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SINtax EroRR

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Just imagining going to sleep with the Lazural and waking up next to her only to be face to face with one of the angry faces on the side of her head is both incredibly amusing and terrifying at the same time.
Could be grounds for a doujin lmao.
 

imadecoy123

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I personally enjoy the game. The very idea of an adult based Pokemon game has always been what I wanted. I also enjoy the new pokemon along side with new variants of older ones.
P.S. The idea of Coma being a move is just bonkers, and it adds insult to injury if it puts them too sleep. I love it. :KEK:
 

DBAV

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Regarding the difficulty, have you though about eliminating pokeballs and making you use only given pokemon? I think most players are going to use the waifu team and I don't see any reason to complete the pokedex here so catching pokemon might not be needed here.
 

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Regarding the difficulty, have you though about eliminating pokeballs and making you use only given pokemon? I think most players are going to use the waifu team and I don't see any reason to complete the pokedex here so catching pokemon might not be needed here.
Oh sure, let's go against non-retarded genre savvy vanilla Elite 4 with only Waifumons. What can be wrong?

This game is pokemon game FIRST, and eroge second. Why eliminate the 95% of the content for the 5%?
 

DBAV

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Oh sure, let's go against non-retarded genre savvy vanilla Elite 4 with only Waifumons. What can be wrong?

This game is pokemon game FIRST, and eroge second. Why eliminate the 95% of the content for the 5%?
You only need the starter and a coverage pokemon for everything I've seen in this game, getting mythical or legendaries and strong pokemon in the wild is mostly overkill, this is harder than vanilla but easier than most other non ero hacks.
Making it so that you can only play with received pokemon and waifus would limit you and force new strategies, also if you make all the received pokemon humanoid or at least sexualized pokemons (by the doujin comunity) you can explain it with the "You're not here to complete the pokedex and be the champion but to learn how can we procreate with pokemon" which is exactly what you have been hired to do.
 

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You only need the starter and a coverage pokemon for everything I've seen in this game, getting mythical or legendaries and strong pokemon in the wild is mostly overkill, this is harder than vanilla but easier than most other non ero hacks.
Making it so that you can only play with received pokemon and waifus would limit you and force new strategies, also if you make all the received pokemon humanoid or at least sexualized pokemons (by the doujin comunity) you can explain it with the "You're not here to complete the pokedex and be the champion but to learn how can we procreate with pokemon" which is exactly what you have been hired to do.
Then sure, you're welcomed to do it your way. Nobody prevents you doing that.
But why force your way for others who wanted to play their way?
 
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Then sure, you're welcomed to do it your way. Nobody prevents you doing that.
But why force your way for others who wanted to play their way?
It's mildly jarring how the MC catches pokemon and fights gyms like a 10 years old (by that world logic) with normal pokemon when he's been hired to investigate the possibility of procreating with pokemon, if the dev if willing to go all the way and implement a complete pokedex I can't say a thing but if he's willing to accept my suggestion it could save him a lot of time.
Are you really having trouble with this game? The starter is op as fuck and the other waifus aren't weak either.
 

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It's mildly jarring how the MC catches pokemon and fights gyms like a 10 years old (by that world logic) with normal pokemon when he's been hired to investigate the possibility of procreating with pokemon, if the dev if willing to go all the way and implement a complete pokedex I can't say a thing but if he's willing to accept my suggestion it could save him a lot of time.
Are you really having trouble with this game? The starter is op as fuck and the other waifus aren't weak either.
Your suggestion stank of high ego. There's no 'OP as Fuck' pokemon, ever; every pokemon has their own hard counter.
Even if you can curbstomp everything in the game right now there's no promise future content will be this 'easy'. A simple strat of something using Baton Pass after putting Agility and Substitute and using Magnitude will probably kill the starter. Gardevoir can be easily dispatched with a Sucker Punch if you know she's probably gonna do Coma, and Insomniac or Chesto berry will prevent that long enough to defeat her. Lopunny is easy picking with a Ghost/Poison type as long as she didn't learn any elemental punches. Viruark is weak against Ground, start with non-attack moves such as Screech or Confuse Ray will prevent the poison counter; using a poison-type pokemon such as Muk will basically invalidate half of her moveset.

Everyone who played competitive pokemon will know if you're using a particular pokemon, you are limited to the moveset and abilities available to that pokemon. That's why you use egg moves, TMs, and Hidden Abilities: so you can outsmart your opponents and defeat them. Proudly announcing "I'll only use Waifumons!" is just like saying 'hey I'm a retard looking to get hard countered!'
 
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SINtax EroRR

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Regarding the difficulty, have you though about eliminating pokeballs and making you use only given pokemon? I think most players are going to use the waifu team and I don't see any reason to complete the pokedex here so catching pokemon might not be needed here.
You're only looking at it from the perspective of the current version. It gets harder. Much. Harder. And I will say that relying only on waifumon, as powerful as they are, to be poor decision-making. This will be especially true in the later sections of the game where Gym leaders and trainers have certain gimmicks that require you to swap around and think of strats in order to win.

And no, you're not hired to only procreate with Pokemon. I know not everyone pays attention to the plot but uh, that's an understatement. Also, you're not 'challenging gyms like a 10-year old', you're testing boundaries and taking your assigned pokemon on a journey, and travelling the region and challenging the gyms is the most linear way to do that. If your complaint was that you dont want to be compelled to challenge gyms, well you just have to live with that I suppose. After all, most human waifus in this game ARE Gym leaders and beating them is the first step to getting their respect and acknowledgement.

In other words, no. I will not be deleting the function of pokeballs and pokemon, because that is foolishly restrictive. Also, most of my time isn't spent on game mechanics, its in writing, creating events, testing them again and again, designing mutated waifumons, creating CGs, creating Art assets, and essentially everything that has nothing to do with Game mechanics.

EDIT: Another thing I forgot to mention; All waifumons are optional. Aside from Gardevoir who is offered to you on a silver platter, every other waifumon are rewards to the player for EXPLORING. If you don't check every nook and cranny, you dont get the waifumons. If I disable the ability to catch mons for variety and team coverage as well as niche strategies, you'll be painfully restricted with no alternatives if I were to present new enemies that counter the most commonly used Waifumon.

So yeah, removing the ability to catch Pokemon, in a Pokemon game, is poor design.
 

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So there's a small bug, nothing gamebreaking, but if i hit F12 to reset the game i get this error message, "Script 'Trainer' line4: TypeError occured. Trainer is not a class. 367:Textbook:16: previous definition of Trainer was here."
The fuck? What was the situation when you pressed f12?
 

DBAV

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Your suggestion stank of high ego. There's no 'OP as Fuck' pokemon, ever; every pokemon has their own hard counter.
Even if you can curbstomp everything in the game right now there's no promise future content will be this 'easy'. A simple strat of something using Baton Pass after putting Agility and Substitute and using Magnitude will probably kill the starter. Gardevoir can be easily dispatched with a Sucker Punch if you know she's probably gonna do Coma, and Insomniac or Chesto berry will prevent that long enough to defeat her. Lopunny is easy picking with a Ghost/Poison type as long as she didn't learn any elemental punches. Viruark is weak against Ground, start with non-attack moves such as Screech or Confuse Ray will prevent the poison counter; using a poison-type pokemon such as Muk will basically invalidate half of her moveset.

Everyone who played competitive pokemon will know if you're using a particular pokemon, you are limited to the moveset and abilities available to that pokemon. That's why you use egg moves, TMs, and Hidden Abilities: so you can outsmart your opponents and defeat them. Proudly announcing "I'll only use Waifumons!" is just like saying 'hey I'm a retard looking to get hard countered!'
You are talking about human adversaries, we are playing against AI so unless they can read what move you are about to use AI are pretty limited in their actions, but anyways the dev has spoken and we will have pokemon catching.
And no, you're not hired to only procreate with Pokemon. I know not everyone pays attention to the plot but uh, that's an understatement. Also, you're not 'challenging gyms like a 10-year old', you're testing boundaries and taking your assigned pokemon on a journey, and travelling the region and challenging the gyms is the most linear way to do that. If your complaint was that you dont want to be compelled to challenge gyms, well you just have to live with that I suppose. After all, most human waifus in this game ARE Gym leaders and beating them is the first step to getting their respect and acknowledgement.
I know you are not hired only to procreate with pokemon, but you are hired to test Allerita and the Professor also mentions that you can use the gyms and the elite four as a medium to test her possibilities so I'm not against there being an elite four and gyms, but the idea of using non fuckable pokemon to beat the game goes a bit against your job, but if you want to do it go ahead.
 

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I know you are not hired only to procreate with pokemon, but you are hired to test Allerita and the Professor also mentions that you can use the gyms and the elite four as a medium to test her possibilities so I'm not against there being an elite four and gyms, but the idea of using non fuckable pokemon to beat the game goes a bit against your job, but if you want to do it go ahead.
A field researchers job is to study and document the region. Both its flora, fauna and its ecological layout.
Sure there are new pokemon that should defenitely be documented but that does not mean the other pokemon, who can be found in other regions, are less important to the job.
Ppl need to know if a bunch of dangerous pokemon have a nest in a certain area.
No idea why you assume that using the regular mons is against your job...
 
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SINtax EroRR

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You are talking about human adversaries, we are playing against AI so unless they can read what move you are about to use AI are pretty limited in their actions, but anyways the dev has spoken and we will have pokemon catching.

I know you are not hired only to procreate with pokemon, but you are hired to test Allerita and the Professor also mentions that you can use the gyms and the elite four as a medium to test her possibilities so I'm not against there being an elite four and gyms, but the idea of using non fuckable pokemon to beat the game goes a bit against your job, but if you want to do it go ahead.
So you understand the assignment, but still aren't satisfied with the reasoning? Its simple really. All waifumons aside from Allerita are optional. That being said, you can also bench Allerita entirely and proceed through many portions of the game without her. So far, there is only one story-based event that requires you to have Allerita on your party, because she's the only waifumon that has narrative importance to the game.

So since I cannot control who the player uses and how they build their party, it also wouldnt make any sense to have the game only center around catching and using Waifumon. As Blubbervink stated, as a researcher, your job isn't only to raise Allerita and test her capabilities, but also to explore the region and catalogue what you see. Yes, Wormwood doesn't put much importance into it, nor does he particularly care that you do it or not since his goals are not the same, but its part of your resume as a Field Researcher, and exploring the region is CORE to finding waifumon in the first place. Everything ties together eventually.

Regarding battle AI, its not as simplistic as you think. True, for the most part (especially ordinary trainers) we let the AI do what it wants. Sometimes, it does very well, sometimes its stupid as all hell. But in later portions of the game (and certain compulsory battles) I have adjusted the fights myself by rigging the AI in a sense. Forcing limitations on movepools, changing Abilities, etc to make the AI behave differently than simple "hit with super-effective moves." We implement setup, field hazards, and stat changes to give players more of a challenge. If you find the game easy, good. But the goal was never to make it so difficult that even competitive players will struggle, it was simply to make it hard enough that mainstream players will actually have to think instead of only relying on sweeper setups.

A good example of this are with the type of waifumons provided and how enemy teams are setup. In the beginning of the game, I force players to learn to setup, providing both Allerita and Lopunny (the earliest waifus you can get) with powerful combos that require stat boosting for the highest damage (or in Allerita's case, defense for sustain fights, with Destabilize as a counterweight to turn the tables).

Gardevoir is then introduced, and now players are made aware of using status effects like sleep, to help with Setup for either herself or other mons. Viruark is similar in many ways, but she now comes with the ability to set up multiple status problems and punish opponents for being too aggresive with Baneful bunker. Then you get Tsarevniya, teaching players that Defense can be a better offense and teaching players about longer-winded battles and knowing when to use her ability to negate fire attacks by switching in and out at the right moments. Drakaiden introduces weather effects and how to use it to your fullest advantage, as well as dual-type attacks.

My point is, everything, including combat evolves at a pace, and the enemies are scripted to behave differently to test the player's build. For example, the Stat-boosting tactic will not work against Novus, since 2 of her primary mons have Unaware and ignore your boosts while being sustained tanks, and requires players to think differently. TLDR; its not always as easy you might think. If you're lucky, the AI will fuck up and give you an easy win. But my beta testers and I have gone through each important matchup multiple times and can testify that when the AI does do what it should, the game is far more challenging.
 

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You are talking about human adversaries, we are playing against AI so unless they can read what move you are about to use AI are pretty limited in their actions, but anyways the dev has spoken and we will have pokemon catching harder scripted AI fights.
There you have it, we gonna get harder AI. Happy now?
 
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