Perplexing Hentai-Artist Trend

[JJZ-Godd]

There's this rather fascinating trend I've seen with a good amount of Hentai Artists. Essentially, the artists who started off with vanilla works that didn't or have yet to retire gradually start making darker and NTR works until eventually, that is all they exclusive do. Takeda Hitomitsu, Sanagi Torajirou and Fuetakishi are the first to come to mind. All three started with vanilla and fairly tame stories, but as time passed, almost all the work they publish today contains NTR. Yet, the artists who have been making exclusively dark material since the beginning, rarely diverge. Case in point, Bitch Bokujou, Mosquito Man, and Xration/ Mil.

I'm just curious why this trend exists. It might have to do with creative burnout/ boredom, but please provide whatever insight you can.

And again, this is not meant to insult or berate those who like these particular genres. This is meant to provide a platform of discussion about hentai.

 

[Dicks McKenzie]

I've noticed the trend too, friend. I don't think it comes from creative burnout, but rather it comes from NTR being the hot fetish at the moment. We saw this a few years back except instead of NTR it was elves and before that it was straight shota. It's a dang shame too, because when the artists/publishers chase these trends we end up with a lot of lame/predictable works.

Give it a couple of years and a lot of these blossoming NTR artists will move onto the next thing. (Maybe not Sanagi Torajirou, he's quite a staple in the NTR stable now)

 

[JJZ-Godd]

Yeah, there has been a huge boom in NTR content in general recently (much to my personal chagrin kek). Calling it now, the next big fetish/ genre will be Turtle-girls.

Although on a more serious note, the only artists I've seen who've been mostly consistent with their genre and fetishes throughout their career are Rebis, and Chiba Toshirou. Rebis has always been a fan of muscular, big-bootied, dark skin girls, especifally futa (although recently they seem to be branching into the harem market). And Chiba has always been about that vanilla-esque shota x mature/ bigger woman where the woman typically takes the lead. Fun little fact about Chiba, he tried to write and draw a darker scene involving gangbang, rape, gore, and corruption, but then retconned it by saying the previous chapters was a manga made by the "true" characters of the story. Which then proceeded with typical Chiba stuff. (source:

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[DarthSeduction]

As a writer myself, there's something about NTR that makes it interesting to write. It gives us the opportunity to write something that is more heavily focused on a plot than most porn does. With NTR you have clearly defined conflict, and what's more, you also get to do something that most traditional storytelling doesn't let you... The villain gets to win. So I would say that there's an addition to the fact that NTR has become popularized in culture, in that the genre is alluring to writers on a more primal level.

Understand, personally I'm a sadist, so cuckoldry, as a fetish, is not something I'm into. So I'm not defending NTR because it's a fetish I really enjoy, because I only enjoy very specific types of it, wherein you don't empathize with the story's cuck. But as a writer, it is, nevertheless, an interesting thing to write. I'm not the only one who has said this, either. In conversations I've had with the writer for babysitter he's expressed similar feelings. Also not a fan of NTR himself, he finds the challenge of writing the romantic rivalry more engaging and overall rewarding than he does the normal sexual content.

So yeah, NTR is more popular with the fans, and it's pretty tempting to write just in general, so more people are doing it.

 

[JJZ-Godd]

You do bring up an excellent point of how, from a story perspective, NTR provides an interesting conflict for the character and audience to experience. Many well-beloved stories have interesting conflicts and satisfactory resolutions to said conflict; a hero is only as good as their villain so to speak.

But the problem I see with NTR (Again from a story perspective) is its lack of that satisfactory resolution. All it does is present a conflict: ie MC's partner is having sex with someone else, whether unwillingly or not, then gradually begins to like it over time. But that's it. No resolution occurs, the conflict continues perpetually.

As for the satisfactory part, it falls short as well. Even with stories where the villain wins, the writers generally provide perspective to the villains' motivations and reasoning so that we as the audience can come to understand and at times respect the villains' intentions (best examples I can think of are Infinity War and The Godfather). So while the conflict isn't resolved in the initially intended manner, the final resolution still feels satisfactory and understandable.

Netorare specifically provides no such perspective. Most of the time NTR antagonists are old/ugly/ dark skin men who's only personality trait is either being an asshole, a misogynist, or an extreme pervert. We as the audience are never given any motivation beyond "the antagonists just wants to have sex with MC's partner and they don't care how they'll accomplish that goal". So when that goal is eventually met, it doesn't necessarily feel like anything has been accomplished.

 

[Dicks McKenzie]

I more or less agree with you, but I think the problems that NTR faces (in manga form) is that it's limited by the medium.

In an average magazine publication your work has to be ~16-20 pages long (and about 5-7 of those are the sex scene) so there's not exactly a lot of room for creative writing, nuanced characters or satisfying conclusions. As such, they're usually just quick scenarios filled with the traditional NTR tropes we all know and love.

It's in the NTR tanks that you can see more interesting stories come to light. One example I think you might enjoy is Midori no Rupe's "Imako System" that has a nice structure, pace and a relatively satisfying conclusion to its NTR storyline.

In regards to getting the villain fleshed out, it's certainly rare (presumably because a more likable/understandable villain makes for less upsetting cuckoldry) but I recall it was done a couple of times by Yuzuki N'.

 

[DarthSeduction]

You do bring up an excellent point of how, from a story perspective, NTR provides an interesting conflict for the character and audience to experience. Many well-beloved stories have interesting conflicts and satisfactory resolutions to said conflict; a hero is only as good as their villain so to speak.

But the problem I see with NTR (Again from a story perspective) is its lack of that satisfactory resolution. All it does is present a conflict: ie MC's partner is having sex with someone else, whether unwillingly or not, then gradually begins to like it over time. But that's it. No resolution occurs, the conflict continues perpetually.

As for the satisfactory part, it falls short as well. Even with stories where the villain wins, the writers generally provide perspective to the villains' motivations and reasoning so that we as the audience can come to understand and at times respect the villains' intentions (best examples I can think of are Infinity War and The Godfather). So while the conflict isn't resolved in the initially intended manner, the final resolution still feels satisfactory and understandable.

Netorare specifically provides no such perspective. Most of the time NTR antagonists are old/ugly/ dark skin men who's only personality trait is either being an asshole, a misogynist, or an extreme pervert. We as the audience are never given any motivation beyond "the antagonists just wants to have sex with MC's partner and they don't care how they'll accomplish that goal". So when that goal is eventually met, it doesn't necessarily feel like anything has been accomplished.

See, I actually read a lot of NTR, couple problems here. Usually the MC isn't the male character. You might get a flash of his perspective in the beginning, but the vehicle, in my experience, for the plot is usually the girl being stolen. You are supposed to feel for the guy, don't get me wrong, because without him it's just corruption, not NTR, but usually the plot revolves around her and her eventual betrayal.

As to whether or not the "bad guy" is sympathetic I think depends on the method for NTR more often than anything else. If the Netori is drugging, blackmailing, coercing, or otherwise raping the female character chances are we don't find him sympathetic. That doesn't mean we don't explore his psyche however. There are some that I quite liked where the guy very clearly gets off on the domination, specifically, of women in relationships, and sometimes, of exposing that domination. Those villains may not be sympathetic, but they're understandable, and I don't think that it makes them someone that I have to hate.

As for the whole ugly bastard issue, that's sort of a kink in and of itself. Some guys like to see a girl who is so compelled by her lust that it doesn't mater how distasteful the guy giving her what she needs is. Myself included in this, it's why I like Consentacles (tentacles but not rape) and some forms of bestiality. The depravity and humiliation of it get my inner sadist feeling all giddy. And that is usually the point of that type of NTR, it's catering to the sadists, not just the masochists.