majority of the games in this genre. The setting of a high-end brothel that caters to the elite and wealthy is alluring. You, a tightly-wound pre-med student, are thrust into this world and forced to play assistant to a sadist boss. Herein lies one of the big appeals of the game-- it's a psychological dive into moral corruption.

    The cast of characters, from love interests to your best friend, and even yourself, the MC with a troubled past, are flawed people with their own desires, weaknesses, and motivations. This is not a world of black and white, but of varying shades of gray and how you interact with these characters provides for a different narrative experience. Even if you try to play morally white, there is temptation around the corner to seduce you down a darker path.

    After finishing my first playthrough, I immediately went back and started another just to see how different choice encounters/romantic entanglements played out. As someone who generally only tries to finish games in one playthrough, this is a testament to how captivating the story is. This choose-your-own-adventure branching narrative gives the player agency so it's less of an on-rails experience and it gives the game much replayability. While the story is still unfinished as of CH 04 UP 06, it easy to see how the seeds sown in the game up this point can lead to vastly different endings.

    The best examples of the AVN medium are story-centric first and PC is a well polished one at that. Despite all the praise about the writing, that's not to say the lewd content is lacking in any way. The renders and visuals are gorgeous, the animations are of high quality, and the scenes have the prose of well-written smut. There are some hot scenes in this game that are truly goated.

    Those who come into the game strictly to goon might be a bit disappointed by how much text there can be between h-scenes, but the wait is worth it and there is quite a variety of lewd. Some scenes can be romantic and wholesome, some raw and lustful, some have kinks, some have roleplay. For games with lower quality writing, I have often skipped through text just to get to the lewd, but that was not the case for Pale Carnations. The lead-up to these scenes whets the appetite before the main course.

    The biggest disappointment is that this game is unfinished, but that is just the selfish consumer in me starving for more content. I eagerly look forward to what the devs have in store for the future.
  8. 5.00 star(s)

    NOCHI

    I played this a while ago when it was just starting and i kinda liked it felt it had something going on..... played it again recently and wow.... the kinks, the girls, the choices are just mindblowing. This is a great game.
  9. 5.00 star(s)

    SovereignIX

    Pale Carnation - A Dark VN storytelling Masterclass.

    Rating: - 5 / 5
    Version played: Full release
    Genre: Dark VN, corruption, mystery heavy story focus.

    Pale Carnation is a game that should not be missed by anyone who happens and enjoys story-based visual novels featuring a dark, mature theme. It is not a fast fap game, it is literally a full-fledged visual novel that only has sex in it.

    Writing & Story - 5/5

    This writing is easily of top caliber in this site. Characters are real people who have their motives, secrets and weaknesses. It is a slow-burn story that is full of political intrigue, manipulation, and psychological tension.

    The MC is not a stereotypical good guy, he is morally grey.

    Side characters are not so shallow or one-dimensional.

    The witty, clever dialogue is very crisp and not very filler.

    Even in case you are one of those who actually reads and likes the plot, this makes it 5 stars alone.

    Art & Presentation - 5/5

    The painting is beautiful and uniform. The sprites, CGs and backgrounds of the character all belong to the high-end, decadent appearance.

    Lovely forms, passionate features.

    CG shots are elaborate and properly framed.

    UI is not cluttered and it does not stand in the way.

    It appears and plays like a professional VN, not an amateur Ren'py rudimentary attempt.

    Adult Content - 5/5 (with a warning)

    Erotica is of good quality, though it is also dark. It is not a vanilla romance game.

    Expect themes like:

    Manipulation

    Power imbalance

    Moral corruption

    In case that is your thing, the scenes are violent and they fit well into the narrative. This is not likely to be your cup of tea in case you are just after light-hearted and wholesome material.

    Atmosphere & Tone - 5/5

    The game drives a nail in the atmosphere of decadence, rot, and grace simultaneously. This mood is supported by everything, music, writing, and images. It is as though reading a dark novel in the midst of a corrupt upper-class setup where every one is hiding something.

    Replay Value - 4.5/5

    There are:

    Multiple routes and choices

    Learners have different approaches towards relationships.

    Sufficiently different to warrant more than a single playthrough.

    It is not a sandbox but as it is a story-heavy VN, it has a good replay value.
  10. 4.00 star(s)

    Kingwhoisnot

    Now this is a good game now it's only been a year and 4 months, and there is SO MUCH CONTENT, like 5 hours worth. And having good kinks so it isn't just a vanilla, I love where everything is going, the story is so interesting that I always want more, plenty of branching pathways too, so your choices actually matter. This game, although it has sub-par graphics, the animation and a lot of sex scenes make up for the fact. I cannot wait till more comes out of this game.
  11. 5.00 star(s)

    Hastmaldu

    A Masterpiece
    Play it yourself! Support the Dev (its worth the money)
    Nice Renders, Amazing H-Scenes, fantastic writing, good looking LI; all good qualities of Pale Carnations.
    But what makes it a masterpiece?
    The setting.
    The concept of an underground high-class sex club is explored with attention to detail, in all its beauty and ugliness.
    It sets the tone in which interesting stories develop, characters shine, romance gets explored, and Sex-Scenes can be enjoyed. And the quality of the execution of this setting really makes this game unique. Mutt and Jeff really created something which piques the interest of the Reader (or Player). There`s already a good amount of content, but many story threads are still open and the game gets continuously worked on so there's surely more good to come.

    A final bit of rambling:
    Play it at your own discretion, the setting is obviously not for everyone. It is perverse and can be twisted, but can also be surprisingly wholesome. Just be prepared for what it is. The again, this is F95zone and many H.Scenes could be described as extremely Vanilla.
    This time really the final bit of rambling:
    In recent updates, the Choices and Routes really branch out a lot. This can obviously be a good and a bad thing. It gives the player agency, but it also makes it really difficult to see all the game has to offer, especially when choices only make a difference much later. I recommend at least to look at a walktrough when playing. Personally I´d prefer a slimmer approach to branching Routes.
  12. 5.00 star(s)

    gmnbf

    I keep dropping and replaying this game several times in the past

    Either because I reached the final waiting for update, and forgot about the story and re-play it, or just have other games to play

    But honestly after playing it several times, this game is truly masterpiece

    The story is captivating, the character have "soul", they all soooo different with each other, and the MC is not full blown rapist, and the girl is not just throwing their body to MC every moment

    The character model is also gorgeous with interesting back story and pretty meaningful choices throughout the game

    OH also I love how smooth the animation loop is, and how the male cum looks good, not just white bland looking gooey liquid that usually on some other game (cant believe I giving review about male cum)
  13. 3.00 star(s)

    Dracodadark

    For me there is good and bad about this game. The main character who you can somewhat choose how you are is still a whole ball of ehh. If you are trying to be the white knight yes you can be for the most part less of a d bag than the alternative, but you are still very much a starved for attention, kind of pathetic mommy's boy, with a best friend who is at best is completely aloof to all human decency.

    This is still a pretty good game and its really close for me on being a 4, but mainly the main character makes it a solid three. The girls are where it becomes more interesting. You have one who is basically a woman a lot like your mother so its not surprising why the MC is into her. Outside of her I like most of the other love interests. You have the sweet and tough goth girl rocker who is surprisingly sweet and kind of throws you off with her initial attitude. The strong gym girl who is actually very fun to be around and has a great although guarded personality. My favorite is actually the wife of the rich guy. I find her personality very fun and outgoing, sassy with a hint of experience, and romantic all bottled into one. Mina your best buddies ex who he cheated on all the time with some ehh ladies. she is probably my second to least favorite only to the Mommy replacement option. She is this beautiful model/actress who is the most aloof, airhead, and enabler you could ever meet. She does have a freaky side and is possibly one of the few where you can have a three way relationship. Last is the boss lady who is well a completely twisted woman. I am sure she may have a soft side somewhere behind the big ball of nastiness and twistedness. She is unique and a strong woman living in a mans business is really the only woman in charge in the game.

    I do like the romantic aspects that you can build with the women who are quite interesting for the most part. The main problem for me is that the MC is all over the place and is ether a complete degenerate or and big ball of feel sorry for me and I am not good enough. Very hard to relate to.

    I like that this is one of the most obvious games for NTR that does not actually have NTR which I am thankful for as those games are not for me. I understand that people love them and I am not going to knock games for having them. I just move to the next one. This game is also not a harem game despite having some of the elements there. That is wonderful as its hard to find games on here where you have to pick one girl or 2 it seems with this one in some scenarios.

    It is a good game that is worth playing that has a unique albeit slightly twisted story. The main problem is the MC and to be fair most of the men in the game.
  14. 5.00 star(s)

    Abaddon.Pale

    Simply oustanding!!!

    Great Story and great visuals, especially for what I think is a Honey Select based graphic engine.

    The storytelling is outstanding.. The girls are all interesting and smoking hot.
    and there is a LOT of story.. took me two days to get to the current end... and I need to play though again as I think I missed a lot of content from the "Memories" tab.

    I have only 1 complaint.. ALL the girls have big boobs! I'm a small to medium breast man myself.

    other than that this story is simply one of the best i've seen. Love the concept.
  15. 4.00 star(s)

    Kuhuja

    Ch.4 Up.6 EA

    Story does balance well the anticipation for the future events and constantly giving interesting scenes. It has perfect setting for those craving for more perverted sex scenes.
    Great conversation system makes it fun trying to find perfect route. The system, with its complexity, mirrors reality really well. But the labyrinth of choices makes it really easy to find yourself in nonoptional route.

    Writing is superb. Characters are 90% relatable, but have that special 10% to make them larger than life. Writing does build characters with nice slow pace and also uses these well crafted characters really well in sex scenes. In later updates the good guy route does feel more natural in "lets all be friends" conversations.

    Visually game is ok. Camera angles are telling the story perfectly. Some sex scenes look good and with great writing, they are really fun to watch.
    But I personally dislike the cloned anime face/body that every woman has. Only difference is minor adjustments on body sliders and hair/clothes. Women just lack distinct structural visual traits and that does reduce their individuality. Fat cow tits MILF ≈ young perky teen, pretty much same body.
  16. 5.00 star(s)

    FlashofSilver

    Played C4U6 and loved it. Came for the hot ladies and sex scenes, stayed for some genuinely impressive characterisation.

    Author/creator understands in a way that very few adult games do that intimacy is more than purely physical, and puts that into action in the plot several times very effectively.

    The renders and technical foundations of the game are good or great, but quite a few games meet that kind of bar. Pale Carnations quite definitely deserves a standout 5/5 from me for shooting past it with some thoughtful and creative writing that enhances the sex brilliantly.
  17. 5.00 star(s)

    now loading

    First things first, this game is great.
    Been looking forward to every update and they´ve rly earned a good review.
    If you like the overview, you´d most likely love it. I was pretty sceptical, sounded too dark for my liking, but theres a suprising amount of more lovey dovey stuff inside this than you´d imagine from a dark, influencing brothel.
    The story is well done. Characters are great, i don´t like all of them, but that makes the story even more engaging. They all feel like ppl with goals and not everything they tell you might be true. Choices actually matter (way more than just the usual wanna see the scene or nah).
    The scenes are well done.
    Pacing is great, esp considering how big this game is getting.
    I worry a bit about connecting all the dots for all the routes, ofc that tends to pile up more and more work. But these guys delivered every damn time so far.
    Great job devs, in case you ever read this. This is incredibly good.
    Give it a try if you arent sure, the club will get it´s claws into you. It always does.
  18. 5.00 star(s)

    Jday

    Here we are again. New update and I once again find myself sitting with a dumb grin for hours staring at the screen of my old trusty tablet. I'm gonna be honest. I've played a LOT of games on this site. I've seen a lot of great renders and read a lot of great books, but this game... It is UNIQUE. I first tried it some years ago, and I remember not thinking much of it back then. I remember carelessly skimming through it, skipping some passages. On the next day I was back to my everyday life, barely remembering it. Like yeah, it had a solid starting point, clearly crafted with love and passion, etc... But man did it pick up over the years. With each consecutive update I would come back just to be surprised at how well it was done.

    You know how it is. When you expect something great from things, they rarely fulfill expectations. Not this game. Every new update was a rollercoaster of emotions. I don't think there was a single time I walked away disappointed. And this last one is absolute peak.

    I could write a lot of praise for this game. Like how characters actually feel like real people. How well writer understands human nature. How carefully crafted the maps are. How every animation feels unique and alive... But since devs actually read reviews I'll stop here. To the devs: don't get too full of yourselves. Please just keep working hard and let the success come to you.

    This is undoubtedly the best AVN ever created. This game is what would happen if Stanley Kubrick and Dostoyevsky decided to make porn. I just hope I will survive long enough to witness its completion.

    P.S. Yeah, English is not my first language if you haven't guessed, I hope I didn't sound like chatGPT.

    TLDR: just download this fucking game and pay the devs.
  19. 5.00 star(s)

    linkwith

    I will start where it should ends
    i think it's a matter of taste.

    I skipped the sadist parts, it was too much for me
    At the beginning of this journey i didnt care about them...
    Bul later i felt the suffering. or it was something else?
    I realy understand them now. (do i?)
    Very sad story that makes u feel something

    who are you?
  20. 2.00 star(s)

    MickNRorty

    There's something off with this game that just doesn't click on me. Could be the expressions of the characters, or how I just didn't feel any connection to the MC, or the way that the dialogue proceeds all the time with 3-2-1 dots. I just couldn't bring myself in playing it for more than an hour