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That's literally what is going to happen, there are a few releases left until the developer considered it 1.0.

The fucking developer said that, he ultimately gets to decide when the game is 1.0 complete.
The game was already functionally complete a long time ago.
I said you didn't explain the version scheme and how *it* relates to completeness. Read it again if you need.
 

Jinsem

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I said you didn't explain the version scheme and how *it* relates to completeness. Read it again if you need.
Maybe I am not fully following either, but as far as this game goes, the next update would be 28.xx.xx, next 29, not necessarily meaning 29% complete, just 29th update with what comes after usually a fix or two. Its not uncommon for games to be v0.1, v0.2, v0.3 next thing you know its a V2.1 not knowing when did we get to V1.0
I dont think we would see v0.70s or something like that (in case you are trying to judge by version count to 100), maybe we will jump from somewhere on the 50s to straight up V1.0 if V1.0 tag is a must.
I am not guaranteeing that we wont see 72 more updates before the game is complete, I am just saying its probably unlikely.
 
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Maybe I am not fully following either, but as far as this game goes, the next update would be 28.xx.xx, next 29, not necessarily meaning 29% complete, just 29th update with what comes after usually a fix or two. Its not uncommon for games to be v0.1, v0.2, v0.3 next thing you know its a V2.1 not knowing when did we get to V1.0
I dont think we would see v0.70s or something like that (in case you are trying to judge by version count to 100), maybe we will jump from somewhere on the 50s to straight up V1.0 if V1.0 tag is a must.
I am not guaranteeing that we wont see 72 more updates before the game is complete, I am just saying its probably unlikely.
This was already resolved, developer will be jumping to 1.0 when considered complete, I'm merely responding to his sand-pounding. Developer doesn't follow decades-old de facto semantic version schemes (Major.Minor, but rather 0.Major...etc) and they'll be jumping to 1.0 when they consider it complete. That relationship of 1.0 to versioning scheme wasn't made obvious, they fussed when I pointed out it didn't make sense without knowing that (and when I called them out for saying there aren't version standards, SemVer is a popular and very common one). The issue is resolved.
 
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Developer doesn't follow decades-old de facto semantic version schemes (Major.Minor, but rather 0.Major...etc) and they'll be jumping to 1.0 when they consider it complete.
Version numbers are completely arbitrary.
It's not about what you expect or think.
It's about what the dev actually uses.
I just pointed out how the developer uses it.
 
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Version numbers are completely arbitrary.
It's not about what you expect or think.
It's about what the dev actually uses.
I just pointed out how the developer uses it.
Developer for well over two and a half decades now, I'm quite well aware of software and hardware version schemes (edit: and hardware is even more Wild West). Your "pointing out" was incomplete and that is what I was bringing up. I'll spell it out for you in even simpler terms:
27 is the number of major versions released not a percentage number to the completion of the game, you can already consider it equivalent to a 0.9 versioning and close to completion.
No one said anything about percentage. "you can already consider it equivalent to a 0.9 versioning and close to completion." Where does that "0.9" comparison come from? Where is this rule coming from that it is an equivalent to a 0.9? Why do you assume 0.9 is close to completion? There are infinite numbers between 0.9 and 1.0. Are you assuming each release ("Major") is incremented always by 0.1? If so, state the developer's position on it (edit: when first responding about it, not just down the line after the lack of this in your response gets pointed out), don't just say it without referencing or providing some logical reason for it. Arbitrary assumption is just sloppy thinking. Common/universal facts (such as the Earth being spheroid) aren't always held to regard but anything data can be, which is why I was asking. You just huffed and fussed.
0. is just that the game is not technically complete and 1.0 is expected to be released in the future.
That's what the Dev is using, I just explained what he is using.
There is no real standard when it comes to version numbers, it's up to the developer's whim.
That does not explain the increment rule, the rule regarding increment between 0.0 and 1.0 which is what we were talking about (my pointing out that version numbering common to software is based on SemVer or SemVer-like which was intended to point out 0.X would be Minor unless otherwise stated by a developer since it is de facto because it's so common). You also claimed there is no real standard, so I brought up SemVer being a very real and very common standard, as a possibility to explain a common incrementing rule to query what you didn't explain. Blather on if you want, not wasting any more time on trying to point out what you did or didn't do.

For anyone else: 0.0.0.1 increments we can see in the changelog -currently appear- to be bug fixes or changes/tweaks to existing content, rather than anything considered new. 0.0.1 increments appeared previously to be a mixture of release, bug, changes/tweaks. See v0.9.X and back for example.
 

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You're both just arguing for the sake of it now, please just cool it down before it gets heated enough mods get involved or something. We've all already established how it works for this game, so there's no point in continuing to argue over how everyone else uses it or how Syvaron came to decide how he would use it or etc etc.
 

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This guy seems real popular at parties. The kind of guy that struts up and just goes "BuT tHe DrApEs ArEnT cOlOr CoRoDiNaTeD lIkE hOw I lIkE tO do ThEm!" Like motherfucker its not your house and nobody asked for your opinion about what someone does or does not do. Throwing a hissy fit over whether someone follows some rules in their PERSONAL SOLO PROJECT is the silliest thing to get all bent out of shape over. Just leave people alone and stop derailing the actual discussion about the game.
 

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Where does that "0.9" comparison come from?
What does 0.9 usually mean? Functionally complete.
Is this game functionally complete? Yes.
The developer has said on Discord that he is looking into finishing the game so that he can work on some other projects.
So probably have only a few releases left until 1.0.
I am not sure what is that hard to understand.
 
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oh, right, here is the , which have it's own channel on discord, not sure how update it is tho, since while the dev is active on discord, this page is read-only, and since no one interact with it, who know if it got update?

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This guy seems real popular at parties. The kind of guy that struts up and just goes "BuT tHe DrApEs ArEnT cOlOr CoRoDiNaTeD lIkE hOw I lIkE tO do ThEm!" Like motherfucker its not your house and nobody asked for your opinion about what someone does or does not do. Throwing a hissy fit over whether someone follows some rules in their PERSONAL SOLO PROJECT is the silliest thing to get all bent out of shape over. Just leave people alone and stop derailing the actual discussion about the game.
Neither of us threw fits over whether the developer follows any common versioning scheme or not. As for myself, I merely asked him to explain where his reasoning came from because it was pertinent to the actual discussion of the game, eg. version releases and how their numbering may or may not contribute to estimating the final release of the game.
 

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You are missing the biggest point of all of this that has been pointed out multiple times. Having some kind of system that makes sense to you or conveys some kind of special meaning to you is not a requirement. The only reason version systems exist whether that be some kind of "standard" people use or something they literally make up is for the people making the game to keep tabs on themselves. Outside input or critique is irrelevant and not a topic worth pointing out much less discussing. Version numbers are not have never been and will never be some kind of gauge on how complete something is or how close to completion it is. It is just a system to keep tabs on iterations of a design. The only people that it matters to or that should ever care about what it means or how it works are the people working on the product in question. It is not for some random schmuck on a forum to comment about or question. It is pointless nitpicking and only serves to annoy everyone in the same way that if someone drops by your house and complains that you dont have your books or DVDs arranged in alphabetical order because they do and thats the only correct way to do so. Everyone has their own way of housekeeping and it is not for someone else to swoop in and judge them for it or try to force some arbitrary logic into. Maybe i want to sort my shit by genre. Maybe im just gonna throw it all in a barrel. Maybe ill store them all in a hammock strung from the rafters. If someone comes along and starts to try to debate me over any of it ill just tell them to fuck off cause its my house.
 
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istg if this game really managed to reach that fabled 1.0 status i'll use it as an example to the BS thread "yo people, so this is how you can circumvent the breeding tag curse! just make something else the main feature of the game but keep a comprehensive breeding mechanics underneath!"
 

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Eventually according to Syvaron temperament, all the broken build uninvolved with Evolution will disappear so enjoy breaking what you have while you can. I still remember how broken it was a long time ago. Ah 3000 magic Kitsune, my beloved

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How did you get her? Is there a particular fusion or is she boss that you need to invite in your group?
 

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How did you get her? Is there a particular fusion or is she boss that you need to invite in your group?
It is an example of an old broken mechanic that was removed. Namely, Favor and Devil Potential which increase characters to ludicrous level in short time.

For a normal Kitsune, you need to beat a Kitsune boss on the world map, which would drop an egg that you can hatch. It is one of the few easy way to get Lightning Storm, which is a very broken spell.
 

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Neither of us threw fits over whether the developer follows any common versioning scheme or not. As for myself, I merely asked him to explain where his reasoning came from because it was pertinent to the actual discussion of the game, eg. version releases and how their numbering may or may not contribute to estimating the final release of the game.
Dude give it a rest. Nobody cares what version numbers are supposed to mean on a pirate porn game forum. And it has been explained several times now that the game - sadly - seems to be nearly finished based on the developers comments.
 

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It is an example of an old broken mechanic that was removed. Namely, Favor and Devil Potential which increase characters to ludicrous level in short time.

For a normal Kitsune, you need to beat a Kitsune boss on the world map, which would drop an egg that you can hatch. It is one of the few easy way to get Lightning Storm, which is a very broken spell.
But now with Juliev everyone can summon electro spirits and one evolution into static girls gives Lightning Storm and a bunch of other or even better skills like discharge.
 

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You are missing the biggest point of all of this that has been pointed out multiple times. Having some kind of system that makes sense to you or conveys some kind of special meaning to you is not a requirement. The only reason version systems exist whether that be some kind of "standard" people use or something they literally make up is for the people making the game to keep tabs on themselves. Outside input or critique is irrelevant and not a topic worth pointing out much less discussing. Version numbers are not have never been and will never be some kind of gauge on how complete something is or how close to completion it is. It is just a system to keep tabs on iterations of a design. The only people that it matters to or that should ever care about what it means or how it works are the people working on the product in question. It is not for some random schmuck on a forum to comment about or question. It is pointless nitpicking and only serves to annoy everyone in the same way that if someone drops by your house and complains that you dont have your books or DVDs arranged in alphabetical order because they do and thats the only correct way to do so. Everyone has their own way of housekeeping and it is not for someone else to swoop in and judge them for it or try to force some arbitrary logic into. Maybe i want to sort my shit by genre. Maybe im just gonna throw it all in a barrel. Maybe ill store them all in a hammock strung from the rafters. If someone comes along and starts to try to debate me over any of it ill just tell them to fuck off cause its my house.
No, you're missing where I didn't care that it had to make sense, I merely wanted to know what it was the author was doing and why the poster was saying 0.27 was near completion and comparing it to 0.9.
Dude give it a rest. Nobody cares what version numbers are supposed to mean on a pirate porn game forum. And it has been explained several times now that the game - sadly - seems to be nearly finished based on the developers comments.
You missed the part where I specifically mentioned its about finding out how near it is to game completion.
 

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We can do this until the devs and mods boot us all from the thrend, doesnt change the fact that this particular game is currently V0.27.0.1. Whether someone likes it or not, and far as many of us are concerned, the game is functionally complete, even though we are exceedingly pleased with TLC it still gets.
By the way this game is not labeled what version it is, as for the folders, you can always rename them to whatever that doesn't bother you guys.:ROFLMAO:

Ill take my retirement from the topic.
 
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dhannywest

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The honest answer is we don't know exactly how far away 'complete' is. It's a free porn game, there's no requirement for the dev to complete this beyond their motivation. As much as one can use version numbers and content roadmaps to structure development there isn't any release date to hit or marketing timetables to be mindful of. This is true of most games here. Most people don't seem too particular about it because Portals is pretty feature complete at the moment. If it was abandoned right now people would be a surprise to find out it's incomplete by playing it.
 

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I merely wanted to know what it was the author was doing and why the poster was saying 0.27 was near completion and comparing it to 0.9.
What do you think "Complete" means?
I was responding to a post that was wondering how much content the game has.
The game is far from a "alpha" or 1/4 done as the version might seem at first glance.
And the equivalent to 0.9 which is close to completion, especially since the developer said it's close to completion shouldn't be wrong.
Even if the developer was undecided, the game is already feature complete and content rich. How much more "Complete" do you want the game to be?
 
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