Others Patreon and incest advice.

[osanaiko]

Crypto for creators has it's own problems for me as a creator. The biggest benefit a platform like Patreon and Subscribestar have for me is that they take care of VAT. If I where to accept Paypal/Crypto or another form of direct donation I would be on the hook for paying VAT. I would need to know where the donation came from and pay VAT to that country. (And of course every country has it's own VAT percentage which I would need to know, keep on top of changes and look if for some reason I might be exempt from VAT in that country.) In short it is a B. And well I could ignore it of course but it is generally accepted to not fuck with the IRS no matter what country you are in.

I might not have explained myself very well: a platform that "works like" patreon (but is not shit) that does the pay-in and pay-out with crypto, and provides whatever services are necessary to help the creator meet their tax obligations - i.e. provides the data with percentage breakdown of country of payment origin * relevant VAT rate for each payout. Then it is up to the creator to input whatever crypto -> currecny conversion rate they acheive on their own payout. So at each reporting period, the data can be provided and the creator can pay the tax authorities out of their own responsibility.

 

[anne O'nymous]

Patreon proved the business model but have two big problems: one, they are based in the USA,

Like itch.io and SubscribeStar... The later is owned by a none US citizen, but entirely located in the USA, from the hosting to the postal box used as registered office, but the three depend on the Californian jurisdiction.

and two, they are big targets using stripe as their payment provider.

Like itch.io, that provide less variety in terms of payment processors.

They have zero room to push back against visa/mastercard moralization rules that are enforced by stripe.

It's not their location and size that is the problem, but the fact that the ban request was initially targeting prostitution. Starting the moment it's targeting real persons, you loose the possibility to negotiate. As a company, and commercial broker, you can't say that p*d*shit effectively have to be banned, and in the same times put limits to this ban.

 

[JL78-CoMiCs]

I'm using this thread to ask a simple question:
I'm publishing stories on Patreon. With each release, I publish a preview and a Mediafire link with the comic strips.
So, if I put incest in the Mediafire link, would Patreon notice?
Also, since the material is hosted elsewhere, could they say anything?

Thanks,

JL78

 

[anne O'nymous]

So, if I put incest in the Mediafire link, would Patreon notice?

Not necessarily, but it can be reported to them.

Also, since the material is hosted elsewhere, could they say anything?

Have you took the time to read the Terms of Service before registering to Patreon?
It is forbidden to fund content with incest, loli, bestiality and/or non consensual sex, through their service. Therefore, yes they can, and will, say something, right before banning you.

 

[JL78-CoMiCs]

It is forbidden to fund content with incest, loli, bestiality and/or non consensual sex, through their service. Therefore, yes they can, and will, say something, right before banning you.

Thank you for the reply.
I think I'll have to give up on incest, because I don't know of any platforms that allow it. The only one is Subscribestar Adult, but it has a system that's too complicated, especially for a European citizen.

JL78

 

[RoboPenguinGames]

Perhaps I’m writing on a slightly different topic, but I saw at least something similar here.
I need help in the form of a consultation. Those who faced a ban on Patreon - did you manage to return to it after that? How did you act?
I really hope that someone will respond and share similar topics or examples that have happened here on the forum...

The reason for my ban was not incest, but the words in the project description “contact without consent.” At least I think so because Patreon didn't give me any clear comments. I just pointed out that the problem was in the description.

 

[osanaiko]

Perhaps I’m writing on a slightly different topic, but I saw at least something similar here.
I need help in the form of a consultation. Those who faced a ban on Patreon - did you manage to return to it after that? How did you act?
I really hope that someone will respond and share similar topics or examples that have happened here on the forum...

The reason for my ban was not incest, but the words in the project description “contact without consent.” At least I think so because Patreon didn't give me any clear comments. I just pointed out that the problem was in the description.

You'd be better off asking the question in the SuperSecretDevelopers subforum, that's where the devs talk about such secret business.