Possible NTR revenge game discussion

[MadHeadMaster]

maybe it better I guess. so many 100% netorare game was release and I'm bored. rn I feel like they just lazy to make it becuz it trends.

True, true. Some devs probably don't even know what NTR really mean.

I think the "how" of losing the girl is good to see, but it doesn't need to be long. Horton Bay has done this well by having MC finding his girl and best friend fucking. MC then changes colleges and then we're off to the races.

I see, thanks for the suggestion.

 

[gedads]

i like your idea of ntr revenge, but i don't think you can't get everyone mad, some ntr stories are good, usually, only the male mc suffers but only for a part of straight players, ntr pure lovers enjoys it. maybe if you're more on the revenge side (justice side) you'll get trouble thinking as a cuck bbc lover etc and write that part and fall into cliché ntr but really that doesn't really have a big importance in my opinion , all ntr games have the same bases only emphasize humiliation of the useless male MC seems to make them happy. After trying and never manage to finish ntr games, what i have experienced is that you're always forced to become a cuck, you can't express that you're not ok to sharing, you discover that you like sucking dicks etc... without any choice which is really annoying to straight people if you play games like i do by projecting the MC because you're forced to stop to play as you can't anymore project into the character.
Sorry if i have no clear mind today but what i want to tell you is:
if you give the choices to players to really have a panel of answers leading to different path once the ntr part is started or done and really respect those, you can't have any player put your game in the recycle bin. I think NTR authors probably create a large community of suscribers at first trying to get money, then reduce it overtime by gradually trying to make people accept their views. I doubt any of those actually really thought about 'what if the male MC start to behave like almost all men' and ever intend to add such a path and in that way you would be a pioneer.

 

[MadHeadMaster]

i like your idea of ntr revenge, but i don't think you can't get everyone mad, some ntr stories are good, usually, only the male mc suffers but only for a part of straight players, ntr pure lovers enjoys it. maybe if you're more on the revenge side (justice side) you'll get trouble thinking as a cuck bbc lover etc and write that part and fall into cliché ntr but really that doesn't really have a big importance in my opinion , all ntr games have the same bases only emphasize humiliation of the useless male MC seems to make them happy. After trying and never manage to finish ntr games, what i have experienced is that you're always forced to become a cuck, you can't express that you're not ok to sharing, you discover that you like sucking dicks etc... without any choice which is really annoying to straight people if you play games like i do by projecting the MC because you're forced to stop to play as you can't anymore project into the character.
Sorry if i have no clear mind today but what i want to tell you is:
if you give the choices to players to really have a panel of answers leading to different path once the ntr part is started or done and really respect those, you can't have any player put your game in the recycle bin. I think NTR authors probably create a large community of suscribers at first trying to get money, then reduce it overtime by gradually trying to make people accept their views. I doubt any of those actually really thought about 'what if the male MC start to behave like almost all men' and ever intend to add such a path and in that way you would be a pioneer.

I get what you're trying to say. From what I see, NTR devs either know NTR fan base are huge so they rather focus on them, or they're just too lazy to be inclusive for others. I'm not saying they should, since it's their game after all. But it's true that I don't think I've seen enough NTR game with MC fighting back. Overall I think putting two or more diverse paths in one game is hard, that's probably why not a lot of devs do it.

But for this game I'm planning though, I don't think there would be an option for players to let MC accept NTR, it's a revenge story after all.

 

[gedads]

" I think the "how" of losing the girl is good to see, but it doesn't need to be long. Horton Bay has done this well by having MC finding his girl and best friend fucking. MC then changes colleges and then we're off to the races. "

I think it depends of the relationship, a married couple it should take more time else it will turn into hotwifing game but for those on a revenge route i doubt anything can tie them together without children and i doubt people keep pursuing a total whores . It's totally different metting and ending up with a whore that you're in love with and having a wife that cheats and become a whore. i think the first one is more reliable.
If it's just a girlfriend if it happens quickly you turn the page quickly, unless the story is really good it's just an empty book.


" that's probably why not a lot of devs do it
But for this game I'm planning though, I don't think there would be an option for players to let MC accept NTR, it's a revenge story after all. "
I wasn't talking about all the bullshit where the player is pushing for the worst to occur, yes story wise it has to occur, the stronger the injustice is felt the more ntr lovers loves the game and the best the revenge can be for classic video games players. The NTR relies on depicting mostly silly people with no moral or just insanity.When a break up happens for most people there's sadness , anger etc but you have to keep going. That's where NTR comes in, usually one side is totally crazy and betrays then maintain the relationish or enjoys the suffering of the other part (that's where forced sharing cucking sissification humiliation gay fetish cum drinking happens). While ntr lovers take pleasure from that i think a fraction of players, based from this forum i'm started to think maybe not the majority expect a reaction from the MC, some pride, some human reaction (once again, read the news that's just more crazy than games, it can be death given to wife and children etc, the husband over corrupting the wife like selling her to for a few bucks and having her fall in drug, it can be the wish of the husband to have her left him because he's a coward that didn't want to break up, letting her corrupt herself for the whole game: break ups mostly comes from women, most men are cowards and will use strategies to make sure their wifes leaves). Insanity isn't a women's only trait. Psycho MC could totally work in a dark route revenge, also happy revenge, he totally gets over it the level of humiliation decreasing as the love for the wife vanish while she's still on a corruption route she's following alone etc.

But you're totally right the NTR has to happen no matter what since it's the core of the game if not it's a romance with ntr possibility. I don't know about the work, usually i have that kind of problem in my work as well i'm not good at guessing how long it will take.

At last, having just an ending with the MC not being just a loser with a small dick and everything that comes with but standing on his feet and going forward is ok as well.

 

[MadHeadMaster]

Yeah there could be a lot of possibilities of doing it, depending on the relationship between MC and his loved one. I have a bone structure of this story, but it probably won't happen anytime soon, I have other stories I want to do first.

And yeah, the ending is definitely not going to be just MC being a loser and all, or it won't be a good revenge.

 

[Jesus101]

Hey there I'm not sure what kinda game you're gonna make (as in gameplay wise and structure wise) but I thought I'd throw my hat into the ring as well.

you could do the two chapter idea you proposed and if you are afraid of pushing some people off you could make it a choice as to how detailed they want the flashback to be. One choice would lead to living through the whole ordeal while the other would just have snippets of what happened.

you could also make the revenge a choice the player makes. Maybe have choices that drive the direction the story takes (this will probably be more work than you asked for) but this way would definitely satisfy both parties as well as those who enjoy both.

 

[Grizzzzly]

Recently watched an episode of the Practice. A chubby, nice dude named Norman comes home and finds his wife in bed with his best friend. He is devastated and during the divorce trial you really sympathize with the guy, 10 years this affair was going on, she wants everything and saying she is sorry. He gets a good settlement cause it was on tape and she was naughty, but comes home days later - they are in is house and in his bed, she turns and gives him an evil grin as she is riding the best friends dick. Totally an evil conniving bitch, and you really feel it in the guts...he then shoots them both and they are dead dead, he gets off the charges cause he is the estranged son of some Croatian ambassador or something, has to leave the country but he kinda wins....I was happy.

SO here is your Revenge NTR Game - Hubby catches wife and best buddy, they are particularly mean (humiliating), about it, and due to "things" he loses the house, kids (who hate him now because "things")all his money and even goes to jail for a few years (where he learns "things"). Her family, best buddies family all lied and testified against him cause they are all evil (the women are hot of course).

Gets out - shacks up with a older but hot hooker who wants out of the business, but needs help getting off the drugs and her pimp who is one of the family members who testified against him. She is quite redeemable, so Mr Evil White Knight saves her and they fall in love - but now plot the destruction of two families and the ex wife and former best friend.

We shall not stop till the ex is a cum whore on the streets, best buddy is dying from aids from all the gay porn he was forced to do, the families are all broken up, probably picked up her mom and his best buddies mom as side pieces whom you have knocked up. The mafia ended up killing the dads from some other "Reasons" etc. Oh and the kids who sided with mom - choices - make them cum sluts, BBC whores, or doing orgy porn, or redemption "they now love daddy" - maybe have to get the grandmas into GILF porn as well.

Ending - you ride off into the sunset with your reformed prostitute, she helped with everything but is a sweettie, who has a big pregnant belly, you are rich now (from all the porn vids and new hookers) and the sun sets.

Now go - make it.

 

[gedads]

Recently watched an episode of the Practice. A chubby, nice dude named Norman comes home and finds his wife in bed with his best friend. He is devastated and during the divorce trial you really sympathize with the guy, 10 years this affair was going on, she wants everything and saying she is sorry. He gets a good settlement cause it was on tape and she was naughty, but comes home days later - they are in is house and in his bed, she turns and gives him an evil grin as she is riding the best friends dick. Totally an evil conniving bitch, and you really feel it in the guts...he then shoots them both and they are dead dead, he gets off the charges cause he is the estranged son of some Croatian ambassador or something, has to leave the country but he kinda wins....I was happy.

SO here is your Revenge NTR Game - Hubby catches wife and best buddy, they are particularly mean (humiliating), about it, and due to "things" he loses the house, kids (who hate him now because "things")all his money and even goes to jail for a few years (where he learns "things"). Her family, best buddies family all lied and testified against him cause they are all evil (the women are hot of course).

Gets out - shacks up with a older but hot hooker who wants out of the business, but needs help getting off the drugs and her pimp who is one of the family members who testified against him. She is quite redeemable, so Mr Evil White Knight saves her and they fall in love - but now plot the destruction of two families and the ex wife and former best friend.

We shall not stop till the ex is a cum whore on the streets, best buddy is dying from aids from all the gay porn he was forced to do, the families are all broken up, probably picked up her mom and his best buddies mom as side pieces whom you have knocked up. The mafia ended up killing the dads from some other "Reasons" etc. Oh and the kids who sided with mom - choices - make them cum sluts, BBC whores, or doing orgy porn, or redemption "they now love daddy" - maybe have to get the grandmas into GILF porn as well.

Ending - you ride off into the sunset with your reformed prostitute, she helped with everything but is a sweettie, who has a big pregnant belly, you are rich now (from all the porn vids and new hookers) and the sun sets.

Now go - make it.

That should be one route, revenge can take many forms. You can even make a game when the husband won a lottery, is cucked by half the planet and secretly choose one from the people the wife fuck with to push her litteraly into his arms to get a clean divorce so that his wife have nothing. (preserving his wealth is now much more important than the wife. Even have him secretly test every children they can have to now how to react , to place himself under right jurisdiction to abandon them all at minimum cost etc) Of course all of that would be better if he's doing it for his new love (but being marked by previous relation he's now really cautious and has some vasectomy done, contract before any engagment done by the best lawers etc)

Another where he began to live another life with another identity never touching his first wife and =if he had to always wear a condom he personnally owns or vasectomy or bring a special coffee with morning pill inside if unexpected event occurs so no trap possible, disappearing for weeks to his other family etc hoping for her to go.

the violent revenge is something that imply the MC not being over it, if it's peaceful, the mc is clearly done with her, he has no feelings at all which is much better in my opinion

 

[| Vee |]

To all the NTR lovers and haters out there, I have a question that someone probably asked before, or not.

If there's a NTR revenge game where the MC who got NTRed came back to take revenge on the guy who NTRed him and the loved one(s) who betrayed him, will you prefer:

1. the game focused on the revenge part and keeps the part where MC got NTRed in either intro or maybe flashback.

2. split the game into two chapters, chapter 1 tells the story how he loses his loved one(s) to the antagonist, and chapter 2 tells how he came back and take revenge.

Basically I'm wondering if having the part where he got NTRed longer will make more impact to the story, and brings more satisfaction to the antagonist's downfall or it will be too painful for people to sit through it?

IF you want a Harem fan opinion than

1. MC should flew the city and left them
2. MC should ruin there life(can anything depending on the Dev's and his audiences tolerance level) but not take those sluts back

Winning those sluts back is not an option among any option that Harem fan or would enjoy.

I do like Netori games but I ain't stealing these sluts instead may be go on camping with them all and make them camp in middle of the forest and flew by taking there all supplies and would spread meat around the camp and surrounding area to make those wolves, foxes, bears, etc have there way with them.

Also there is no need for flash backs but instead a text is sufficient enough to convey the message.

 

[gedads]

"I do like Netori games but I ain't stealing these sluts instead may be go on camping with them all and make them camp in middle of the forest "
how is this even possible excepted in a teenager game? ntr is about betrayal between 2 peoples, if a harem betrays you (i don't like harem games) just change the harem. women in a harem are already sluts why would you take revenge when you knew what you were chasing.

the game MadHeadMaster wants to do is focused on the revenge which means once the ntr started (if i read correctly his first post). it's either people living together married or not with or without childrens, i don't see people taking revenge on their mother or shit like that, they can just leave and start their adult life. It's also different with the age range from the protagonists (20-30, it hurts to be betrayed but honestly who gives a fuck your life is ahead of you, 30-40 is where women cheat the most and 50-55 it's usually men taking their revenge)

irl men leaving for someone else even if not betrayed don't give a fuck about their old relationship really even if it's the mother of their children. Women at the same time are declining and are looking to keep the same level of life. It will probably change in the future since more and more women are earing enough money to live alone, but my guess is that in the future people just won't marry and live together because honestly it's a pain in the ass for everyone.

also for a good game both part of the couple should provide something the other need at first i mean really not just a whore wife unemployed etc in that case ntr is a gift almost like a reward like please take her away from me. With children it's more complicated as the wife will use them as leverage (the usual if you do that you'll never see them again, you'll lose everything etc)

if the game is with MC in their 20 30 , no children, there's nothing at stake except money and a bit of pain, loss of pride etc which anyway is already stated since the wife prefers to have sex with anyone but you.

In the 30-40 that's where the drama can be the most interesting because everyone is on the edge, the loss is enormous for both if the wife didn't secured another relationship before hand and the male MC possibly losing everything he has built over years (even children if they're not his).

40-50, if the male just did the minimum to stay in shape don't waste his free time drinking or doing drugs, just let the nature do its best, women are decaying probably because of maternity and you'll get your revenge quicker than you think.

 

[MadHeadMaster]

Thank you for all of your suggestions. I wanna share a bit of my current idea (which is not happening soon because I'm planning to do a simpler idea first).

Sorry to disappoint you gedads but this idea I have in mind does involve MC's family members to some degree. What I have in mind is the combination of the regular NTR where a girlfriend/wife betrays the MC and family NTR where MC's family members such as mom, sister, aunt or all betray MC over someone else.

There's a Chinese web novel trope where MC gets in the way of the school bully who's rich so he decided to ruin MC's life by turning MC's girlfriend, mother and maybe sister too into his own sluts. And in the end MC could do nothing about it except accepting his fate as a pathetic cuck. I'm always baffled that I never read a story where the MC successfully fought back.

The premise of my idea is similar. The antagonist is going to be a rich jerk who MC gets into his way so he decided to ruin MC's life by fucking not only MC's girlfriend but his mother and sister too. (Maybe even MC's female friends too, depends) I plan to make the rival do something more sinister, like get MC's best friend into a car accident that MC can't prove the rival's behind it.

So the revenge part will start with his best friend hospitalized, his girlfriend stolen, his mother and sister didn’t believe him (not going to make them total cum sluts like those hentai comics who only see the rival as their man, but have enough trust in the rival that don't fully take MC's side), and MC decided to leave and plan his revenge.

Of course he's going to get some allies, someone who still believes him, or someone who got screwed over by the rival before. He's going to plan and train, then return, ready to let the rival taste his own medicine by taking every woman around him as well.

That's my plan so far, incest is possible in this that's why I think I probably cannot do this on patreon.

 

[Lerd0]

Thank you for all of your suggestions. I wanna share a bit of my current idea (which is not happening soon because I'm planning to do a simpler idea first).

Sorry to disappoint you gedads but this idea I have in mind does involve MC's family members to some degree. What I have in mind is the combination of the regular NTR where a girlfriend/wife betrays the MC and family NTR where MC's family members such as mom, sister, aunt or all betray MC over someone else.

There's a Chinese web novel trope where MC gets in the way of the school bully who's rich so he decided to ruin MC's life by turning MC's girlfriend, mother and maybe sister too into his own sluts. And in the end MC could do nothing about it except accepting his fate as a pathetic cuck. I'm always baffled that I never read a story where the MC successfully fought back.

The premise of my idea is similar. The antagonist is going to be a rich jerk who MC gets into his way so he decided to ruin MC's life by fucking not only MC's girlfriend but his mother and sister too. (Maybe even MC's female friends too, depends) I plan to make the rival do something more sinister, like get MC's best friend into a car accident that MC can't prove the rival's behind it.

So the revenge part will start with his best friend hospitalized, his girlfriend stolen, his mother and sister didn’t believe him (not going to make them total cum sluts like those hentai comics who only see the rival as their man, but have enough trust in the rival that don't fully take MC's side), and MC decided to leave and plan his revenge.

Of course he's going to get some allies, someone who still believes him, or someone who got screwed over by the rival before. He's going to plan and train, then return, ready to let the rival taste his own medicine by taking every woman around him as well.

That's my plan so far, incest is possible in this that's why I think I probably cannot do this on patreon.

..just plz...make the revenge harsh as fuck....don't let the mc pussy out......

 

[gedads]

Thank you for all of your suggestions. I wanna share a bit of my current idea (which is not happening soon because I'm planning to do a simpler idea first).

Sorry to disappoint you gedads but this idea I have in mind does involve MC's family members to some degree. What I have in mind is the combination of the regular NTR where a girlfriend/wife betrays the MC and family NTR where MC's family members such as mom, sister, aunt or all betray MC over someone else.

There's a Chinese web novel trope where MC gets in the way of the school bully who's rich so he decided to ruin MC's life by turning MC's girlfriend, mother and maybe sister too into his own sluts. And in the end MC could do nothing about it except accepting his fate as a pathetic cuck. I'm always baffled that I never read a story where the MC successfully fought back.

The premise of my idea is similar. The antagonist is going to be a rich jerk who MC gets into his way so he decided to ruin MC's life by fucking not only MC's girlfriend but his mother and sister too. (Maybe even MC's female friends too, depends) I plan to make the rival do something more sinister, like get MC's best friend into a car accident that MC can't prove the rival's behind it.

So the revenge part will start with his best friend hospitalized, his girlfriend stolen, his mother and sister didn’t believe him (not going to make them total cum sluts like those hentai comics who only see the rival as their man, but have enough trust in the rival that don't fully take MC's side), and MC decided to leave and plan his revenge.

Of course he's going to get some allies, someone who still believes him, or someone who got screwed over by the rival before. He's going to plan and train, then return, ready to let the rival taste his own medicine by taking every woman around him as well.

That's my plan so far, incest is possible in this that's why I think I probably cannot do this on patreon.

girlfriend sisters mother etc... if he leaves and is well trained and educated why would he come back if not to avenge his friend which is the only victim... Seems more like a teenager game that needs a background or superior motive to keep the MC doing anything but leave. I don't know if you're from europe or occidental country but if he fucked his family, one phone call to any judge will instant remove the harem from his nemesis with the mother being jailed (maybe even if it didn't happen) as for the nemesis, there will never be a man on earth able to avoid being asskicked by someone really wanting to do whatever it takes to achieve his goal. There's no such thing except if he is out of the common world (really rich and live in a castle, never goes out, own his company and never live the ceo office etc) and you'll mostly encounter that kind of submission which is inherent to eastern civilization. In the west you don't give a fuck about anyone except if you have an interest. in south america you could just casually kill him for him refusing to give you a glass of water. i don't even mention the other parts of the world...

I mean except for the friend, if he's a really good friend like a brother, i don't really understand why he would do anything, all his family prefers to trust another guy so be it... he has the strenght to leave, wonderful, but unless he has serious mental issues, once he builds his life , he's independant and would think of doing other things. I really don't believe that someone that has left his parents living alone, opening to the world would stop everything (his potential work, relationship )and come back for revenge.

Anyway it's your game and your first attempt, i wish you good luck. i don't think i'm appealed by that kind of scenario but maybe your next one will.

 

[MadHeadMaster]

..just plz...make the revenge harsh as fuck....don't let the mc pussy out......

Thanks, I will try my best.

girlfriend sisters mother etc... if he leaves and is well trained and educated why would he come back if not to avenge his friend which is the only victim... Seems more like a teenager game that needs a background or superior motive to keep the MC doing anything but leave. I don't know if you're from europe or occidental country but if he fucked his family, one phone call to any judge will instant remove the harem from his nemesis with the mother being jailed (maybe even if it didn't happen) as for the nemesis, there will never be a man on earth able to avoid being asskicked by someone really wanting to do whatever it takes to achieve his goal. There's no such thing except if he is out of the common world (really rich and live in a castle, never goes out, own his company and never live the ceo office etc) and you'll mostly encounter that kind of submission which is inherent to eastern civilization. In the west you don't give a fuck about anyone except if you have an interest. in south america you could just casually kill him for him refusing to give you a glass of water. i don't even mention the other parts of the world...

I mean except for the friend, if he's a really good friend like a brother, i don't really understand why he would do anything, all his family prefers to trust another guy so be it... he has the strenght to leave, wonderful, but unless he has serious mental issues, once he builds his life , he's independant and would think of doing other things. I really don't believe that someone that has left his parents living alone, opening to the world would stop everything (his potential work, relationship )and come back for revenge.

Anyway it's your game and your first attempt, i wish you good luck. i don't think i'm appealed by that kind of scenario but maybe your next one will.

Well, I'm sorry it's not your cup of tea. But thanks for the discussion and encouragement!