I agree
If daughter is about 16-20, mom will be about 35-40, and grandma will be about 55+ years old.
An 18 year old daughter (looking 14 yo) with a mother looking 20 yo and a grandma looking 30 is funny.
POLL: What's your favorite age group for a sexable NPC?
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If daughter is about 16-20, mom will be about 35-40, and grandma will be about 55+ years old.
An 18 year old daughter (looking 14 yo) with a mother looking 20 yo and a grandma looking 30 is funny.
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For me the age is almost immaterial, compared to the overall design.
To put it another way, let's assume there are three characters - two are 18, and the third is 36. One of the 18 year olds is a skinny blonde A-cup, while the other two are D-cup brunettes with wide hips. As far as I'm concerned, the thin 18 year old has less in common with the other 18 year old than the two curvy girls have with each other.
Age really only matters for me in terms of how a character is being written. If a character is presented as a teen they should look and act somewhat like a teen, and if they're being presented as an adult they should be written and designed like an adult. The annoying part is mainly if they act out of type (so, say, your MILF character is acting like a teenage brat). But beyond that age isn't really important at all, and doesn't really factor in when I decide whether I like one character more than another (that's more personality and specific design).
If it's just a question of body type (ie, the assumption that most MILFs are chubbier with much larger breasts while teens are more athletic and skinny/small breasted) I tend to prefer the MILFier stereotype (larger boobs, hips, etc), but there's an upper limit to that (if breasts get too huge or just look like basketballs stapled to someone's chest it's a turn-off). But I usually factor the aesthetics of facial design and look over body type when it comes to finding characters attractive or not.
To put it another way, let's assume there are three characters - two are 18, and the third is 36. One of the 18 year olds is a skinny blonde A-cup, while the other two are D-cup brunettes with wide hips. As far as I'm concerned, the thin 18 year old has less in common with the other 18 year old than the two curvy girls have with each other.
Age really only matters for me in terms of how a character is being written. If a character is presented as a teen they should look and act somewhat like a teen, and if they're being presented as an adult they should be written and designed like an adult. The annoying part is mainly if they act out of type (so, say, your MILF character is acting like a teenage brat). But beyond that age isn't really important at all, and doesn't really factor in when I decide whether I like one character more than another (that's more personality and specific design).
If it's just a question of body type (ie, the assumption that most MILFs are chubbier with much larger breasts while teens are more athletic and skinny/small breasted) I tend to prefer the MILFier stereotype (larger boobs, hips, etc), but there's an upper limit to that (if breasts get too huge or just look like basketballs stapled to someone's chest it's a turn-off). But I usually factor the aesthetics of facial design and look over body type when it comes to finding characters attractive or not.
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On a general point about ages, no MILF should ever be under 40 and she must actually look her age. There's too many supposed MILF's who look to be in their mid/late 20's. As for a GILF, i'd say she needs to be around 60 plus and again must look their age, also it's good to see MILF's who aren't always the "perfect figure babe type" so there needs to be more body sizes for a bit of reality and we don't need every character to look like what is perceived as being beautiful. A great example is Beverly from Fall Fable.
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Easy one for me, MILF all the way! Not interested in teens or young adults. But 40 years old is still perfectly within milf age range, while gilf starts with 50+.
I certainly agree on your main points. Many "Milfs" in adult games look more like women in their late 20s, and I chalk that up to a combination of devs not desiring to render women older than that, not being properly able to without making it weird, and being so young themselves that they see 30 as "old", lol.
I also agree that Beverly looks a lot like women in their mid 40s often do in real life, so if you're going for super realistic, that's certainly doing a better job of it.
But personally, I'd like a mix of the two, where the women who are supposed to be in their early to mid 40s look more like celebrities of that age group. Someone like Bryce Dallas Howard (age 41), Evangeline Lilly (age 42), Zoe Saldana (age 44), ect. Plausibly in their 40s, but still hot and fit.
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Yeah, I don't know what happened to the term MILF that it transformed to mean "any" woman who is a mom (I've seen it used for 18 year old women with newborn babies). The term was developed as a way of 18-25 year old males to talk about women in the age group of their mothers, 35-55, that they found sexy but unapproachable. This is the flipside of the term cougar, which is the same age group of women (35-55), who actively seek out sexual partners in the under 30 age category. By extrapolation, GILF is 55+ age group (18 yo man + 18 years + 18 years = 54).
A disgustingly awful example, showing not age and maturity, but lousy genes, poor diet and lack of at least some physical exercise.
Seriously, look at Victoria Beckham, she's 48 and skinny as a 16 year old, look at Jennifer Connelly who is 51, Abigail Spencer 41, Kate Beckinsale 48. There are many examples, I know they are celebrities, but that doesn't make them superhuman with non-human genes, they just take care of their health and their looks at least a little bit. You can go on some social network or dating site and sort women by age, you'll see they're not much different from these celebrities. What you're showing is not MILF, it's some neglected fat sow.
Maybe it's because a lot of real women 35-40 years old look 10 years younger?
Here's a 34 year old for example, I doubt she'll look drastically older in 3-4 years.
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Yeah, when I was in college in the 90s, MILF meant exactly what you said. GILF, to me at least, is a much newer term, but I also agree with you that mid 50s is the absolute earliest that it should generally be used.
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Depends on context and design.
If the MC is in his 20s then a love interest in her 20s makes the most sense (usually).
Generally speaking I would prefer women aged 30+ - but the overly exaggerated super busty design many so-called "milfs" get in many games often makes me choose the less busty younger women that look a bit more natural. But of course it also depends on how the character is written.
An ideal love interest would be a natural looking woman without super sized breasts who is between 30-45 years old or so. And who shows some maturity in her character and behavior.
If the MC is in his 20s then a love interest in her 20s makes the most sense (usually).
Generally speaking I would prefer women aged 30+ - but the overly exaggerated super busty design many so-called "milfs" get in many games often makes me choose the less busty younger women that look a bit more natural. But of course it also depends on how the character is written.
An ideal love interest would be a natural looking woman without super sized breasts who is between 30-45 years old or so. And who shows some maturity in her character and behavior.
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I second Geralt's view. I mean, if the MC is let's say 20, it would make sense for the LIs to be of a similar age. I'm not a huge fan of big age differences. The writing just needs to get it across properly. And the younger part (MC or LI) should be more mentally mature than the actual age alone would actually suggest. That is when it comes to romance VNs. If it's purely about sex and zero romance involved then the age difference is less important. Way more important than age is believable characters that look and act their age.
And it would help with suspension of disbelief if the characters would have more variety in regards of body shape, height, weight, and proportions. That's especially an issue with the so called MILF characters that often look exactly the same in that regard.
And it would help with suspension of disbelief if the characters would have more variety in regards of body shape, height, weight, and proportions. That's especially an issue with the so called MILF characters that often look exactly the same in that regard.
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I'd argue it also doesn't work even if she is a teenager, except she grew up in a strict religious sheltered environment like the amish or something. I mean yo they are supposed to be 18, but are written like let's say 15, but even then it's unrealistic or implausible. Just like how it's implausible that a mother with teenagers or young adult children looks like a 30yo bikini model. Ugh the writing must be very good t allow or keep up the suspension of disbelief.
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It's one of my pet peeves. 18 or sometimes even 20 year olds that behave like 14 year olds who kiss a boy for the very first time. No one in the modern age is that naive (ok, a select few may be like that... like mentioned super religious girls)
This goes hand in hand with the patented progression book of sex, with a checklist of things to do and the trademarked line "I am not ready yet, but you can eat me out, kiss me as much as you like, grope, lick and fondle my breasts, maybe even put it in the backdoor, since that doesn't count, but my fragile emotional state won't be able to cope with actual sex... so come back in 10 updates please! But hey, I can give you countless handjobs and blowjobs and offer you my ass or pussy for grinding as much as you like! Deal?"
Maybe that was cute the first time some dec came up with that. But now this trope needs to be lead to a pasture where it can go to sleep and never wake up again. It's silly.
I feel some writers do this not just to stretch and pad content but because they'd rather want to write about 14-year-olds falling in love and true early teenage love, but Patreon won't let them, so supposedly adult characters behave like that instead.
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I generally don't care about the actual age of characters (barring the requisite 18 or older). Unless there's a specific gameplay reason to know ages, or you're doing stat cards or some such, it's fine to leave that up to the player's imagination.
This, basically... Along with the rest of the points in this post.
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The problem is, at heart we're still talking about what is essentially porn. Unattractive characters might be more realistic, but players won't necessarily want to hook up with/have sex scenes with those sorts of characters. Sure, some players will (for one reason or another), but many wouldn't. A game full of unattractive characters is more likely to drive potential players away, cost the dev money, and so on.
It's sort of the same reason why Hollywood doesn't cast genuinely unattractive or nerdy people to play ugly characters and nerds. Because at the end of the day you're still making a product you want people to find aesthetically pleasing. So it's better to just put a really hot chick in a frumpy sweater, give her glasses, and put her hair in a ponytail and pretend that she's hideous than it is to actually find an ugly actress.
Porn happened, probably.
All too often you have porn actresses in the mid-to-late 20s who do up their hair in a more conservative way, put on make-up to look a little older, and suddenly you have "MILF porn", even if those same actresses will then turn around, redo their hair into pigtails, do their make-up slightly differently, and pretend to be teens.
So people who watch lots of porn are going to sort of start to associate the idea of MILF porn with those younger women. You're not going to get a ton of 40+ porn (even though that type of porn certainly exists) as the mainstream assumption of what MILF porn is.
The limitations of computer graphics probably don't help things (HS games probably make old age nearly impossible to model well, and Daz just tends to make characters look uglier more than it makes them look attractively old). But the devs' perceptions of what an attractive "mommy" character is supposed to look like probably plays a bigger role. And they're going to base it more on Hollywood and porn than they are the sorts of women you meet around that age in the real world.
It's sort of similar to how most games on this site that have characters in college always seem to treat college more like high school. It's not really accurate at all, but it's how people tend to perceive things based on how Hollywood (and porn) presents the average life of a college student.
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Hard to say, since my tastes can be quite unusual and on top of that a myriad of things could influence them, including my whims.
For example, what is age to an immortal?
In a setting dealing with long-lived races i generally don't even give a shit about age.
For example, what is age to an immortal?
In a setting dealing with long-lived races i generally don't even give a shit about age.
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destroying innocence vs enjoying experience?
i like to have both options, and even get a chance to enjoy a bit of both...
i like to have both options, and even get a chance to enjoy a bit of both...
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From that poll? Teens.
But honestly, i prefer lolis.
I can have all of those agegroups in real life and dont even want half of it, but games should be different from real life. I dont want a grindy game that makes me feel like i'm working, i dont want some fucked up real life problems i handle all the time in games too, i dont want to waste time watching boring renders of overly common girls, etc.
Games should be fantasy, they should include the most surreal bullshit and the most taboo content, well, except for that whole noncon stuff and boring drama, thats again too realistic. If i want to feel realism i just shut down the pc and call a girl or go hunting for new ones.
But honestly, i prefer lolis.
I can have all of those agegroups in real life and dont even want half of it, but games should be different from real life. I dont want a grindy game that makes me feel like i'm working, i dont want some fucked up real life problems i handle all the time in games too, i dont want to waste time watching boring renders of overly common girls, etc.
Games should be fantasy, they should include the most surreal bullshit and the most taboo content, well, except for that whole noncon stuff and boring drama, thats again too realistic. If i want to feel realism i just shut down the pc and call a girl or go hunting for new ones.