niko82

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hello every ones,

finished maxing stats and stories with every girls, but still Tori is unfoundable, any idea what i have missed?

thanks
 

Evil13

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Double check to make sure you're talked to everyone. Even Eric and Rick. Then explore the various locations around the island. Tori should trigger when you got to the overlook above the beach near the ridge.
 

Samhill

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Double check to make sure you're talked to everyone. Even Eric and Rick. Then explore the various locations around the island. Tori should trigger when you got to the overlook above the beach near the ridge.
A story prompts you to go there. You need the story about the intruder. After that you get the Olga's story about the lizard stealing her bikini top.
 
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Droid Productions

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Randomly losing all your 'Coins'... bug?
If you edited them using the debug menu, no. The cash variable there is a hangover from Love of Magic (starting the game I cloned the LoM engine and went from there). Because Love of Magic doesn't have an inventory, Cash was just a variable and you could edit it. For Paradise Lust, because you have a full inventory, the Sex Chips exist as inventory items. It still exposes the Cash variable, because it's useful from a scripting point of view, but it's recalculated each time you gain, use or re-open the inventory, so setting it from the debug menu is a temporary thing.

GainItem=SexChip, 100

as a script command should work to give you permanent cash boosts.
 

hashcheckin

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I am pretty okay in either case. lol

Rick is a serious asshole, and deserves anything he gets in that regard, but Erik is the one trying to rule over us with some supposed power/authority that he thinks he has.
It's a funnier bit than I expected out of a porn game, that Erik is effectively unable to contemplate existence outside of capitalism. Sure, it's a parody, but it's the sort of parody that feels like reality's going to one-up it at some point in the next six months.

The way mc written feels very lame to me. All he does is run errands for girls and be "good listener" then once in a while he gets bootycalled when girls get horny. Main character himself shows zero assertiveness. I played for like ten hours and cant recall a single sexual encounter initiated by mc. Ive seen a fare share of sterile protagonists without an ego and desires of their own but this baffoon is among the worst offenders.
I had a shower thought about this. What you're complaining about is essentially the point of the MC's character arc. He's been drifting through life on autopilot, only making any real changes when his brother pressured him into it. Now he's being forced by the situation to finally make his own moves, and as a result, he's slowly building up his self-confidence.

It wouldn't be an unusual arc for a character in a movie or book, but now that you've mentioned it, there aren't a lot of other porn games with exactly this kind of character-vs-self conflict in their narrative.
 

Droid Productions

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It wouldn't be an unusual arc for a character in a movie or book, but now that you've mentioned it, there aren't a lot of other porn games with exactly this kind of character-vs-self conflict in their narrative.
I think that's probably exactly right. You can see the difference in writing very clearly between Love of Magic (which I write) and Paradise Lust (which Chase writes). Chase's been a designer and writer of normie games for a very long time (including a couple that you've likely played), but he's new to porn, and writes the central character as if he was a character in a normal video game, with a journey and character development arch leading forward.

We argued back and forth about this at the start of the project; I wanted the MC to be Rob (in an 80s "damnit, this was the trip that was finally going to get me back in black and get the banks off my back" grizzled, recently divorced, entrepreneur half a step ahead of the repo agent, with his loyal side-kick Cath next to him that had stuck with him through thick and thin, but had never allowed herself to become romantically engaged with him... until now). Chase's argument was that being the owner (even if the bank owns most of it) of a luxury Yacht was too much flex, and he wanted someone who started at the ground so he could build him up.

In the end, Chase's the writer on this, and I think the story he's writing works perfectly, but it's interesting that a lot of people who 'nope' out of it do so before the game really gets going, and their complaints are usually that Jack's not 'alpha' enough. There's also people who complain that Cath and Gabby kissing is NTR, which... lol.

Anyway, Jack's got a journey ahead, but it's one that takes him from a drifter that doesn't really know what to do with his life into someone that's doing quite okay.
 

bigboxbarry

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how do i unlock the swimwear. im at the point where all girls stories say wait for futher developments but the shop just shows swimwear as coming soon. so is it no implemented yet?
 

TheDevian

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I think that's probably exactly right. You can see the difference in writing very clearly between Love of Magic (which I write) and Paradise Lust (which Chase writes). Chase's been a designer and writer of normie games for a very long time (including a couple that you've likely played), but he's new to porn, and writes the central character as if he was a character in a normal video game, with a journey and character development arch leading forward.

We argued back and forth about this at the start of the project; I wanted the MC to be Rob (in an 80s "damnit, this was the trip that was finally going to get me back in black and get the banks off my back" grizzled, recently divorced, entrepreneur half a step ahead of the repo agent, with his loyal side-kick Cath next to him that had stuck with him through thick and thin, but had never allowed herself to become romantically engaged with him... until now). Chase's argument was that being the owner (even if the bank owns most of it) of a luxury Yacht was too much flex, and he wanted someone who started at the ground so he could build him up.

In the end, Chase's the writer on this, and I think the story he's writing works perfectly, but it's interesting that a lot of people who 'nope' out of it do so before the game really gets going, and their complaints are usually that Jack's not 'alpha' enough. There's also people who complain that Cath and Gabby kissing is NTR, which... lol.

Anyway, Jack's got a journey ahead, but it's one that takes him from a drifter that doesn't really know what to do with his life into someone that's doing quite okay.
While it is obvious that they are not written by the same person, I enjoy both quite a bit.
They both have things that they do better, LoM is more 'epic', while this is more down to earth (assuming we don't go full Lost with it), though I suppose I do favor this one slightly, due to my preference for 2D (and lack of time limits)...

These are some of those games that I play primarily for the story, anything after that is a bonus. Well done to you both, and the whole team.
 
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I had a shower thought about this. What you're complaining about is essentially the point of the MC's character arc. He's been drifting through life on autopilot, only making any real changes when his brother pressured him into it. Now he's being forced by the situation to finally make his own moves, and as a result, he's slowly building up his self-confidence.

It wouldn't be an unusual arc for a character in a movie or book, but now that you've mentioned it, there aren't a lot of other porn games with exactly this kind of character-vs-self conflict in their narrative.
I think thats a very one dimensional perspective on human beings and video game characters alike. Just because he is a drifter living his life on an autopilot it doesnt mean he has to be so passive in all his human interactions. I am a drifter like that too and a lot of people around me as well. That doesnt mean we are all followers who have to be leaded in every interaction.

I am closing in on 20 hours game time and apart from one superficial conversation where mc said that he will change his life once everyone gets rescued from the island nothing changed. It's still "Oh, you need me to run an errand? Right away maam." "Oh, you need me to be an emotional sponge and listen to stories of your hardships? Sure maam" "Oh, you are horny and want some dick? Yes maam." These 3 themes dominate vast majority of interactions between mc and other characters. You can change protagonist from a human being into a dog and the game will barely change as far as character dynamics go. He still will be able to fetch, comfort and give them some knob.

And I really wouldnt mind if in interactions with some women mc would be passive. After all contrast between characters and their dynamic with mc is great. But here dynamic between mc and all women apart from Raven and Karen feels very much the same, from everyday interactions to sex. I just played through 3 sex scenes with different characters and it felt like dialogue during them was just copypasted. "Tell me you love my pussy" "Tell me you love my ass" "Call me this" "Call me that". Mc has to be lead on by the leash in everything.

Well, I think I regret writing all of this. Because at the end of the day I realise that I am just not a part of target audience for this game. Its a game made by western people for western people. All those caricatures related to Erik and Karen are probably popular on social media in america. And mc feels lame to me because writter is probably one of those western people who considers male desire and ego to be very bad things I am half joking about this so dont take this sentence seriously. But oh well, this is a forum where people post their opinions so might as well post this.
 

hashcheckin

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I think thats a very one dimensional perspective on human beings and video game characters alike. Just because he is a drifter living his life on an autopilot it doesnt mean he has to be so passive in all his human interactions.
Maybe it does come down to whatever cultural boundary this involves, but I'd argue the MC feels significantly less one-dimensional (or more three-dimensional, whatever) than most of the horny idiots who populate the genre.

His passivity is also slowly wearing down over the course of the game, particularly with the most recent content, and it's entirely understandable that he's not inclined to make the first move on a lot of these women, under the circumstances. It sounds more like this is a particular character type that you just don't care for, and that's fine.
 
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