VN Ren'Py "Project Caffeine" - (Futa, Inc3st, Low Fantasy) [Development Thread]

[BlueCrossX]

Ooooooh ya this would actually be the perfect setup to that Kate and Carmen scene!! Hell it could go so far that if Laura loses the bet, and later on has to deal with her punishment in that Carmen/Kate/Jessica sharing scene... Kate makes Laura join Carmen and then it just becomes all of them servicing Kate... hmmm... that actually gives me good thought on how to consider coding that like narrative architecture in Ren'Py! And I agree, I think Kate going all the way with
Laura would be a different later scene... perhaps something to also do with attribute theft... I wonder how that scene could go.... (Bonus points if you have ideas/references!)

And yes I knew you liked the dialogue stuff! I've already got that coffee possession render posed, you're in for a treat! (It's a single frame but I like it! It's the only one in the group of renders where Coffee is a futa!)

And yeah, currently sex scenes are coded so that the initial "start" of a scene is usually a "choice" that you make, very clear. (Most of the time...) But then the scene will sometimes have multiple phases and variations, which, are either available to the player or NOT depending on all the choice they have made leading up to it!

Every character has a number of "stats" that go up or down depending on your actions. So for Kate, she has a "Dom Stat" that is a variable, and if you want her to be on top, you have to increase those stats. Things like:

- "Letting Kate enter a building first during a robbery"

- "Losing to Kate in a drinking competition"

- "Failing to stop Kate from fucking one of your contacts in a high stakes heist"

All of those increase said stat, and means that she will be the "top".

The Carmen/Kate/Jessica sharing scene sounds great and glad to be able to give you new ideas on how to do things.

An attribute theft scene that isn't the obvious shrinking and growing of character dicks, which makes me think of that Taylor/Laura/Kate scene you have storyboarded, it's going to be so hot. I tried to think of a different type of theft so this is what I came up with. You sarcastically mention that Kate would have her own fantasy element and when I came up with the scene of two Lauras for Amelia and Taylor you said that Laura might gain the ability of copying herself, so I used those two things to come up with my scene. You have horny a Kate finally ready to claim Laura but before she does, she decides to start to absorbing Laura's energy which weakens her and amplifies her own power that she uses to duplicate herself so she can ravage a weaken and vulnerable Laura to teach her who she belongs to now. Then you can do different scenes with two Kates like having Laura blow one and the other one decides to push Laura forward so she Deepthroat the other Kate then they switch with the other one getting blowed or you could do your favourite Double anal. Also I think having the third example I used mixed in somewhere would be good, like before or after they fuck Laura as a way show what these two huge dicks are about to do to her or what they have done to her.

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Man can't wait to see that render and the other ones too, a lot of sexy ideas were presented.

Okay that's a good way to do it and should allow players to see what they want and miss what they don't. I'll definitely be playing mutliple playthroughs.

 

[Icarus Media]

0.1. Release when?

 

[CoffeeCurse]

0.1. Release when?

September/October? I make no promises though. I have limited time. Script and dialogue is done, environments done, lighting rigs done, coding is half done, animations (working on my skills), and characters are wrapping up. The biggest part to finish is just cooking all the renders.

If peeps are willing to support me (information coming in a future thread update) then I could put more time into development and take less work hours. But I doubt that'll hapoen, so I'm moving as fast as I can.

 

[Thebigbadwolf89]

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September/October? I make no promises though. I have limited time. Script and dialogue is done, environments done, lighting rigs done, coding is half done, animations (working on my skills), and characters are wrapping up. The biggest part to finish is just cooking all the renders.

If peeps are willing to support me (information coming in a future thread update) then I could put more time into development and take less work hours. But I doubt that'll hapoen, so I'm moving as fast as I can.

Keep up the good work dev, I'm so excited for this game, Can't wait for you to open up a discord and support you!

 

[CoffeeCurse]

Keep up the good work dev, I'm so excited for this game, Can't wait for you to open up a discord and support you!

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*A single tear rolls down my face* THANK YOU!!! So glad to hear peeps are excited!! News on Discord and Support coming in the next week or two!! You guys are da best!!

 

[CoffeeCurse]

The Carmen/Kate/Jessica sharing scene sounds great and glad to be able to give you new ideas on how to do things.

An attribute theft scene that isn't the obvious shrinking and growing of character dicks, which makes me think of that Taylor/Laura/Kate scene you have storyboarded, it's going to be so hot. I tried to think of a different type of theft so this is what I came up with. You sarcastically mention that Kate would have her own fantasy element and when I came up with the scene of two Lauras for Amelia and Taylor you said that Laura might gain the ability of copying herself, so I used those two things to come up with my scene. You have horny a Kate finally ready to claim Laura but before she does, she decides to start to absorbing Laura's energy which weakens her and amplifies her own power that she uses to duplicate herself so she can ravage a weaken and vulnerable Laura to teach her who she belongs to now. Then you can do different scenes with two Kates like having Laura blow one and the other one decides to push Laura forward so she Deepthroat the other Kate then they switch with the other one getting blowed or you could do your favourite Double anal. Also I think having the third example I used mixed in somewhere would be good, like before or after they fuck Laura as a way show what these two huge dicks are about to do to her or what they have done to her.

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Man can't wait to see that render and the other ones too, a lot of sexy ideas were presented.

Okay that's a good way to do it and should allow players to see what they want and miss what they don't. I'll definitely be playing mutliple playthroughs.

Fuck yes Blue!! That is pure gold!! *Get's excited by the excitement around the excitement!!!* Those are all hot as hell and perfect! I am so so happy to hear people are digging and vibing with the idea of the "fantasy" element within the game!! It opens up so many sexy opportunities and scenarios we get to play with in the game--such as the ones you just described! And even though that remark about Kate getting her own "powers" was sarcastic... it may very well be true which means Laura and Kate are both going to be equipped with "abilities" in a unique way that they can use against eachother or with eachother! The possibilities are endless!

All of us are going to have to sit down and figure out how far down the rabbit hole we want to go with the NTR in the game with all this juicy brainstorming. Something I'll defintely open up to like community voting as I want to make sure the game being built is something supporters can help shape.

I absolutely agree with the third reference. Part of my confidence in 3D and writing so far is I think I'll be able to capture more subtle things like this reference... references! The "in between" moments in sex... the nuance... like if this was Kate in the example she would absolutely be savoring every moment to showcase and proudly put her cock on display to remind whoever is underneath just how powerless they are against it!

And yes! The renders should be something everyone likes! And it will showcase sex finally here as an example of things to come in the renders. And woo! Alls the playthroughs!

 

[CoffeeCurse]

Hey dev will you include an in game walk through and a menu to switch fetishes off and on?

Great question!!

Walk Through

I'm sure you have also played games and sometimes go immediately looking for a walkthrough mod because as cool as "making choices" is... having your playthrough and many hours ruined because you are missing a few points here or because you didn't make the right choice there is always a pain in the ass! Sometimes it's nice to know you are going into the right direction!

I have a unique take on how to do this! It's WIP but I like it!

With my game, every "option/choice that will make a difference in some way or change a character's stat" will have an icon next to it that will be unique for each player/stat.

And anytime you make any choice that alters anything, you will see a prompt/image appear on your screen letting you know what it affected! The image in the prompt will be a reference to what is changing...

So random example: Let's say you make a choice that makes your sister Amelia more submissive. Once you click it, a prompt will show up on your screen in the middle with an image saying something akin to: "Amelia has become more submissive." and it would have a picture of her in like cute/soft lingerie in a feminine posture.

Now this is assuming people want that. If people don't and prefer it to be blind, I may just make it a mod and tag it on to every release!

Fetish Switch

I haven't made a choice on this yet. It's extra coding I'd have to do, and making an interactive menu is sometimes challenging cause screen language in Ren'Py is annoying lol! What stuff would you trying to turn off for reference? (No hate/shame, purely just getting your perspective.)

 

[BlueCrossX]

Fuck yes Blue!! That is pure gold!! *Get's excited by the excitement around the excitement!!!* Those are all hot as hell and perfect! I am so so happy to hear people are digging and vibing with the idea of the "fantasy" element within the game!! It opens up so many sexy opportunities and scenarios we get to play with in the game--such as the ones you just described! And even though that remark about Kate getting her own "powers" was sarcastic... it may very well be true which means Laura and Kate are both going to be equipped with "abilities" in a unique way that they can use against eachother or with eachother! The possibilities are endless!

All of us are going to have to sit down and figure out how far down the rabbit hole we want to go with the NTR in the game with all this juicy brainstorming. Something I'll defintely open up to like community voting as I want to make sure the game being built is something supporters can help shape.

I absolutely agree with the third reference. Part of my confidence in 3D and writing so far is I think I'll be able to capture more subtle things like this reference... references! The "in between" moments in sex... the nuance... like if this was Kate in the example she would absolutely be savoring every moment to showcase and proudly put her cock on display to remind whoever is underneath just how powerless they are against it!

And yes! The renders should be something everyone likes! And it will showcase sex finally here as an example of things to come in the renders. And woo! Alls the playthroughs!

I said this before but the fantasy element is one of the biggest pros to me cause of all the different things you could do with it when it comes to domination and submission, sharing, NTR, and it even adds a different element to the story. Can't wait to witness those endless possibilities and the naughty things Laura and Kate have planned with those powers.

I usually worry if developers give their communities to much say on their game but you seem to have a vision that you want to execute for your game and just want an interactive community. Also the love that Kate has got probably means that people are willing to go pretty far down that rabbit hole.

So random example: Let's say you make a choice that makes your sister Amelia more submissive. Once you click it, a prompt will show up on your screen in the middle with an image saying something akin to: "Amelia has become more submissive." and it would have a picture of her in like cute/soft lingerie in a feminine posture.

While I would love to see Amelia in some cute lingerie I think a picture popping up for a choice might be a little to much depending if this picture pops up everytime you make Amelia more submissive. It might be better to have a picture pop up if you were doing like a Trophy or achievement system where if you accomplish something in the story a picture would pop, for example if you made multiple choices that made Amelia more submissive that she agreed to something that she wouldn't have before then a picture would pop up showing that you've hit a milestone on this character. I think having the icon next to the choice is a good decision and signifies what the choice entails.

Now this is assuming people want that. If people don't and prefer it to be blind, I may just make it a mod and tag it on to every release!

You could have a toggle in options or menu that turns it on and off.

Edit: Also I'm not saying to do a trophy or achievement system, just saying that I feel a picture popping up would make more sense for that.

 

[junkgkj]

Yesssss!!! That's exactly on brand for Iris! She's a princess and has had everything handed to her in life so she has yet to totally figure out how to navigate life yet. And with Laura, both care deeply for eachother and she trusts her as any sister would. Which in their romance route, it'll be a bit more passionate. But for the NTR sisters, like you said.... she'll be like a deer in headlights. She won't know what to do, maybe she'll think this is supposed to happen--this is how "I'm meant to be treated". And the Kate and Sabrina will prey on that innocence I imagine molding her into quite the slut!

I can only imagine how fun Iris' first time with Sabrina is going to be, like when they go all the way... Sabrina is going to savor it like a lion!!

And no one is ever dragging on! Never worry! Again, this is fun and helps me discover new narratives and ways to build scenes! Keep em coming! The more descriptive the better (but only if you want to)!

That's what I like to hear.
I think my trinity from before is basically locked in now. (Amelia, twins, NTR SIsters)
Everything around them is just too good.

And it's something that keeps slipping my mind that Laura, as our MC, can be molded into a more "bottom" position too.
These latest discussions reminded me.
Is Laura a CnB only futa, or is she one that has all the parts? Will she get fucked regardless? Can't remember if it was discussed.
I think she'd look lovely with a cock between her boobs as she licks the tip, eyes looking up at the receiver.

 

[junkgkj]

All of us are going to have to sit down and figure out how far down the rabbit hole we want to go with the NTR in the game with all this juicy brainstorming.

I'll dig to bedrock if you let me.
There are many concepts, directions, and degrees with the three NTR's, sharing, partner swapping, etc. and we've only touched on a couple.

 

[MorallyLucky]

Though I would defintely want to make that sex scene with Kate and Amelia something the player sees! It's too juicy to miss!

Does that mean the player will get to independently watch certain scenes without the MC getting to as well? Personally, I'm a big fan of suspense scenes like that so that's definitely something I'm looking forward to if that is the case.

 

[junkgkj]

Does that mean the player will get to independently watch certain scenes without the MC getting to as well? Personally, I'm a big fan of suspense scenes like that so that's definitely something I'm looking forward to if that is the case.

This is kind of what I was going about with my example.
But instead of us seeing what Laura is imagining what is going on, we, the viewers, instead cut to what is actually happening. Then it can return to Laura and continue as if she had her own imagination of what could be happening.
She doesn't know exactly what is happening like we do, but she knows something is happening based on what Amelia told her before and her reaction to going out on the date and saying she would likely not be home that night.
Laura knows Kate is big, rough, and has plenty of stamina and splooge to spare. And now she knows that Amelia enjoys that, so Laura's imagination will run wild imagining what they'd be doing.

I think it's a great story telling method that gives us two different erotics points in one go, the actual scene and the feeling emanating from the "victim," and it's a method I like to use myself.

Especially since Amelia can come back the next day and let Laura in on the "juicy details" and we get Laura's inner feeling based on that too. And so we get another erotic point out of it.
One scenario gives us three big erotic points. That's efficiency!
(I like doing this type of stuff with my own projects.)

 

[CoffeeCurse]

I said this before but the fantasy element is one of the biggest pros to me cause of all the different things you could do with it when it comes to domination and submission, sharing, NTR, and it even adds a different element to the story. Can't wait to witness those endless possibilities and the naughty things Laura and Kate have planned with those powers.

I usually worry if developers give their communities to much say on their game but you seem to have a vision that you want to execute for your game and just want an interactive community. Also the love that Kate has got probably means that people are willing to go pretty far down that rabbit hole.


While I would love to see Amelia in some cute lingerie I think a picture popping up for a choice might be a little to much depending if this picture pops up everytime you make Amelia more submissive. It might be better to have a picture pop up if you were doing like a Trophy or achievement system where if you accomplish something in the story a picture would pop, for example if you made multiple choices that made Amelia more submissive that she agreed to something that she wouldn't have before then a picture would put showing that you've hit a milestone on this character. I think having the icon next to the choice is a good decision and signifies what the choice entails.


You could have a toggle in options or menu that turns it on and off.

Edit: Also I'm not saying to do a trophy or achievement system, just saying that I feel a picture popping up would make more sense for that.

Exactly! The freedom it gives the game is limitless and so much fun to play around with! It's like a naughty sandbox filled with all sorts of sexy scenarios and situations! There's nothing wrong with vanilla (realistic fiction) games, but it's just not for me... I love fantasy! Especially when it's involved in sex!

And I can totally understand that worry, but like you said, I'm pretty confident I know how to balance this all. I like being able to interact with everyone because it broadens my horizons, it gives me new and awesome opinions on things, and the feedback keeps me excited to keep developing each day! And I HOPE so! Can't wait to showcase her, I'm working my butt off working on her, Sabrina, and Jessica as we speak!

And hmmmmmm... I'll have to consider all that. I'll defintely test it out later on closer to release and offer examples for everyone to let me know what they would prefer. Could also just have the image pop up in the bottom of the screen briefly every time!

That's what I like to hear.
I think my trinity from before is basically locked in now. (Amelia, twins, NTR SIsters)
Everything around them is just too good.

And it's something that keeps slipping my mind that Laura, as our MC, can be molded into a more "bottom" position too.
These latest discussions reminded me.
Is Laura a CnB only futa, or is she one that has all the parts? Will she get fucked regardless? Can't remember if it was discussed.
I think she'd look lovely with a cock between her boobs as she licks the tip, eyes looking up at the receiver.

The holy trinity!!!! It was discussed, but yeah, Laura has a dick and balls. She does not have a pussy--it's intentional! And yes, she will absolutely get fucked, futas still enjoy receiving...

And oh yes she would! She's got gorgeous lips and beautiful eyes, I can't wait to build those scenes!

I'll dig to bedrock if you let me.
There are many concepts, directions, and degrees with the three NTR's, sharing, partner swapping, etc. and we've only touched on a couple.

YESSS!! DIIIIIIIIG!! So many! We will need a Discord section just for the ideas and concepts in the future!

Does that mean the player will get to independently watch certain scenes without the MC getting to as well? Personally, I'm a big fan of suspense scenes like that so that's definitely something I'm looking forward to if that is the case.

Yes!! I believe the term is known as "Dramatic Irony", where the "audience" is aware of something that a character in the story is not. I really like to have the "world" of the game to be the main character sometimes... which means I can take a scene away from Laura for a time, and then bring it to another group of characters and show what's going on with them independently. Which like you said, allows suspense to be added. So maybe Laura runs into her Mum Nicole in the kitchen and she is acting strange. Laura exits the scene, and we the audience stay, and are shown that Brooke has been underneath the counter choking and holding her breath on Nicole's dick the entire time!

This is kind of what I was going about with my example.
But instead of us seeing what Laura is imagining what is going on, we, the viewers, instead cut to what is actually happening. Then it can return to Laura and continue as if she had her own imagination of what could be happening.
She doesn't know exactly what is happening like we do, but she knows something is happening based on what Amelia told her before and her reaction to going out on the date and saying she would likely not be home that night.
Laura knows Kate is big, rough, and has plenty of stamina and splooge to spare. And now she knows that Amelia enjoys that, so Laura's imagination will run wild imagining what they'd be doing.

I think it's a great story telling method that gives us two different erotics points in one go, the actual scene and the feeling emanating from the "victim," and it's a method I like to use myself.

Especially since Amelia can come back the next day and let Laura in on the "juicy details" and we get Laura's inner feeling based on that too. And so we get another erotic point out of it.
One scenario gives us three big erotic points. That's efficiency!
(I like doing this type of stuff with my own projects.)

Exactly!! Just like I said above, you're spot on Junk!! And as if I could, in good conscience, NOT create the scene where Amelia sneaks away to be with Kate and gets absolutely bred by her! IT WILL HAPPEN!

And yep! You're describing telling a story from multiple perspectives, if you can hit all of them in a sequence, it envelopes the audience and makes it incredibly believable and easier to connect with!

 

[junkgkj]

And as if I could, in good conscience, NOT create the scene where Amelia sneaks away to be with Kate and gets absolutely bred by her! IT WILL HAPPEN!

Kate: How many babies do you want?
Amelia: Yes.

 

[Thebigbadwolf89]

Great question!!

Walk Through

I'm sure you have also played games and sometimes go immediately looking for a walkthrough mod because as cool as "making choices" is... having your playthrough and many hours ruined because you are missing a few points here or because you didn't make the right choice there is always a pain in the ass! Sometimes it's nice to know you are going into the right direction!

I have a unique take on how to do this! It's WIP but I like it!

With my game, every "option/choice that will make a difference in some way or change a character's stat" will have an icon next to it that will be unique for each player/stat.

And anytime you make any choice that alters anything, you will see a prompt/image appear on your screen letting you know what it affected! The image in the prompt will be a reference to what is changing...

So random example: Let's say you make a choice that makes your sister Amelia more submissive. Once you click it, a prompt will show up on your screen in the middle with an image saying something akin to: "Amelia has become more submissive." and it would have a picture of her in like cute/soft lingerie in a feminine posture.

Now this is assuming people want that. If people don't and prefer it to be blind, I may just make it a mod and tag it on to every release!

Fetish Switch

I haven't made a choice on this yet. It's extra coding I'd have to do, and making an interactive menu is sometimes challenging cause screen language in Ren'Py is annoying lol! What stuff would you trying to turn off for reference? (No hate/shame, purely just getting your perspective.)

I was just asking cause I saw a menu in preferences in another game were a player could turn on and off fetishes and the game would show alt scenes, but its fine if you do things the normal way.

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[junkgkj]

There is also the potential for a replay gallery.
I am pretty versed in Ren'py so I can assist in a few things.
(Am making my own game, in fact, though a long ways away.)

 

[Greenbean33]

I was curious since I haven't seen it mentioned as often, can we get more info on the attribute theft stuff? That was one of the main aspects that appealed to me initially since it's so rare. I understand NTR choices are a big focus, and I think the two compliment each other well when used right, but is the attribute theft more of a side thing, or is it something that'll be featured prominently throughout the game?

 

[CoffeeCurse]

I was curious since I haven't seen it mentioned as often, can we get more info on the attribute theft stuff? That was one of the main aspects that appealed to me initially since it's so rare. I understand NTR choices are a big focus, and I think the two compliment each other well when used right, but is the attribute theft more of a side thing, or is it something that'll be featured prominently throughout the game?

Wooo!! Attribute Theft! It is so rare isn't it?!

So put simply, YES, Attribute Theft will be featured prominently throughout the game!! It's one of my favorite fetishes and I love experimenting with it in both subtle and wild ways! It's not like the "goal" of the main story, but it will take place in almost every chapter, or at least most of them!

And it's something we all get to have fun with! If it's between two main characters, it will usually be temporary (because it's not feasible to have variations across every single scene). Buuuuuttt, I'm hoping to also have moments that Attribute Theft will be permanent between main characters. This will likely be pre-decided by a community poll for things like supporters to interact with!

Is there any particular Attribute Theft you are into?

 

[Courtiepie]

I have two questions if that's okay, regarding characters. I know you take a lot of work making your characters/models and it shows! I feel like some of them are going to become my favorite of all time!

First. You've talked alot about the fantasy element of this game. I'm curious, does that mean there will be fantasy characters? Like fantasy skin tones, ears, and body types? Like an elf or something? Or is that like medieval fantasy and is that not really what the game is like?

Second. So far you have such a nice variety of body types! You have thicc, you have petite, you have slim thicc, and you also have buff babes! But there is a body type I like personally that I don't see often in VNs and that's a thicc woman who borders on being a little fat, but it's tasteful. Are you going to have any characters like that?

Here is an example from a creator I'm sure we're all familiar with. I'm using it as an example because I can't create anything myself and just want to show what I mean by the body type I'm referring to.

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[Greenbean33]

Wooo!! Attribute Theft! It is so rare isn't it?!

So put simply, YES, Attribute Theft will be featured prominently throughout the game!! It's one of my favorite fetishes and I love experimenting with it in both subtle and wild ways! It's not like the "goal" of the main story, but it will take place in almost every chapter, or at least most of them!

And it's something we all get to have fun with! If it's between two main characters, it will usually be temporary (because it's not feasible to have variations across every single scene). Buuuuuttt, I'm hoping to also have moments that Attribute Theft will be permanent between main characters. This will likely be pre-decided by a community poll for things like supporters to interact with!

Is there any particular Attribute Theft you are into?

For me? Honestly any. The concept I like most though is the idea of giving attributes to someone that lacks them, essentially turning the tables by making the other party now better in some way than the player character or another. Or someone seen as inferior just taking them for herself.

But lol honestly I feel any type of attribute theft is usually gonna be in the right direction based on how you've talked about it.