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gortfrey

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If someone is so incompetent that they can't find it ANYWHERE on the ENTIRE internet, then allowing someone that incompetent to get illegal content here would be even more dangerous than it would be by allowing it in the first place.
All content on here is illegal though. What are you talking about?
 

Count Morado

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All content on here is illegal though. What are you talking about?
It's obvious in the context and to the post he is replying what he is referring to. Your comment is more pedantic than it should be. And this comes from me, Pedantry-R-Us.

Case in point of my pedantry:
And, no, not all the content on here is "illegal." There are quite a few developers, artists, and coders who provide their own content (games, comics, etc) to this site for free download.
 

Hagatagar

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It's kind of surprising since the game is on Steam. Like, does this website really have more restrictive rules than Steam of all things? Like, you just said that linking the game from another site breaks the rules...I can't imagine that linking Steam would result in administrative action?? So, why such a double standard?
The version on Steam has no porn in it, or at least no lolis. You have to download it from an external source.
So basically they don't sell a loli game.

Yes, F95zone could do the same and just offering the cut-down version, but then every fourth post would be a link to the loli-patch, which would be agains the rules.

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And mods would have to delete and clean the thread all the time and people would create countless threads complaining about mod-actions because they can't read the rules themselfs.
 

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The version on Steam has no porn in it, or at least no lolis. You have to download it from an external source.
So basically they don't sell a loli game.

Yes, F95zone could do the same and just offering the cut-down version, but then every fourth post would be a link to the loli-patch, which would be agains the rules.

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And mods would have to delete and clean the thread all the time and people would create countless threads complaining about mod-actions because they can't read the rules themselfs.
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Just kidding
 

DoctorYasu

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If someone is so incompetent that they can't find it ANYWHERE on the ENTIRE internet, then allowing someone that incompetent to get illegal content here would be even more dangerous than it would be by allowing it in the first place.
Or maybe they have one or two sytes of reference, game isn't there and they have money to spend, so why waste your time looking further? Guess there're people like that too.

I had to go to /vg/ to find it, mind you.

But yeah I don't get it, in a community where sharing is number 1.
 

morphnet

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But yeah I don't get it, in a community where sharing is number 1.
That's not true though, sharing is NOT number 1. Keeping the community and the site SAFE and SAFELY sharing are ALL priorities.

You'll notice there are a number of different rules in place for that exact reason not just rule 7.
 
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The version on Steam has no porn in it, or at least no lolis. You have to download it from an external source.
So basically they don't sell a loli game.

Yes, F95zone could do the same and just offering the cut-down version, but then every fourth post would be a link to the loli-patch, which would be agains the rules.

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And mods would have to delete and clean the thread all the time and people would create countless threads complaining about mod-actions because they can't read the rules themselfs.
Very interesting. Admittedly I only commented here bc I saw it advertised on Steam and I come here first for reviews, screenies, etc. It's not uncommon for this place not to have every game ever, but when I saw a recent discussion thread I thought I'd chime in. I usually just lurk but it confused me to see that the game used to be here but was no longer accessible. It's nabd and I appreciate the additional insight. Kind of a shame to have to look elsewhere but it's fine~
 

glyndas

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We have games that go unnoticed for a while, even years before its brought to our attention. As we cannot check every game and sometimes the preview images do not show banned content. This is just an example of one going unnoticed until it was reported.
This game was nuked on this site somewhere in 2022/23. Translation/discussion threads were allowed as long as no direct links were posted and if posted we were asked to report individuals to keep the game out - any reports were to ban ppl posting links. Now we are in 2025 the year when you ban every discussion and translation posts (it looks that way) if the game brakes rule 7 "in case if someone post link to a banned game". That translation page were allowed by moderators back then - it was not unnoticed. What i try to say if the rules changed in 2025 just change the phrasing to "any mention or any discussion/translation threads of a banned rule 7 thread is not allowed" or something. It is insane that in some broke rule 7 games discussion is allowed, in some now it is not, some translation threads are okay, but some now it is not etc. We as the users deserve more clarification in my opinion.
 

morphnet

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What i try to say if the rules changed in 2025 just change the phrasing to "any mention or any discussion/translation threads of a banned rule 7 thread is not allowed" or something.
Haven't changed for that part.

https://f95zone.to/threads/general-rules-updated-2025-01-29.5589/

7. Content (a game, image, video, story, animation, etc.) depicting nudity, sexualization or sexual/erotic activity involving prepubescent character(s) is prohibited. A "prepubescent character" is one that visually shows no sign of puberty, or if non-visual is otherwise clearly intended to represent a prepubescent character. 2D and 'unrealistic' depictions are generally looked upon more favorably. As this involves some discretion, if you are unsure ask a Staff Member.
  1. This includes translations, bug fixes, etc for banned content.
 

glyndas

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Haven't changed for that part.

https://f95zone.to/threads/general-rules-updated-2025-01-29.5589/

7. Content (a game, image, video, story, animation, etc.) depicting nudity, sexualization or sexual/erotic activity involving prepubescent character(s) is prohibited. A "prepubescent character" is one that visually shows no sign of puberty, or if non-visual is otherwise clearly intended to represent a prepubescent character. 2D and 'unrealistic' depictions are generally looked upon more favorably. As this involves some discretion, if you are unsure ask a Staff Member.
  1. This includes translations, bug fixes, etc for banned content.
Thats why all discussion threads (no pics links etc.) were also nuked if they were focused about this game? Typing words cannot be called 'content' by any means... Eh anyway.
 
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morphnet

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Thats why all discussion threads (no pics links etc.) were also nuked if they were focused about this game? Typing words cannot be called 'content' by any means... Eh anyway.
That is my bad, I should have posted both links at the same time sorry.

To cover the translations side, you have general rules.

https://f95zone.to/threads/general-rules-updated-2025-01-29.5589/

7. Content (a game, image, video, story, animation, etc.) depicting nudity, sexualization or sexual/erotic activity involving prepubescent character(s) is prohibited. A "prepubescent character" is one that visually shows no sign of puberty, or if non-visual is otherwise clearly intended to represent a prepubescent character. 2D and 'unrealistic' depictions are generally looked upon more favorably. As this involves some discretion, if you are unsure ask a Staff Member.
  1. This includes translations, bug fixes, etc for banned content.
To cover the discussion side,

Any game discussion not about the game itself is off-topic which is why there are so many game threads there. i.e.

https://f95zone.to/threads/a-wife-and-mother-offtopic-discussion.111628/post-16432150

and the rules there cover discussion

https://f95zone.to/threads/rules-for-this-subforum-updated-2022-07-10.18276/

1. Sexual content featuring minors / Rule 7 (this includes discussing/linking banned content)

So both are covered by the rules.

Sorry again for the mix up and hope this helps explain things better.
 

glyndas

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That is my bad, I should have posted both links at the same time sorry.

To cover the translations side, you have general rules.

https://f95zone.to/threads/general-rules-updated-2025-01-29.5589/

7. Content (a game, image, video, story, animation, etc.) depicting nudity, sexualization or sexual/erotic activity involving prepubescent character(s) is prohibited. A "prepubescent character" is one that visually shows no sign of puberty, or if non-visual is otherwise clearly intended to represent a prepubescent character. 2D and 'unrealistic' depictions are generally looked upon more favorably. As this involves some discretion, if you are unsure ask a Staff Member.
  1. This includes translations, bug fixes, etc for banned content.
To cover the discussion side,

Any game discussion not about the game itself is off-topic which is why there are so many game threads there. i.e.

https://f95zone.to/threads/a-wife-and-mother-offtopic-discussion.111628/post-16432150

and the rules there cover discussion

https://f95zone.to/threads/rules-for-this-subforum-updated-2022-07-10.18276/

1. Sexual content featuring minors / Rule 7 (this includes discussing/linking banned content)

So both are covered by the rules.

Sorry again for the mix up and hope this helps explain things better.
Okay so now i should discuss "shota" tag then cause it looks like a double standard for me.
Shota: "Shota refers to a young boy, typically between 5 and 13 years old, often depicted in Japanese anime and manga as cute, short, and innocent." If I understand correctly the difference between loli and shota is: loli most of times are adult woman just looking young (not all of games are like that I know) and the other one is just underaged kid most of times. It took me around a minute to find a game thread that at least looks suspicious, but no mention of rule 7 exist there:
https://f95zone.to/threads/a-lose-hero-in-the-castle-of-the-succubi-final-dieselmine.97400/
That boy looks like ~8 years old and from overview and gifs it looks like he is engaging in sexual acts.
I'm not salty or anything, I am just curious about the rules; the law we all should obey on this forum.
Is shota okay then?
 

morphnet

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Okay so now i should discuss "shota" tag then cause it looks like a double standard for me.
Shota: "Shota refers to a young boy, typically between 5 and 13 years old, often depicted in Japanese anime and manga as cute, short, and innocent." If I understand correctly the difference between loli and shota is: loli most of times are adult woman just looking young (not all of games are like that I know) and the other one is just underaged kid most of times.
That is not really accurate, most loli and shota are represented as young but the only definitions that count for content on this site are the ones this site uses.

https://f95zone.to/threads/tags-rules-and-list-updated-2024-11-14.10394/

Loli [Girls with undeveloped bodies in sexual situations. Read rule 7.]
Shota [Boys with undeveloped bodies in sexual situations. Read rule 7.]

It took me around a minute to find a game thread that at least looks suspicious, but no mention of rule 7 exist there:
https://f95zone.to/threads/a-lose-hero-in-the-castle-of-the-succubi-final-dieselmine.97400/
That boy looks like ~8 years old and from overview and gifs it looks like he is engaging in sexual acts.
I'm not salty or anything, I am just curious about the rules; the law we all should obey on this forum.
Is shota okay then?
ANY prepubescent characters depicted as rule 7 describes are not allowed, that goes for loli and shota.

https://f95zone.to/threads/general-rules-updated-2025-01-29.5589/

7. Content (a game, image, video, story, animation, etc.) depicting nudity, sexualization or sexual/erotic activity involving prepubescent character(s) is prohibited. A "prepubescent character" is one that visually shows no sign of puberty, or if non-visual is otherwise clearly intended to represent a prepubescent character. 2D and 'unrealistic' depictions are generally looked upon more favorably. As this involves some discretion, if you are unsure ask a Staff Member.
  1. This includes translations, bug fixes, etc for banned content.
If you see a game that you think is breaking the rules you should report it but it is important to remember what the rules say, that 2d and unrealistic depictions are generally looked at more favorably.

The same rules apply to both when it comes to content, including translations and discussions.

hope this helps clear things up.
 

glyndas

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Let it be. It's stupid, it makes no sense, but it's their website so it is what it is. We have 4ch to talk more openly about these games.
I just tried to understand the rules we need to oblige. By the shota definition that google and other search engines hits you "shota is boy aged 5 to 13" and loli is "young looking girl/woman" but also sometimes "underaged looking girl", yet the term nuked most in general but also on this site is "loli" but not "shota". This is not logical, that's why i was asking that questions.
Loli [Girls with undeveloped bodies in sexual situations. Read rule 7.]
Shota [Boys with undeveloped bodies in sexual situations. Read rule 7.]
By that rule and general meaning of shota - all/most shota games should be illegal. But I guess there is something hidden in a meaning that I am missing.

Our house, our rules.
Maybe this is what I am missing, by logic it looks that way.
 

morphnet

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By that rule and general meaning of shota - all/most shota games should be illegal. But I guess there is something hidden in a meaning that I am missing.
Again not quite accurate but close as you can see by the games on the site.

There are 783 loli games currently on the site.

https://f95zone.to/sam/latest_alpha/#/cat=games/page=1/tags=639

and only 436 shota games on the site

https://f95zone.to/sam/latest_alpha/#/cat=games/page=1/tags=749

Now while some of this could be attributed to less requests for shota, not all of it can be.

Maybe this is what I am missing, by logic it looks that way.
Also just to expand on what he said, hosting any porn content comes with certain risks but especially so for linking loli / shota content. Those bearing the majority of the risk are the staff and mods of the site, so it's up to them to decide how much of a risk they are willing to take.

They are also walking the fine line between allowing content some groups of members are looking for AND keeping the community as a whole and the site safe. That makes the job of choosing difficult and that job gets made A LOT harder when some members (not directed at you) refuse to understand this and make threads hurling abuse at them.

Members need to stop, think and realize that IF the site gets shut down,

those that shut it down are NOT going to take action against the 8 and a half million members that visit the site,
they are NOT going to take action against the MUCH smaller group that browsed the loli / shota games,
they are GOING to take action against those running the site.

So every time a member calls the mods bias or accuses them of having double standards they are completely ignoring the lengths they staff and mods went to so that just some of the content could be here.

In the future it would be great if members could stop focusing on what is not here and focus more on what is and understand what it took to allow it here.

Just to explain, this reply is to hopefully explain in more detail for you but is also aimed at anyone who might read this thread in the future.

I hope this helps clear things up a bit more for you.
 

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But I guess there is something hidden in a meaning that I am missing.
Can that thing hidden be the word "prepubescent"?
It's obviously easy to discriminate prepubescent from others, since they'll starts to grow boobs when hitting puberty. But for boys, the difference will be in the size of their dick, that is generally oversized anyway.

Yet, this doesn't mean that all shota games can pass through that loophole. RetsymTheNam (aka MysterTheMan) games all rely on shota MCs and are also forbidden here due to this. It's just that it's easier to catch a game with prepubescent girl characters, than games with boy prepubescent ones.